Was the Maytag Neptune the best FL washer ever built in terms of performance? I've only ever used a Neptune enough times to count on, but the more I study the design today the more I like what I'm seeing.
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iiijohnnymaciii
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I’ve always liked the look of those machines. Unfortunately I never had the chance to get one new. I do see them for sale on the used market once in a while though. What makes them so good performance wise?
tomdawg
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I had a Maytag Neptune - now an LG 4370
I work on them as well, as far as they are built. Yes they are pretty solid machines. Performance wise, I think Neptune’s had balancing act figured out pretty well. I could leave things on top of the washer and know it won’t fall to the ground. LG isn’t so bad, but more vibration.
Whirlpool platform, during the Neptune years. I felt had better performance in cleaning power and electronics- though long cycle times were a price to pay.
If Neptune’s were still around today like LG’s consistency of making their washers. I’m pretty sure Neptune’s would be the best out there.
Though, I really like my LG. Super fast and cleans really well.
I had a Maytag Neptune - now an LG 4370
I work on them as well, as far as they are built. Yes they are pretty solid machines. Performance wise, I think Neptune’s had balancing act figured out pretty well. I could leave things on top of the washer and know it won’t fall to the ground. LG isn’t so bad, but more vibration.
Whirlpool platform, during the Neptune years. I felt had better performance in cleaning power and electronics- though long cycle times were a price to pay.
If Neptune’s were still around today like LG’s consistency of making their washers. I’m pretty sure Neptune’s would be the best out there.
Though, I really like my LG. Super fast and cleans really well.
The Neptune was a design that should not have been dropped, but tweaked as did Speed Queen with their Amana design.
I've seen neptunes before,
but haven't used one unfortunately. Fortunately, I can watch videos of them on youtube.
but haven't used one unfortunately. Fortunately, I can watch videos of them on youtube.
Speed queen would have to be rated top as modern rivals go....
but I am partial to Neptunes....
but I am partial to Neptunes....
Speed Queen Front Load
Is hands down the best FLW for home use ever in North America, it is like comparing a KDS-17 KA DW to all other US DWs in the 70s.
SQ is based completely on a real commercial machine, there are no differences what so ever, SQ engineers tell they can easily last 25,000 loads, and we have had 3 that we know of that have gone over 45,000 and they have been retired to some of our customers and are still in everyday use, none of these three have had bearings replaced.
I guess the runner-up would be the Maytag Neptunes as they were even built and used in commercial settings .
The original German built WP Duets were also pretty rugged in the bearing and spider areas but fell in electronics area and cheap plastic fasteners everywhere.
I don't have enough experiences with LG to make a judgment, I do know that SS and FD just can not be considered great FL machines for overall reliability and repairability.
John L.
Is hands down the best FLW for home use ever in North America, it is like comparing a KDS-17 KA DW to all other US DWs in the 70s.
SQ is based completely on a real commercial machine, there are no differences what so ever, SQ engineers tell they can easily last 25,000 loads, and we have had 3 that we know of that have gone over 45,000 and they have been retired to some of our customers and are still in everyday use, none of these three have had bearings replaced.
I guess the runner-up would be the Maytag Neptunes as they were even built and used in commercial settings .
The original German built WP Duets were also pretty rugged in the bearing and spider areas but fell in electronics area and cheap plastic fasteners everywhere.
I don't have enough experiences with LG to make a judgment, I do know that SS and FD just can not be considered great FL machines for overall reliability and repairability.
John L.
The only upgrades I would make to the Neptune FL system would be 1) Twice as many rotations between reversing directions during tumbling/agitation, 2) Larger capacity, and 3) An on-board heater.
After seeing the video of a SQ FL full cycle in a recent thread, I was disappointed with its multiple attempts at balancing, but I don't think there's a modern FL out there that can beat a Neptune in that regard.
After seeing the video of a SQ FL full cycle in a recent thread, I was disappointed with its multiple attempts at balancing, but I don't think there's a modern FL out there that can beat a Neptune in that regard.
The MAH6500 and MAH7500 Neptune models have heaters.
SQ FL Washers
Do Not have any balancing issues,
I do not know what you are seeing Ralph, My SQ FL washer has never failed to balance and spin a load, which cannot be said about A Neptune FL washer, balancing issues were quite common on NT FL washers because they can tie loads into a ball and then can not balance and spin them.
John L.
Do Not have any balancing issues,
I do not know what you are seeing Ralph, My SQ FL washer has never failed to balance and spin a load, which cannot be said about A Neptune FL washer, balancing issues were quite common on NT FL washers because they can tie loads into a ball and then can not balance and spin them.
John L.
John, please re-read my post. I did not say that SQ FL machines fail to spin. I have no basis for making such a statement. I said that based on the video (see link), they appear to have similar trouble balancing to that of other modern FL machines.
Furthermore, my Neptune has never failed to spin and it has never spent a prolonged period attempting to balance prior to spin (unlike its Affinity predecessor -- and yes, before you go there, I do understand that a SQ does not equal a Frigidaire).
But go ahead, have fun. Knock yourself out shooting holes into others' posts.
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?85056_9~1
Furthermore, my Neptune has never failed to spin and it has never spent a prolonged period attempting to balance prior to spin (unlike its Affinity predecessor -- and yes, before you go there, I do understand that a SQ does not equal a Frigidaire).
