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I'm thinking of installing a central vac in my home (about 1300 sq. ft.) and I really don't have a clue what to look for. I have a mix of carpets (mostly berber) and bare floors. Any suggetions - brands? Also are there advantages/disadvantages to air driven power foots as opposed to electric?
Thanks for your help!
 
I can't speak for any particular brand as to which is better but I'd probably buy one from Sears just because if there's any problem with it you know where to find them and they are good at making things right. Still in all there are plenty of stand alone "central vac" stores no doubt even in Kamloops but if I were to buy from one of them I think it would be one that had been there for many years. We must have the only "newer" house around that doesn't have one but fortunately our layout of the furnace room would make it a cinch to install one myself without having to lay too much piping. I could probably get away with 2 outlets on each of the two floors. So why haven't I installed one you ask? I always figured it was more of a hassle to grapple with a 25-30 ft hose, taking it out, putting it away, than it is to just grab an upright out of the closet and plug it in, clean, and put it away. Can't speak for air powered nozzles either, never used one, but with all the dog hair here I'd stick with an electric nozzle.
 
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Good point about the hose Petek. That is the main reason why I've held off on this purchase. Most people that have them claim it's not a problem but it seems to me that 30' of hose probably weighs as much as a modern vacuum. I suppose the big advantage is that the noise, dust and disposal of debris is all contained - in my case that would be the in the furnace room downstairs. I also agree that an electric nozzle would probably be more powerful but never having had an air driven one, I can't say for sure. I'm also leaning toward Sears because I've had Sears vacs in the past and they seem to be decent quality for the money.
 
and what's wrong with a long hose?

IMHO-

TWO advantages to central vacs.

1) Back end shoots to the out-of-doors; Totally clean- No dust recirculation. The dust bin/foreign object trap gets opened and cleaned out very infrequently.

2) LESS noise in living space - you can vac as the genetic mutations (---er offspring, that is) are asleep.

Of cousrse the "dust pan" accessory is way-cool too.
Sweep your ceramic floors with a regular broom, go over to the "hole" press a lever, the vacuum starts and it sucks down the pile of dirt as you sweep it in. WOOOOHOOO.
 
Sears

I don't think you will find a central vac at Sears. They carried them years ago, but not now. Try an AirVac. They are reasonable and good performers. Tim
 
I did a lot of investigating on central vac about 6 years ago. We have a medium sized ranch with a finished full basement and 1 car attached garage. We had a guy do an estimate. We looked at three brands all bagless cyclonic models, Vac-u-Flo, Aerus (Electrolux USA) and Hayden. For our house he recomended 4 inlets, One on each end of the main floor, on for the basement family room and laundry room and one in the garage. Vac-u-Flo had the air turbine carpet nozzle, It worked pretty good on the carpet we had which is berber and low pile. We could trade up to an electric if we wanted to. Hayden and Aerus come with electric nozzles. IF you go with the electric power nozzel you will have to choose either electrified ports or you will need a wall socket within 3 to 4 feet of the inlet to plug the power nozzle cord into. All had pretty much the same size dust bins that empty twice a year all exhaust to the outside. they are noisey so in a garage or basment away from living area is best. the cost was $1000. We opted not to get it yet but bought a Lux canister with power nozzle and a Dyson DC07. Friends have central and say it is the best vacuum they have ever had. My wife thought our house was not large enough to warrant the expense and cutting into the walls.
 
They're great!

As a central vac owner, vacuum collector, and as someone who worked in the Central Vac industry for three years, I'd like to offer my opinion...

Working at a shop, where the central vac portion was the main part of the business, I have been able to really get a pretty good (not extremely biased) opinion on different central vac brands. Granted, some changes may have occurred over the last three years (it's been three years since I've been there--but am still in the vacuum cleaner business).

Where I worked, we sold Beam Central Vacs (cleaning systems as they called them). We also had samples of, say, 6 or so examples of "the competition" on the floor in order to help sell the Beam (again, the competition may have changed in the past three years).

In my honest opinion, out of many of the other brands on the market, I felt that Beam was the best choice--hands down (I still feel that way~my mother is getting a Beam installed on Dec. 12). I really don't like selling things I don't personally believe in, I don't think it's ethically right... ((Take for example, Hoover's first few stabs at the V2 Windtunnel... I wouldn't dare sell them, I knew they'd be back for service)).

Anyway, Beam has a one piece tank construction, the dirt cup is made out of lexan (lighter than metal) so when you add pounds of dirt it makes it easier to empty (lighter to carry). With a beam, you can put a garbage bag in the dirt bin, as a liner--and not worry about it getting sucked up into the machine, blocking off the suction and burning out the motor--then when you empty it, just replace the liner. The warranty at the time was lifetime on everything except the attachments and the carbon brushes in the motor--I do believe that has changed. They are made in Webster City, IA--we're all currently hot to trot over "Made in the USA"... They don't need to be exhausted to the outside. The filter is a Permanent, self-cleaning filter. I could go on...

