Big Bosch, Little Bosch.

[richukbristol]

Hi Guys thought you might like to see some pics of my recent finds. I picked the washer up several weeks ago and can't fault it. I wanted another modern machine to use so I wasn't over working the vintage stuff and I love it. I has decent water levels, washes,rines and spins great, no fannying around balancing when spinning just builds up the speed and gets on with it. The baby dishwasher I picked up last week from a second hand store and thought it would be abit of fun to play around with.It to washes great and is quick. You can fit a surprising amount in it.

 

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[ronhic]

Well done....

....what great bits of kit both of those are....

 

[newwave1]

Congrats Rick
I too own the wonder that is the WFF2000. Its by far my favourite machine in my collection. I've missed not using it over the cold snap. It was my daily driver in my old house in favour of a shitty hotpoint wt960 i bought before it<br
Can't fault the machine and agree with you on every point. It seems to do everything with ease<br
Happy washing<br
Darren

 

[richukbristol]

Hi Ronhic, Thanks very much I'm really pleased with both. At the moment I'm putting plates,bowls,galsses etc in the the baby bosch and all the big stuff, pans,baking sheets cassaroles etc in the big miele<br
Hi Darren I thought it was you who had one. Glad you like yours as well. It really is a great machine. I love the cascade fill down the glass when it's fill for the rinses and it's great at spinning, not wasting time just tumbling trying to blance a load.

 

[vacbear58]

I had the Bosch Washer too

In my last apartment, but left it behind as it was built in (in the bathroom) and it would be too much trouble to take it out. The Bosch DW was sold as the Bosch "Butler" origionally, it was around for years - a friend bought one in around 1992, and it lasted at least 14 years, could be still going in fact. They were highly rated by Which for years and had a surprisingly large capacity (6 place settings?) for the small size. It was this dishwasher that I was referring to in the thread a few weeks back about the Proline washer that just would not break down<br
You have been doing very well on your collection Richar<br
Al

 

[richukbristol]

Hi Al, I remember the thread now, I didn't know they had been around for so long, I thought the came out in the late 90's. I think mine is an older model judging by the facia and graphics. Did the early models look much different from mine or later models. I see Bosch have bought out a new design, would like to see one in person but they don't seem to make it in white which I would prefer<br
Rich

 

[foraloysius]

Rich

Congratulations on both Bosch machines. I think your little Bosch is a newer one. The first ones only had three programmes, the model with 5 cycles came much later on the market as a more expensive model. It was a bit more silent than the model with three programmes<br
Also the timer has grey graphics around it. The older models had red ones. Here's a picture I saved from a Bosch website in november 2004. Your dishwasher must be from after that<br

 

[favorit]

nice machines. In Italy that very compact DW serie is still on the market badged as Siemen<br
http://www.siemens-elettrodomestici.it/it/prodottischeda.aspx-productid-1410-brandid-87.ht<br
while Bosch has the new ActiveSmart serie with controls under the door :

http://www.bosch-elettrodomestici.it/it/popup/activewatersmart/activewatersmart.html

 

[aquarius1984]

Why do I suddenly have a craving for old photos and mini chocolate rolls

That dishwasher is a hoot especially as it took me more time to load a baking tin 3 plates 3 wine glasses and 6 items of cutlery than what loading a full size machine does LOL<br

 

[rolls_rapide]

My Grandfather had a Bosch-made dishwasher identical to that, but it was badged as Hotpoint. Bought around year 2001. It passed to a friend of mine, who then passed it onto her son<br
My friend now has a full-size Zanussi, but she still prefers the little Hotpoint/Bosch.

 

[matchboxpaul]

Me and Rob want a snazzy Bosch now too!

