California Electricity Dilemma

[rp2813]

Pchips, I used the "hide" option when the nonsense and doubling down from this source got my blood boiling one time too many -- and I was only reading as opposed to engaging (which is always an exercise in futility, as you and many others are well aware).  I could feel the off-the-charts level of  frustration in your posts, and suggest freeing yourself from the insanity like I did.  You won't regret it.

 

[qsd-dan]

I personally find the thread enjoyable. Always end up learning something in these informational war battles.

 

[adam-aussie-vac]

I for one don’t,

I tend to speed scroll through the information wars that happened on here, not because I want to stick to my own opinion and be living flesh of an echo chamber, mainly because I can’t be bothered doing my research at 1 am in the morning and I so i’m deciding to sleep and to wait for more coherent responses That actually seems reasonable, And ones that don’t seem like a rant About another persons post,

 

[good-shepherd]

France seems to be doing fine generating 80% of their energy from nukes for decades and selling power to neighboring countries.

 

[combo52]

Germany, a much larger country that uses and produces far more power is completely phasing out nuclear energy for example.

It’s also not very popular in Japan anymore. I doubt they’ll build any more nuclear power plants.

I’m not terribly against nuclear power it’s just the most expensive means of generating electricity that we’ve ever come up with, and we haven’t even dealt with the disposal cost.

And as long as they can’t even cover insurance to cover damage from an accident, it doesn’t seem like something we should be using.

Also, when you consider the amount of terrorist in the world, all they have to do is blow up one plant or crash an airplane into it it hundreds of thousands if not millions of people could be affected.

I have a cousin that works in the power industry, and he worked with 3 mile island up in Pennsylvania.

And one of the big worries that they talk about is where all the nuclear waste is stored in pools of water very close to the Susquehanna River. It’s only covered by a concrete lid. They worry about it airplane crashing into it or a bomb hitting it and it would go into the Susquehanna River which feeds into the Chesapeake Bay. Theres 8000 miles of shoreline on the Chesapeake Bay that could be affected millions of people live in this region.

It’s just an unnecessary risk, if it was cost-effective, I’d probably take my chances but it’s certainly needs way more government investment then solar does or even windfarms.

John

 

[vacerator]

Re; Germany, CH

Southern Genmany has access to Alpen hydro power. In the Canton of Helvetica-CH (Switzerland),the SBB rail system is 90% hydro generated power. By 2030, 100%!!
Nante De Drance in the southwest Valais canton, Amsteg south of Zurich, and Ritom west of there are 3 of the largest hydro plants.

 

[lowefficiency]

>> Germany, a much larger country that uses and produces far more power is
>> completely phasing out nuclear energy for example.

Germany is in a tough spot. I believe they announced that the nuclear plant closures have been postponed, due to the energy crisis resulting from the natural gas interruptions.

 

[DADoES]

 
Sabine yesterday is timely to some of this discussion.

 

[robbinsandmyers]

" At least 20 coal-fired power plants nationwide are being resurrected or extended past their closing dates to ensure Germany has enough energy to get through the winter. " With old Vlad being a dick it looks like Germany's best option now is one it hates.

 

[vacerator]

Re Germany, nuclear

Yes, and the Schwarzepumpe power plant still thrives on! It burns brown Lignite coal.
New Mexico is openining another nuclear waste underground expansion site.

 

[mark_wpduet]

and another Volcano eruption is happening. There goes a lot of hard work

 

[robbinsandmyers]

Just heard on the radio today both electric providers here in the state will raise their rates again another 50% as of Jan 1st. It translates to at least an additional $80.00 in peoples bills at the least they said. In this day and age where the public has been forced to conserve energy like never before with Energy Star appliances, LED lighting, etc, etc, etc it seems the less power we use the higher our bill gets over time. Then, months after a rate hike they post record profits. This is nothing less than legal extortion and politicians do ZERO about this gouging.

 

[qsd-dan]

This is nothing less than legal extortion and politicians do ZERO about this gouging.

 

Politicians are fronts for corporations. We live in a corporatocracy, not a republic/democracy.

 

[maytag85]

Welp, I might have to put my soon to be Maytag DG407 into service since they are raising electric rates though those rate hikes sound like it’s up in Northern California. This is why I will probably end up moving within the next couple of years, sad to see what’s happening to the state or rather home I grew up in. Almost feels like I am being quote on quote “evicted” from my home state since the state legislature and people who keep on voting for these idiots keep on falling for false and misleading information from the media and from people who don’t know any better and fall for so called “studies” that the media put out there and from certain people on YouTube who put bogus information out there as well.

 

[lowefficiency]

What would your costs per kWh be after the hike?

 

[sudsmaster]

California Electricity Dilemma, Part 2

I have created a second thread on this subject, titled "California Electricity Dilemma, Part 2".

 

Please post additional comments there.

 

Thanks!