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Thanks to Iran and Syria who have decided to turn the Lebanon into their battlefield with Israel------the price of oil is headed north fast!!!!!
Jumped from $78.00 to over $80.00 a barrel overnight!

That translates into over $170 MILLION dollars A DAY in extra oil income to Iran alone! Sickening isn't it.........

I topped off at $2.93 a gal. last night----same station today $3.19 a gal.!

Heeeeer we go---------
 
Petrol should be left...

BLAST! Every day it happens...where are we going, better where is that price going to arrive...

Since our Fathers have been discovering petrol features and its infintives utilities... we have arriving nowadays that we can't do without it.

Not only the awful amount of cars running on earth check, but how many electric central run thanks to petrol??? Although we have nuclear energy on the world, to avoid nuclear score troubles often electricity are produced by burning petrol...none matter with "global warming" (=effetto serra)... and CO, CO2 emissions...

And what about the plastics? The most importat chemical bases of the common thermoplastics come from petrol (poliethilene, poliestere, ecc)... is very recent a plastic made of corn... yes... "la pannocchia" as we call corn fruits... but who knows it?

We should let the petrol loose... many other system there are to avoid petrol, the problem is that it's common to very uses and you should to find as well solutions.

Solar energy is one, then hydrogen potentiality, and many other hidden solutions such water falls or geothermic power... the nature is plenty of power surce...that stay there only to be discovered by us only if we made the effort to look after them... We are not aware of them so we run and fight for petrol...and how many people dead...and how many people will die more...WHAT HORRIBLE THING IS THE WAR!!!
 
Bundle up in the north and get some fans in the south.

Our standard of living and climate control just went down, down, down.

Maybe this time (as a repeat of the early 70's) *energy crisis* conservation and innovation will stick.

GO SOLAR!
 
Great....wow Jeff I hadn't realized it had shot up that much in the midwest. It's been pretty steadily in the 3 20s/30s here for some months, I suppose now we're going to start delving deeper into the 3s.
 
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Scary. Further proof of the negative effects of our dependence on the Middle East. We have many perfectly good oil reserves in US states (such as Wyoming and Alaska) that will support us for quite a while (I heard 700 years), but those tree-f***ers step in and talk about it threating the wildlife, etc. Apparently they haven't come to terms with the fact that drilling technology has come a long way and is not as disruptive to the environment as it was in the early-1900s. That being said, we certainly don't need another Exxon Valdez, but I don't think drilling *under normal circumstances* will be as harmful as many are led to believe.

Perhaps when gas prices reach $7/gallon someone will FINALLY wake up.
 
Last time I filled up it was $2.99 here for Regular (local Chevron). Premium was $3.09 at the same station. No doubt it has risen...
 
Sheep for the shearing

I'm so happy for the Bush and Cheney families, what with all their oil holdings, they must be seeing their amassed net worth rise through the roof. It's a good thing that they're ethical people and wouldn't think of, say, waging irresponsible military campaigns just for the good of their and their cronies pocket books...

Good young men and women are dying daily while these people become wealthier by the day. This country ( at least the red part of it) is fast asleep.
 
Gas has never dipped below $3.00/gallon in my area of California in the past few months. Luckily I no longer have a long commute (about 2 miles each way, now) so the high prices are not affecting my budget too much. However it has affected my discretionary driving decisions. I factor in the cost of gas when it comes to shopping for bargains - if the cost of getting there and back exceeds the price savings, I'll look for a bargain closer to home.
 
In April, sales of hybrid gas/electric cars FELL 40% while the sales figures for the Cadillac Escalade ROSE 120%. Gas prices were as high during that same month as they were during the hurricane damaged Gulf Coast production and refining slowdown. That should tell you something about the public's awareness of oil and it's implications around the world. I'm all for becoming less dependent on foreign sources of oil but I'm also in favor of spending more in gas/fuel taxes that would go toward the development of alternative sources of energy.

Google 'oil company profits' and see where your money goes. That should open a few eyes but it hasn't seemed to make any difference - you are probably right, Austin, it will take $7 a gallon at the pump for people to wake up. In the meantime, keep those Hummers rolling off the line!

If you haven't seen the movie Syrianna, go rent it. It's fascinating!
 
Wake up and smell the petrol people!!

This isn't a red state or blue state issue; neither is it our favourite whipping boys George Bush and Dick Cheney issue. This is a situation that has been going on for decades, regardless of party affiliation. It's all about the taxes.

Oil company profits lining the pockets of the wealthy.....honey puleeze! If you participate in a pension plan 401K, or mutual fund, chances are that there is an oil company in the investment lineup. These profits line the pockets of the everyday man as well as the rich and famous.

Now, back to the taxes....the government makes a windfall out of a gallon of gasoline. As the price goes up, so does the amount of tax that the government collects. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is a huge government cash cow (along with cigarettes). Why do you think that there is no incentive or demand to automotive makers for 40 mpg cars or those that use alternative fuels? Those efforts are quashed before they even get off the drawing board.

