iiijohnnymaciii
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Is there any dishwasher detergent that has bleach in it? A lot of my clear plastic Rubbermaid containers have spaghetti sauce stains. Same thing with my water bottle straws. Thanks!
Bleach Detergent?
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Cascade Institutional powder is one, which is now labeled as Cascade Fryer Boil Out.
dishwasher detergent with bleach
Cascade Fryer Boil Out
Procter & Gamble
offered a plastics de-staining agent that had lotsa, lotsa hydrogen peroxide for this very matter. It was packaged in a red and white tube, and it was sold for about 35 seconds a number of years back. It was good stuff. Probably why they pulled it.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
offered a plastics de-staining agent that had lotsa, lotsa hydrogen peroxide for this very matter. It was packaged in a red and white tube, and it was sold for about 35 seconds a number of years back. It was good stuff. Probably why they pulled it.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Unless things have changed
Finish gel and powder dw detergent are still chlorine based.
Usually but not always anything marked "institutional" is old school chlorine based dw detergent (with or without phosphates).
If you cannot find something in local shops, try any restaurant, institutional, commercial supply house. You may have to buy a rather huge tub of the stuff, but there you are then.
IIRC Ecolab sells "Finish" institutional dw detergent.
https://www.hpproducts.com/ItemDisp...rgent-15oz-200cs&Brand=V002258&ItemID=7255850
Finish gel and powder dw detergent are still chlorine based.
Usually but not always anything marked "institutional" is old school chlorine based dw detergent (with or without phosphates).
If you cannot find something in local shops, try any restaurant, institutional, commercial supply house. You may have to buy a rather huge tub of the stuff, but there you are then.
IIRC Ecolab sells "Finish" institutional dw detergent.
https://www.hpproducts.com/ItemDisp...rgent-15oz-200cs&Brand=V002258&ItemID=7255850
mark_wpduet
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An idea
that was recommended by someone else on this forum. When you're ready to run your machine with dirty dishes, put your detergent in the main detergent cup......close it and pour like a shot glass of liquid bleach on the dishwasher door, close it up, start it. I'm not sure what kind of regular dish machine detergent you use, but it shouldn't be affected by the bleach since it will be mostly rinsed away in the first water purge. I've been doing this for a LONG time now and it I use Finish powerball detergent, which has enzymes.....the machine smells santized and dishes are really clean. No tomato stains......I don't pre-rinse. OR....... You could be a bottle of chlorine-based detergent, pour a little in the prewash so that will give enough bleach action in the prewash to get those stains off.....but I like the regular bleach better. I think it keeps the inside of the dishwasher cleaner as well.
that was recommended by someone else on this forum. When you're ready to run your machine with dirty dishes, put your detergent in the main detergent cup......close it and pour like a shot glass of liquid bleach on the dishwasher door, close it up, start it. I'm not sure what kind of regular dish machine detergent you use, but it shouldn't be affected by the bleach since it will be mostly rinsed away in the first water purge. I've been doing this for a LONG time now and it I use Finish powerball detergent, which has enzymes.....the machine smells santized and dishes are really clean. No tomato stains......I don't pre-rinse. OR....... You could be a bottle of chlorine-based detergent, pour a little in the prewash so that will give enough bleach action in the prewash to get those stains off.....but I like the regular bleach better. I think it keeps the inside of the dishwasher cleaner as well.
iiijohnnymaciii
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Thanks Y'all!
I found some finish powder on Amazon! They don't sell it at my local stores. I hope they aren't phasing it out. I also might try the shot of bleach on the door in the meantime. I think putting it on the door will be key, because my Bosch does a purge before it starts the first fill. So are we talking about 1 ounce?
I found some finish powder on Amazon! They don't sell it at my local stores. I hope they aren't phasing it out. I also might try the shot of bleach on the door in the meantime. I think putting it on the door will be key, because my Bosch does a purge before it starts the first fill. So are we talking about 1 ounce?
I use Aldi liquid in the first cup of our DW, this detergent has liquid has bleach in it and is very reasonable in cost.
John L.