As far as the hose hook-up goes: Personally, I have the low-voltage inlets, and I make a second connection when I use a powerhead. It's very easy to do, and less expensive to install. The "direct connect" inlets need to be wired by an electrician (at least where I live), and wired into the house's circuitry. Also, (I think they've been improved over the years) the pins on the end of a "direct connect" hose (or the inlet tiself) may need to be replaced if they become loose and start to arc--and that can come from not pulling the hose straight out of the inlet, but "wiggling" it loose, and loosening the pins.

As far as costs go--you really won't have any--unless you beat your vacuum regularly or wear your attachments down from too much use. Our powerhead has 9 years under its belt, ans is still going strong, with just a belt and bulb here and there.

Regardless of what brand is chosen, a central vac is a great thing to have, period. If you use it to do all of your dusting, the dust is removed from the living area (because it's sucked into the machine either in the basement or garage) opposed to pushing it around with a dust rag. And it adds value to a home, just as central air or a sprinkler system would. It also can create the illusion that one's house is cleaner. :)

I mostly use my central vac for dusting, cleaning out the cars, vacuuming the basment and vacuuming the garage. I'm a stubborn Hoover Convertible sort-of guy, when it comes to vacuuming carpets. But, I do switch things up every so often, and pull the central vac out. It is very easy to use, quiet (all you hear is the powerhead), and powerful!

Hope this helps **stepping off of soapbox**

Fred
 
Stay away from air-driven

Oops, forgot to add this part:

(again, in my opinion)

An elecrtic powerhead is going to clean carpets better than an air-driven powerhead, period. Air turbines use a good portion of the suction to run them--there's only a fair amount left with which to actually clean. Also, the width of the dirt channel on an air driven brush is a fraction of the size of a dirt channel on an electric powerhead (meaning it could clog easier). Invest in electric, your carpet's will be cleaner in the longrun.

Fred
 
CentraLux for sure

Greetings:
I have a CentraLux in our home. Installed three yrs. ago.
It's wonderful! ! Our home is approx 1500 sq ft. with the layout, I had two outlets installed. The Lux has a 35' hose, I installed a hose cover on it, makes it much easier to move about.
My dad built a new house approx 7 yrs ago, intstalled a BEAM system...not bad. However, after he checked out my CentraLux, he said there was no comparison between the two.
He now has a CentraLux in his home. In our family, we have four users of the CentraLux.
IMHO...the BEST central vacuum one can buy.
Lux has the best power nozzle and the other attachments, although AERUS, still the quality we knew with Electrolux.
I bought my CentraLux on Ebay..best deal, my local Lux dealer intstalled it for me in one day.
Our house is on a slab, so the pipe work went in overhead..not a big deal at all...would indeed recommend central...noise...smell..in the garage..empty twice a year.
I also think that the filters w/ the Lux are the better choice. The "self-cleaning" Beam...well, a cloth bag..much like the Lux XXX, has a weight on it, when the vac is on, it gets sucked up, when suction is off, the filter drops, in theory, its supposed to knock off the dust???
My opnion only, not meant to insult or hurt anyone.
Sorry for the long post..

Al :D
 
Well there ya go, two diveregent opinion. I agree it probably helps on the resale. Other than our house I don't think any have been built here in 20 years that don't have a central vac or have the plumbing already installed so you can fit your own. 35 ft of hose is too much, I get annoyed wrapping up 25 feet of wiring to plug in a vacuum without a winder. Maybe someone should come up with a "hose retract" central vac.
 
the hose on a central vac is a light weight crushproof hose. some companies still push the sire reinforced hoses, but they are heavy and tend to wear out quickly. Electric powernozzles are the way to go also, look for models that use poermanent belts. Also, I recommend direct connect inlet valves, they are much easier to use.

Sears in Canada is still selling central vacs made by Eureka, they quit selling them in the US by the late 80s.

The central vacuum that I have is the Riccar RPU-C10, their most powerfull. It is made by CycloVac in Canada. I also went with their top of the line attachment set, direct connect inlets, and 2 Vacpan inlets. I swear by my central vac, I know its the best vacuum I have ever used. A good central vac will outclean all portable vacuums, and last longer too. And I have over 120 other portable vacuums that I have compared this system to, none have come close.
 
This is very good information and thanks to everyone for their ideas. I will definately go with the motorized powerhead. What you've said about the the clogging and suction-robbing potential confirmed what I had previously suspected about air-turbine powerheads. In Canada, Sears do sell central vacs under the Kenmore name. They also carry Electrolux. We've also gotta Beam dealer. Hoover's available at Costco & Home Depot. Most cost around $600-800 Cdn. Decisions....decisions!
 

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