But go ahead, have fun. Knock yourself out shooting holes into others' posts.
https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?85056_9~1
Ran my
MAH3300 for 14 years loved it ! Super cleaner, always spun but never had a window, its only fault.
Ran my SQ's 17 years and 9 years , in the rental in 17 years only had to replace a boot.
I hear the new SQ balance system is the balls!! Im dying to try it !
MAH3300 for 14 years loved it ! Super cleaner, always spun but never had a window, its only fault.
Ran my SQ's 17 years and 9 years , in the rental in 17 years only had to replace a boot.
I hear the new SQ balance system is the balls!! Im dying to try it !
My vote goes to
Dexter. I've seen them at the laundromat along with their dryers. They sound like clothes fighting in the water when washing and rinsing.
Dexter. I've seen them at the laundromat along with their dryers. They sound like clothes fighting in the water when washing and rinsing.
It would be interesting to talk to the original Neptune design team. I've always wondered why they didn't include a window in the door...was it purely a cost-saving measure or were there other considerations?
One of the notable things about the Neptune is the very loud fluid-filled balancing ring. It gives the impression that there's far more water splashing about inside than there really is. With no window, the secret is safe.
One of the notable things about the Neptune is the very loud fluid-filled balancing ring. It gives the impression that there's far more water splashing about inside than there really is. With no window, the secret is safe.
mark_wpduet
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don't you guys
wish the Neptune's had window? I always loved the way they look and heard they washed/rinsed well...but it would KILL me not being able to see the action
wish the Neptune's had window? I always loved the way they look and heard they washed/rinsed well...but it would KILL me not being able to see the action
I still love the original Westinghouse models. Thats all I ever seen here. We had a local laundromat called "Snow white Westinghouse laundry". Had women in white uniforms filling a bank of bolt downs with a drain chute, Put into an extractor and then in these big Cissal dryers. Then packaged up for the customer.
There's no window because of the harmonic vibration dampening assembly inside the door.
when has a blank door ever stopped us.....
take a zip tool to a door....*Presto*...windowed door!
take a zip tool to a door....*Presto*...windowed door!
I absolutely wish
the Neptunes had windows.
the Neptunes had windows.
I wish they still made the Neptunes. I can see John L is defending Speed Queen, but if you ask me they seem to shake more than the Neptunes.
Speed Queen FL Washer Balancing Sequence
Hi Ralph, I watched the video of the roughly 10 YO 1st generation SQ Washer we are talking about.
As is often is the case you do not know what you are talking about, the SQ was not trying to find its sweet spot and balance the load but rather it was going through a timed sequence where it spins up to wring out water as it cycles the drain pump to reduce suds locking of the pump.
This machine does the exact same sequence ever time it is run whether it has a small or huge load or even nothing in the machine, there is no agony watching a SQ FL washer and wondering whether it will balance or not unlike a Neptune with its three balance switches that all have to be happy in order for the machine to ever go into full spin speed before the controls time out and just quit trying to spin.
John L.
Hi Ralph, I watched the video of the roughly 10 YO 1st generation SQ Washer we are talking about.
As is often is the case you do not know what you are talking about, the SQ was not trying to find its sweet spot and balance the load but rather it was going through a timed sequence where it spins up to wring out water as it cycles the drain pump to reduce suds locking of the pump.
This machine does the exact same sequence ever time it is run whether it has a small or huge load or even nothing in the machine, there is no agony watching a SQ FL washer and wondering whether it will balance or not unlike a Neptune with its three balance switches that all have to be happy in order for the machine to ever go into full spin speed before the controls time out and just quit trying to spin.
John L.
you make it sound like Neptunes are extinct....when in fact their plentiful all over Craigslist, FB Marketplace, OfferUp, etc...and can be had for a song....
I even found two brand new sets from model homes never hooked up....
I was originally searching for Fridgemores in order to place a counter top across them....but Neptunes turned up in abundance, probably why I ended up with 6 sets, a SuperStack and a few spares for parts....
in fact this club naked my collection as "the Fleet"...catch the wave!..
I have taken apart a SQ FLer with JohnL....built like a tank, easiest machine to ever service...and none of this plastic crap, there are true shock absorbers, not plastic dampers....SQ is the last machine you will ever have to buy!
I even found two brand new sets from model homes never hooked up....
I was originally searching for Fridgemores in order to place a counter top across them....but Neptunes turned up in abundance, probably why I ended up with 6 sets, a SuperStack and a few spares for parts....
in fact this club naked my collection as "the Fleet"...catch the wave!..
I have taken apart a SQ FLer with JohnL....built like a tank, easiest machine to ever service...and none of this plastic crap, there are true shock absorbers, not plastic dampers....SQ is the last machine you will ever have to buy!
@john L: I have to ask, what happens if that first gen Speed Queen was to be severally of balance? Would the machine catch it? Re-try and balance? Or quite spinning and move on? I agree with all the rest you said.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes will get rarer as time goes on.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes will get rarer as time goes on.
@yogitunes: They don't make them new anymore. Neptunes w
Yes, we ALL know this! Are you that out of touch?
Yes, we ALL know this! Are you that out of touch?
from Yogitunes:
you want me to answer THAT one?....lol
you want me to answer THAT one?....lol
Agreed Dan. Yours is the best advice in this whole thread and I intend to follow it. The stress level this week is off the charts, the negative cosmic influences are at their worst, and I don't need to manufacture more of it for myself or others. My new Lemon Haze cartridge will be put to good use shortly.
freshnclean
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