Treehuggers aside, why do you think that there is no aggressive drilling in our own vast areas of oil reserves? Even though we, as a nation, have become increasingly dependent on foreign oil, the government has become even more dependent on the taxes it generates. If we reduce or eliminate oil consumption, or find limitless supplies of cheap domestic oil, the taxes collected by the government are reduced; creating a potential economic mess (given our huge spending habits).

I will not be rushing in a panic to top off my tank. This will only "fuel" an artificial situation. I will continue to conserve and fill the tank with a few gallons as needed.

I feel that the temporary repeal of gasoline taxes during these price escalations may shock the government into reducing their frivilous spending and find tax revenues elsewhere (hopefully not from Joe Taxpayer).

Just my two cents (untaxed) -

Venus
 
As an aside....

I think the time is ripe for a Boston Tea Party-type tax revolt! This taxation without representation has got to stop!!
Our government has been "profiting" from we the taxpayers way too long!
 
Speaking of revolt and taxation without representation...

Look at what our NEW House leader is up to! Obviously, he didn't get the memo from the "Director of Lessons Learned" in the west wing. I'm sure more than just me questions how that man earned his $114,000 annual salary now...

From today in the NYT:

July 15, 2006
New House Majority Leader Keeps Old Ties to Lobbyists
By MIKE McINTIRE

Representative John A. Boehner won the job of House majority leader amid a post-Abramoff clamor for an overhaul of lobbying and ethics rules. But nearly six months later, the changes are still tied up in Congress.

And far from trying to put the brakes on lobbyists and the money they channel into Republican coffers, Mr. Boehner, who has portrayed his ties to Washington lobbyists as something to be proud of, has stepped on the gas.

He has been holding fund-raisers at lobbyists’ offices, flying to political events on corporate planes and staying at a golf resort with a business group that has a direct stake in issues before Congress.

Tapping a rich vein of longstanding relationships with lobbyists and their corporate clients, Mr. Boehner, an Ohio Republican, has raised campaign contributions at a rate of about $10,000 a day since February, surpassing the pace set by former Representative Tom DeLay after he became majority leader in 2002, a review of federal filings shows.

His fund-raising pace is roughly twice what it was before he became majority leader in February; in April his two federal committees took in $334,500 from political action committees, a monthly take that Mr. DeLay did not match for more than two years after the elections in 2002.

Mr. Boehner’s biggest donors include the political action committees of lobbying firms, drug and cigarette makers, banks, health insurers, oil companies and military contractors. Seven American Indian tribes with casinos have contributed $32,000.

And despite an intensified spotlight on Congressional trip taking, Mr. Boehner flew to a golf resort in Boca Raton, Fla., in March for a convention of commodities traders, who have contributed more than $100,000 to his campaigns and are lobbying against a proposed federal tax on futures transactions.

During the trip, Mr. Boehner assured his hosts that Congress would most likely not approve a tax they opposed.

His leadership committee, the Freedom Project, which in recent months has enlisted the use of corporate planes from Federal Express, Aflac and the Florida Power and Light Company, later reimbursed the Chicago Mercantile Exchange for the cost of the Boca Raton trip.

In addition, his campaign committees recently hired two people from lobbying groups for the financial and insurance industries, reflecting a continued revolving-door relationship between leadership offices on Capitol Hill and interest groups with stakes in legislation.

One of the two recently hired, Amy Hobart, worked for Mr. Boehner before becoming political affairs manager at the Bond Market Association. The group has contributed $50,000 to Mr. Boehner and lobbied for legislation he sponsored that would loosen investment restrictions on pension fund managers.

None of these activities is illegal or violates ethics rules, and they are not unique to Mr. Boehner.

Aides to Mr. Boehner have said he is sincere about clamping down on abuses that lead to illegal or unethical behavior by lawmakers and interest groups.

Kevin Madden, his communications director, said Mr. Boehner’s approach was reflected in House proposals that focused on greater disclosure of information rather than on limits to what members of Congress and lobbyists can do. Mr. Boehner, Mr. Madden said, has seen no need to change his own practices in dealing with lobbyists, taking trips or raising money since becoming majority leader, believing that transparency is the key to restoring public trust.

Mr. Madden said it was not surprising that Mr. Boehner would attract more campaign contributions in his new leadership post, which comes with the expectation that he will also help raise money for Republican colleagues. The influx of money — more than $1.1 million from February to May, mostly from political action committees and lobbyists — was “a sign of increased effort and increased success,” he said.

Mr. Boehner’s credentials as a reformer rest largely on his opposition to earmarks, the provisions inserted into spending bills by members of Congress to pay for favored projects. Earmarks have figured in both recent big scandals to hit Congress — one centered on the lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the other on former Representative Randy Cunningham, a California Republican who was forced to resign his seat after pleading guilty to taking bribes.

But to some longtime Washington observers, Mr. Boehner’s dealings with interest groups are affirmation that despite the change in leadership and a political climate that appeared conducive to changes in longstanding practices in dealing with lobbyists, the standard currency of influence and access on Capitol Hill — campaign contributions, junkets and jobs — remains largely unchanged.

