Bosch/Siemens dishwasher with a detatchable power lead?

[aegokocarat]

Hello all,
Today I was in Cardiff and paid a visit to John Lewis (my typical haunt) because we need a new electric cooker and a freezer (both will be purchased next year)and I had a little nose at the dishwashers, one that caught my attention was a top of the range Bosch Logixx dishwasher, I opened the door and had a look at the racking layout and to my shock, I saw the power lead laying in the top basket! but it wasn't cut off or unwired as it had a clip in connector, similar to that of an old corded kettle. I thought I had lost my last shred of sanity. What is the purpose of the lead being detachable?
Tom

 

[logixx]

Mine was built in 2009 and has the that power cold as well. The dishwasher is rated 10, 13 or 16 amps and 50 or 60 Hertz. Using a separate power cord means BSH can ship the same unit anywhere in the world.

 

Alex

 

[aptone1]

In the states dishwashers don't come with cords but many of the newer models have the ability to support a cord that plugs in. By building code if the washer is installed without a cord it has to be done by an electrician since it ties into the house system. Builders here don't want to pay the electrician for another visit so they have a dedicated outlet put in before the house is finished. Then they get the cord that plugs in and they can finish the install. This option is of no use for replacement washers as I doubt anybody would call an electrician to twist some wires together. Perhaps you have similar regulations that drive the practice there.

 

[aegokocarat]

Ah! thanks for clearing that up
Tom

 

[nmassman44]

Well not so my Miele dishwasher came with the cord attached so its plug and play. I prefer it that way.

 

[logixx]

The power cord on BSH dishwashers is like the one you find on PCs. You just plug it in - no need to attach wires or anyting- Almost plug & play. Still, I was a little surprised about their system, too. Makes sense from an economical point of view, though.

 

[jerrod6]

For my parents 1971 KA it had no cord and it was wired directly from "something" to the DW.

For my Miele it comes with a cord and plugs into a socket that is behind the DW however this socked is on it's own circuit breaker.

However this socket was also used for my 197X Ka dishwasher that was in the house when I bought it. There were wires to connect underneath the DW but these wires ended up being plugged into the socket behind it.

I guess all in what was done at the time.

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

I think its a wonderful idea

It allows them at Bosch to transport the dishwasher around the world, and very little wastage, as if one country doesn't want it, they can ship to the next, and only need to replace the cord. not do lots of cutting, adjusting or anything like that, plus much easier to replace, and probably universal fit across the whole range.

Is it a green cord?
There Logixx washers are green cords, not sure if they are detachable though.

 

[aegokocarat]

Glenfield, the one I saw had a grey cord, yes I also think its a fantastic idea as a family coming in from the EU or AU,ect with one of these dw's can ask BSH to send them a UK cord for it, meaning less waste and so on.
Tom

 

[MrX]

It's because of multiple plug types in Europe.

It's a fairly sensible way of getting around the age-old problem in Europe of a few countries that don't use the de facto standard European plug and socket system known as CEE 7.

CEE 7/7 - Grounded 16amp plug
CEE 7/16 - Small flat version for low-power ungrounded appliances.

....

The UK, Ireland, Malta and Cyprus all use BS1363 which is a 13amp fused plug with rectangular pins.

Italy uses its own standard with 3 round pins in a straight line.
Switzerland has a slightly different version with the ground pin offset a bit.
Denmark has yet another version of the same.

Then you've got export markets that use 230V 50Hz European standard voltage too, but don't use the same plugs as most of Europe i.e. Australia, NZ, China, India, large parts of Latin America, etc etc.

Since they all use 230V 50Hz, and the only technical difference is the plug, it makes sense to just make the power cable detachable.

The Bosch / Siemens system uses a connector that seems to be derived from an IEC connector. When you plug it in, it snaps into place and cannot be removed without the use of a tool.

Appliance makers avoid having to localise things for each sub-market. Remember, that modern washers and dishwashers often have symbols or electronic displays that can be set to the correct language, so in general the machines are now pretty much 100% identical in each market.

Link below explains the German-derrived Schuko system of plugs/sockets that is the de facto standard in Europe and used by all but the handful of 'odd ball' countries

Schuko - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[MrX]

BS1363

This is the system used in the UK, Ireland, Malta, Cyprus, Hong Kong and a few other countries.

AC power plugs and sockets: British and related types - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[logixx]

FWIW

Here's the rating plate of my Made in Bavaria Siemens

 

[glenfieldmathk1]

Logixx

I'm sure my Neff is similar too.

AEGOKO - Tom - I agree its a great idea, if it works like that.