Hi Richard and everyone<br
I can tell you Richard, that myself and Rob were mighty impressed by your Bosch WFF! So much so that we are now dragging our ears along the ground listening out for a lead towards one of our own<br
A really smart looking machine, with superb simple and clean lines. Love the piano keys, although still havent got my head totally round the dials (could never figure out square door Bendix's either)
No worries on that point though - just makes me want one even more. Adds to the mystery<br
Ah well. The camera is going through a 'take a crap photo' phase, so the quality isnt that good, but here is a piccy from the weekend when we saw it and the compact dishwasher. You found that matching dryer yet Richard<br
Pau
p.s I did take a 5 minute video of your WFF Richard. Let me know if OK to upload to youtube<br<br

 

[richukbristol]

Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply, been really busy with work etc<br
Rob, Next time you come over I can do a slide show and get the cine films out lol.That's the whole fun of the little bosch, spending 30mins trying to get as much in as possible. lo<br
Paul, I think you would be really pleased if you got one. I think it's def one of the best modern machines of the time and please upload the video to youtube that would be great<br
Ric

 

[tomturbomatic]

Please forgive my ignorance,

How old is the Bosch WFF? They were sold over here, but some parts are NLA. John has one similar to that. He made it out of 2, I believe. Does this machine spin after each drain?

Does the dishwasher fill with cold or hot water? Which cycle do you use for a mixed load of dishes, 2 or 3? How long does the cycle take?

Thank you for sharing pictures of and information about these interesting appliances. I hope you enjoy them for a loooong time. Tom

 

[favorit]

Tom

These frontloaders are two series before the early "porn" XXX models (Maxxx, Axxxis, Nexxxt, Classixx, Exxcel ...).
So they are mid - late nineties. this is the last serie with mechanical timer, the following one has the same look but one dial less because of the PC board. These machine have a better built quality than current ones

As for the dishwasher in the link you can see the specifications of the last machine of this compact serie :

http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/our-products/dishwashers/compact-dishwasher/SKT5102GB.html

 

[favorit]

current serie

the model in the previous link is no more available. I ran into that link because bosch-home.co.uk forgot to upgrade the dishwasher home page.

These are current machines. They are a bit larger cause the controls now are no more on the side but under the door

http://www.bosch-home.co.uk/our-pro...pact-dishwasher/compact-dishwashers/list.html

 

[favorit]

see it washing with open door !

sorry i wash wrong, the washer is early-mid 90s

Give a glance to this vid, it's worth

Also the other one "what's goin'on inside"

 

[logixx]

Yes, that's our Bosch we had to use when the AEG packed in. The AEG took 150 min for the ECO cycle, which I used most of the time. The Bosch was just 50 minutes. We bought it back in the 90s, then stored it after several years of use because we bought a house (with a full-sized DW). After about six or seven years, we had to use the small Bosch again: I just hooked it up to water and electricity and it worked right away. Great little machine! And the new spray arm (without the angled jets) made it even better.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Pretty cool demo. Thanks for all the information! When it says cold water fill recommended, does that mean it cannot be filled with hot water? What about warm water? Would hot water damage the fill valve? Seems like it would shorten the cycle time.

 

[favorit]

Valves have no problems with water 140-150°F hot, whatever brand. I and my relatives who own a DW have always had hot fill cause with the gas tankless we save on electric bills.
Never have had any problem

In old machines cycle time was heavily shorthened. In my vintage miele G507 set @ 120°F the thermostat didn't stop the timer so a 2x prewash + wash + rinse + rinse + drying took just 30 mins. The same full cycle @ 140°F took 45 min (it had a 3000 W coil.

Current machines aren't so affected. My sister's miele cuts down only 15 mins on a 2 hour cycle

*Why Bosch siemens recommend cold fill*

Bosch/Siemens recommends cold fill to enhance drying.
While Miele, Bauknecht(Whirlpool) and Electrolux brands have a air heat exchanger to condensate steam, BSH machines use cold water in a flat tank that on the outer side of the tub.

This tank works also as a thermal shock safety device. It fills about five minutes before each drain to use the heat coming from the tub to preheat the water for the following fill. It does not fill before the last rinse drain.

It fills with cold water in the middle of the drying step to cool down the tub wall; moisture inside the tub condensates on the tub wall and will be pumped out

 

[bertrum]

Hi Rich,
A quality bosch washer youve got yourself, there are still alot of them out there.
I know the first thing I would do is give it a good service. The most common reason for these machines being writtrn off is the motor armature buring out.
Those motors new are f*****g expenbsive.
My advice is to check those brushes I imagine there getting low by now!
bertrum