“The Republican Party needed somebody to say they were a reform candidate, so he said it,” said L. Sandy Maisel, a professor of government and director of the Goldfarb Center for Public Affairs and Civic Engagement at Colby College. “But in reality, he’s carrying on in the tradition not just of DeLay, but past Democratic and Republican leaders alike.”

Mr. Boehner’s calendar for June and July included several fund-raisers by lobbyists and political action committees, including the Wine and Spirits Wholesalers of America Inc. and the Independent Insurance Agents and Brokers of America.

A review of Mr. Boehner’s recent contributors finds a “who’s who” of Washington special interests, many with issues before Congress. The Indian tribes have fought to keep gambling legislation from affecting their casinos. Investment companies that have contributed tens of thousands of dollars have a stake in legislation to update the pension system.

The warm relationship between Mr. Boehner and Washington insiders began with the Republican takeover of the House in 1994. Gary Andres, for example, is a lobbyist who got to know Mr. Boehner in the 1990’s, and turned to him years later to sponsor a bill, sought by an association of well drillers, that authorized $50 million in federal money to develop private drinking water wells in rural areas.

Mr. Andres said he worked with Mr. Boehner to make the bill “something that he could agree with philosophically.”

Mr. Boehner got it approved as an amendment to the 2002 omnibus farm bill.

“I’ve known him since he came to Congress,” Mr. Andres said of Mr. Boehner. “I consider him a friend. I’ve worked with him on a number of things.”

More than 10 of Mr. Boehner’s former staff members have gone to work for lobbying firms, and his former chief of staff, Joyce Gates, is married to a lobbyist, Bruce Gates. Mrs. Gates and her husband, whose firm has contributed more than $100,000 to Mr. Boehner and represents dozens of blue chip companies, have helped produce popular “warehouse parties” for Mr. Boehner at Republican conventions since 1996.

Mr. Boehner’s views on what is permissible were outlined in a 37-page manifesto that he sent to House Republicans when he was campaigning for majority leader in January.

In the part dealing with “institutional ethics and reform,” Mr. Boehner made a virtue of being friendly with lobbyists, saying that “absent our personal, longstanding relationships, there is no way for us to tell” which ones might be corrupt.

A favorite tool of lobbyists is travel invitations to members of Congress, which has emerged as a contentious issue this year. Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, Republican of Illinois, has suggested banning privately paid travel, but Mr. Boehner has opposed that idea.

Mr. Boehner is a frequent traveler, having accepted 39 trips since 2000, compared to 2 trips for Mr. Hastert and 18 for Mr. DeLay, according to House travel records compiled by PoliticalMoneyLine, which tracks campaign and lobbying activities. Mr. Madden said such trips were valuable because they allowed “members to find out about the issues that they’re voting on.”

In March, Mr. Boehner kept to his tradition of attending the Futures Industry Association convention at the Boca Raton Resort and Club. He and his wife, Deborah, have flown to at least six of the annual events, usually at the expense of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which has spent more than $25,000 on the trips.

This year, because Mr. Boehner combined the trip with fund-raising events for Florida Republicans, he used his leadership committee to reimburse the exchange for his travel costs, according to campaign finance filings.

Mr. Boehner took part in the “Washington Outlook” panel discussion on the last day of the four-day conference.

According to Bloomberg News, which covered the event, Mr. Boehner addressed a legislative issue of concern to the association, the proposed tax on futures transaction, offering assurances that Congress would most likely not enact it.
 
As the price goes up, so does the amount of tax that the gov

In many states, yes. (Among them, California, Georgia, Illinois, Michigan, and others...link)

Florida, Pennsylvania, and Texas, among others, do not have a % sales tax on gasoline. They charge the same amount per gallon for $2 gas as for $20 gas.

Vote with your ballots, or vote with your feet!

 
I say, nuke the environmentalist, build more refineries and start drilling more offshore and in the frozen wasteland of ANWR. Jeez, we have all these resources and reserves here, there is no reason for us to be dependent on the Middle East except to support their terristic governments by buying oil from them.
 
But Peter why should we be so dependent on oil in the first place? I did start the thread about electric cars but even without them everyone can take steps. Live closer to work, maybe even within walking distance or with public transit so you don't have to have a car at all. If you have an oil furnace, replace it with an electric heat pump and electric heat. Mow the lawn with an electric lawn mower and if the lawn is too big for one, let some of it return to nature. If a lot of people did these steps maybe we would not need more refineries after all, although the oil companies will be pretty unhappy.
 
Why? Because the market hasn't demanded affordable fuel alternatives. If everyone did take those steps, the market would change and we'd be OK. Or industry can force the change, making the alternatives the same price or less expensive than the usual oil dependent suspects would work. Since no one is doing either one quickly, then the oil dependency continues. As long as industry and consumers affect the change and NOT the government, I am all for "green alternatives".

I read on a couple websites that the USA gets about 50% of it's oil from the American continent, mostly from Canada and Mexico. Much of the rest comes from other areas outside the Middle East. A small percentage comes from the Middle East. So what happens in the ME should really affect us here, should it?
 

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