John L.
mark_wpduet
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doesn't matter
just eyeball it....just pour a little on the door. I'm guestimating about a shot glass worth. Although, I didn't realize your machine purged before it starts to fill. My Maytag doesn't do that. It just starts to fill for the prewash, then purges. You will smell the bleach while it's running. A little LBC goes a LONG way.
just eyeball it....just pour a little on the door. I'm guestimating about a shot glass worth. Although, I didn't realize your machine purged before it starts to fill. My Maytag doesn't do that. It just starts to fill for the prewash, then purges. You will smell the bleach while it's running. A little LBC goes a LONG way.
iheartmaytag
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It kind of defeats the "automatic" part of the automatic cycle, but you won't do if too often.
Wait until after the main wash drains and then open the door and pour in a shot glass (1oz) or so of LCB, then resume the cycle.
This way you get the bleaching action, you don't have to worry about it interfering with the detergent's enzymes and in the process you get some disinfection action from the bleach.
Another thing you can do is place stained plastic ware out in the sun on a sunny day. I sometimes set a few pieces on the picnic table if the wind isn't too bad, we're talking Kansas here. The UV rays will naturally bleach out the red stains.
Wait until after the main wash drains and then open the door and pour in a shot glass (1oz) or so of LCB, then resume the cycle.
This way you get the bleaching action, you don't have to worry about it interfering with the detergent's enzymes and in the process you get some disinfection action from the bleach.
Another thing you can do is place stained plastic ware out in the sun on a sunny day. I sometimes set a few pieces on the picnic table if the wind isn't too bad, we're talking Kansas here. The UV rays will naturally bleach out the red stains.
Fascinating idea
Mark and I heart!
Also, I use Finish powder. Per the label it has enzymes. When I got my Maytag DW a couple years ago, I used to use Cascade powder. It started etching the glasses. A friend’s Mom said use Finish - it’s easier on dishes AND gets them cleaner. She was right. It gets them perfectly clean and shiny. Then I remembered the installer said the same thing.
I don’t use pods. I have a water softener, so I presume the pods are a major overdose and would dull and etch the dishes. Even without a softener I’d be afraid of that. When I was growing up we filled the Kitchen Aid detergent cups all the way and in time the dishes were completely dulled and ruined. And they would have swirl marks on them too from the water flow. Using flatware to eat was like scratching fingernails on a chalkboard. So in my adult life I’ve always dosed just enough powder to get the dishes clean and no more. And my dishes have never gotten dull.
Mark and I heart!
Also, I use Finish powder. Per the label it has enzymes. When I got my Maytag DW a couple years ago, I used to use Cascade powder. It started etching the glasses. A friend’s Mom said use Finish - it’s easier on dishes AND gets them cleaner. She was right. It gets them perfectly clean and shiny. Then I remembered the installer said the same thing.
I don’t use pods. I have a water softener, so I presume the pods are a major overdose and would dull and etch the dishes. Even without a softener I’d be afraid of that. When I was growing up we filled the Kitchen Aid detergent cups all the way and in time the dishes were completely dulled and ruined. And they would have swirl marks on them too from the water flow. Using flatware to eat was like scratching fingernails on a chalkboard. So in my adult life I’ve always dosed just enough powder to get the dishes clean and no more. And my dishes have never gotten dull.
mark_wpduet
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Ya
Back a few years ago when they took phosphates out of DW detergent people were having a hard time with the new stuff, but Finish powerball seemed to get good reviews. I Love it. That's all I buy from Cosco (the big container) and I have moderately hard city water with no water softener. I can understand those that have a softener might not be able to use the tabs. Someone on this forum said a long time ago to pour a little bleach on the door before starting the load. The first time I did it you could tell when the machine had finished and you opened that door everything just smelled cleaned and disinfected. And with just a LITTLE BIT of bleach. Been doing it ever since. Once I had a sample of Finish Quantum. I didn't like it because it foamed WAY too much. Cleaned well, but foamed too much. I felt like it was way too hard on the dishwasher as you could hear it struggling through the foam.
