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P&G has been selling off, and or shutting down brands for about ten years (give or take), not always because of performance.

Proctor and Gamble like nearly every other major company in USA or world has gone "lean", Sigma-Six or whatever the current slimming down corporate craze happens to be.

For P&G, Unilever, and the rest many of their household, personal care and other product lines are mature markets. Worse consumers have gotten wise to "new and improved" and all the other tricks of trade that are meant to entice them into buying this or that.

P&G's CEO has been under pressure since arrival to get stock price up, and show Wall Street he means business.

When you get down to it P&G has two top selling detergents; Tide and Gain. Together those brands have a vast and bewildering array of variants. The technology (and patents) that gave us Bold 2in1 were improved and voila! You have Tide with a Touch of Donwy, or Ariel with a Touch of Lenor. Thus P&G really didn't need to have Bold Plus hanging about. Less so after Tide Simply Clean and Fresh took up the "low price/budget" end of the spectrum. That product also meant ERA could go as well, and it did.

You may have noticed both P&G and Unilever are focusing on a handful of laundry product brands. However within each of those brands there is a wide range of products that are meant to address particular needs.

In Europe Bold seems to be P&G's detergent for "scent"; here we have Gain for that niche.

All this being said one has to wonder what truly is going on with Bold Plus: there seems to be tons of it out there on Amazon.com, eBay and elsewhere. It all cannot be old stock from several years ago.
http://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/37000275121
 
Here is something else

UPC/Bar Code beginning with 0037000 is usually a P&G product. Bold Ultra Plus began with same numbers:

http://www.upcitemdb.com/query?s=Bold detergent&type=2

No information is available for bar code shown on packet above; but it *is* registered in USA. http://www.upcitemdb.com/upc/037000511731

So again I say; if the bar code in part is one that is assigned or whatever to P&G it is very likely they are behind this mystery Bold "Tropical Orchard" detergent.

Remember those UPC/Bar codes are on crates, packaging and or other materials associated with items. Scanning or entering into various systems including check-out counter at shops provides a wealth of information. Bar codes are also used for inventory (to keep track of sales for instance).

Another thing:

Someone upthread mentioned there wouldn't be a powder detergent in Europe without nonionic surfactants. This is not apparently true.

The SDS for Bold "Professional" in Spring Fresh scent has an ingredient list almost identical to the product OP is investigating. All anionic surfactants without a mention of anything else in that category. That is of course unless P&G for some reason chose not to list, but is that even legal in EU?

[this post was last edited: 2/24/2018-08:13]

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So...

P&G emailed me back - again. They think this product is from 2007, which makes no sense, with a 2017 copyright date on the package.

I advised them as such. Let's see what happens.
 
@ Laundress

You mention that Era was discontinued. Yet, it's still showing up on P&G's website, and I see it for sale at just about every supermarket and big box retailer that I visit. Did this happen recently?
 
That screenshot of an MSDS is strange indeed.
I wonder why are anionic surfactants listed twice in a row but in different percentages ? Might be just a typo.
It`s also strange there is no further information about what hazardous anionic surfactants they refer to. (e.g. Sodium Dodecylbenzenesulfonate)
Or is it even possible that some nonionic surfactants are not considered hazardous so do not have to be listed in an MSDS ? I don`t know.

However current UK professional Bold 2 in 1 still has the nonionics listed as less than 5%

 
"They think this product is from 2007..."

As you said, the packaging says otherwise.

There must be a right bunch of numpties working at Procter & Gamble.
 
Unfortunately...

...I've heard nothing further from them. Such is life, no?

Until then, I will continue to enjoy my Bold, and will hopefully come across another oddball detergent or two (or three)....
 

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