Back a few years ago when they took phosphates out of DW detergent people were having a hard time with the new stuff, but Finish powerball seemed to get good reviews. I Love it. That's all I buy from Cosco (the big container) and I have moderately hard city water with no water softener. I can understand those that have a softener might not be able to use the tabs. Someone on this forum said a long time ago to pour a little bleach on the door before starting the load. The first time I did it you could tell when the machine had finished and you opened that door everything just smelled cleaned and disinfected. And with just a LITTLE BIT of bleach. Been doing it ever since. Once I had a sample of Finish Quantum. I didn't like it because it foamed WAY too much. Cleaned well, but foamed too much. I felt like it was way too hard on the dishwasher as you could hear it struggling through the foam.
Sanitizer tablets
Not sure if you can get any sanitiser tablets I buy them from a cleaning company and you put 2 on the door they dissolve in the prewash and the main wash uses the pod it works as I have no more tomato stains on any plastic ware its been a problem here for some time ever since the ingredients in the pods changed.
Austin
Not sure if you can get any sanitiser tablets I buy them from a cleaning company and you put 2 on the door they dissolve in the prewash and the main wash uses the pod it works as I have no more tomato stains on any plastic ware its been a problem here for some time ever since the ingredients in the pods changed.
Austin
jerrod6
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Regular Finish Powder
I have been using regular Finish Powder which I also bought from Amazon. For some years now this regular formula contains enzymes so the chlorine bleach has been removed. The enzymes actually clean better, but I don't know about how it will do with heavy doses of tomato stain. It will clean the stain for me if I wash it within two days, but set in stain- I don't know. Maybe try Finish Quantum which is stronger than the powder.
I have been using regular Finish Powder which I also bought from Amazon. For some years now this regular formula contains enzymes so the chlorine bleach has been removed. The enzymes actually clean better, but I don't know about how it will do with heavy doses of tomato stain. It will clean the stain for me if I wash it within two days, but set in stain- I don't know. Maybe try Finish Quantum which is stronger than the powder.
iiijohnnymaciii
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Thanks
Thanks for the update on finish powder. I have quantum right now. It removes food no problem, but plastic gets stained if washed wilth spaghetti dishes.
Thanks for the recommendation of the Aldi brand gel as a prewash.
What Powerball tabs do you use? Deep Cleen or Max In One?
Thanks for the update on finish powder. I have quantum right now. It removes food no problem, but plastic gets stained if washed wilth spaghetti dishes.
Thanks for the recommendation of the Aldi brand gel as a prewash.
What Powerball tabs do you use? Deep Cleen or Max In One?
pierreandreply4
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dishwasher soap
IIIJohnnyMacIII do not know if this will help you but found this on amazon https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Cascade-...&sprefix=casacade+dishwasher+,aps,142&sr=8-48
IIIJohnnyMacIII do not know if this will help you but found this on amazon https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Cascade-...&sprefix=casacade+dishwasher+,aps,142&sr=8-48
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Palmolove Eco has chlorine in it. My mother and I both use it in our KUDI23's
Just reminded me
Several people I work with commented that they prefer to wash their dishes by hand, and they always put a little splash of LCB in the dishpan to prevent salmonella, colds and flu from spreading through the house.
Sounds like a great idea.
But I never got around to asking if their clothes get bleached/ruined every time they splash water on themselves.
Several people I work with commented that they prefer to wash their dishes by hand, and they always put a little splash of LCB in the dishpan to prevent salmonella, colds and flu from spreading through the house.
Sounds like a great idea.
But I never got around to asking if their clothes get bleached/ruined every time they splash water on themselves.
AND why don’t I just ask others?
Do the modern dishwasher pacs dull dishes like the powder did in the day?
Does it make a difference if you have a water softener?
If it’s no longer an issue, I’d love to know because the pacs would be so much easier to use. But I just don’t feel like ruining my stuff experimenting.
So, what say you?
Do the modern dishwasher pacs dull dishes like the powder did in the day?
Does it make a difference if you have a water softener?
If it’s no longer an issue, I’d love to know because the pacs would be so much easier to use. But I just don’t feel like ruining my stuff experimenting.
So, what say you?
And yes, Mark
I tried Finish Quantum once and same thing — it foamed up, the D/W struggled with sudslock, and there was no spray action going on.
I tried Finish Quantum once and same thing — it foamed up, the D/W struggled with sudslock, and there was no spray action going on.
