58limited
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Anyone familiar with this model? Is it a rare model? The asking price is $350
Chambers "Estate" stove?
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I don't know much about it, but looks like you can do a lot of cooking with her.
dogboy44
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gee I wonder
How much the Ebay Tappan guy in NYC would ask for this?
I think this is a very rare model.
How much the Ebay Tappan guy in NYC would ask for this?
I think this is a very rare model.
Looks like it weighs about a million lbs or so.....
laundromat
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Heavy as shit!!!!
This particular model IS a rare find. The Chambers Stoves are made of porcelain on CAST IRON!!!!The last one of these I moved weighed 650 pounds and was not as wide as this one. The asking price is very reasonable and there are places to get parts on line(antiquestoves.com) and,once restored,this range will cook up a storm!!!!! Their old slogan"Cooks with the gas turned off" was realy true. Once that oven reaches the set temperature,it maintains it. The best cookware to have with these is Guardian cast aluminum and it too has support folks on line that can help find or replaces parts like glass lids to the entire Guardian Ware set.Best wishes on this sweet gas range!!!
This particular model IS a rare find. The Chambers Stoves are made of porcelain on CAST IRON!!!!The last one of these I moved weighed 650 pounds and was not as wide as this one. The asking price is very reasonable and there are places to get parts on line(antiquestoves.com) and,once restored,this range will cook up a storm!!!!! Their old slogan"Cooks with the gas turned off" was realy true. Once that oven reaches the set temperature,it maintains it. The best cookware to have with these is Guardian cast aluminum and it too has support folks on line that can help find or replaces parts like glass lids to the entire Guardian Ware set.Best wishes on this sweet gas range!!!
laundromat
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aproximate age---
When I lived on South Patterson Park Ave.in Baltimore's "Butcher's Hill" which was originaly gorgious tall 3 and 4 story rowhomes built at the turn of the 19th century.The ones on East Lombard,East Baltimore,and East Pratt Streets were owned by the butchers who had busineses on what is now known as "Corn Beef Row"and would have everything blessed by the Rabies and sold to families that also lived and worked there.
i had friends who lived at Bath and Pratt in a huge 4 story home and had an old 48 inch gas Chambers like this one but shorter in length.It was bought and installed in 1948 from Rudolf's appliance and restored in 1999 along with the entire house. John and Pattie Hancock who I still keep in touch with bought the home for $27,000 in 1974.They sold it in 1982 for $108,000.The current owners paid cash and put an additional $500,000 into complete,original restoration of this gorgious mansion which incresed it's worth to over $2.5 million.Pattie and John read about its restoration and during an open house tour of Butcher's Hill, they visited it and saw that not only the house was 100% restored but the adjasent cariage house was also restored. Pattie cried in tears of joy because she lived to see the house restored the way it should have been and saw the Chambers stove she sweated over many times cooking up a storm for almost 30 people every week completely rebuilt and in full use.
When I lived on South Patterson Park Ave.in Baltimore's "Butcher's Hill" which was originaly gorgious tall 3 and 4 story rowhomes built at the turn of the 19th century.The ones on East Lombard,East Baltimore,and East Pratt Streets were owned by the butchers who had busineses on what is now known as "Corn Beef Row"and would have everything blessed by the Rabies and sold to families that also lived and worked there.
i had friends who lived at Bath and Pratt in a huge 4 story home and had an old 48 inch gas Chambers like this one but shorter in length.It was bought and installed in 1948 from Rudolf's appliance and restored in 1999 along with the entire house. John and Pattie Hancock who I still keep in touch with bought the home for $27,000 in 1974.They sold it in 1982 for $108,000.The current owners paid cash and put an additional $500,000 into complete,original restoration of this gorgious mansion which incresed it's worth to over $2.5 million.Pattie and John read about its restoration and during an open house tour of Butcher's Hill, they visited it and saw that not only the house was 100% restored but the adjasent cariage house was also restored. Pattie cried in tears of joy because she lived to see the house restored the way it should have been and saw the Chambers stove she sweated over many times cooking up a storm for almost 30 people every week completely rebuilt and in full use.
laundromat
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by the way---
Chambers was bought out way back around 1980 by Whirlpool Corporation and the "Daisy Burners" design and technology was past on to the high end KitchenAid line once they were owned by W/P. Around 1994,they did away with that great design and went to a more European style,sealed burner design. I now see a lot of that old Daisy Burner style in some of the current comercial brands like Capital and Blue Star. They just made sense with their center set of small perferations that would enable the users to bring a severe boil down to a mild simmer.That in itself was a great accomplishment regarding gas cooktops.One of the most crutial points in stovetop cooking is to have control over the heat.Most gas burneres were and are real difficult to control. Less so in electric.The only type of burners I,myself,have found to be anywhere near precise are the induction type and are currently way beyond my price range.But,if I had my druthers,I'd have two 30 inch induction cooktop sets.
Two of the other nicer feature these gems(Chambers)have are the counter height broiler which raises up and takes the meats down to a graet infrared type broiler that truely sears and broils the meat to perfection.The deep well has a 4 quart,removeable pot that rests inside and it's lid is insolated to maintane any temperature.
I have seen these in fire engine red,mint green,black,copper(real copper.not coppertone)silver,harvest gold,canary yellow,turquoise,baby blue and pink.My favorite one was the copper and I think it went on ebay for around $2500.
Chambers was bought out way back around 1980 by Whirlpool Corporation and the "Daisy Burners" design and technology was past on to the high end KitchenAid line once they were owned by W/P. Around 1994,they did away with that great design and went to a more European style,sealed burner design. I now see a lot of that old Daisy Burner style in some of the current comercial brands like Capital and Blue Star. They just made sense with their center set of small perferations that would enable the users to bring a severe boil down to a mild simmer.That in itself was a great accomplishment regarding gas cooktops.One of the most crutial points in stovetop cooking is to have control over the heat.Most gas burneres were and are real difficult to control. Less so in electric.The only type of burners I,myself,have found to be anywhere near precise are the induction type and are currently way beyond my price range.But,if I had my druthers,I'd have two 30 inch induction cooktop sets.
Two of the other nicer feature these gems(Chambers)have are the counter height broiler which raises up and takes the meats down to a graet infrared type broiler that truely sears and broils the meat to perfection.The deep well has a 4 quart,removeable pot that rests inside and it's lid is insolated to maintane any temperature.
I have seen these in fire engine red,mint green,black,copper(real copper.not coppertone)silver,harvest gold,canary yellow,turquoise,baby blue and pink.My favorite one was the copper and I think it went on ebay for around $2500.
laundromat
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Will you use gas or coal????-------
Some of the higher end models Chambers made(there were also other brands like Monarch that had a similar format)had the ability to use either gas,coal,wood or kerosean gas for fuel.A lot of these were owned and operated on farms and areas so out in the woods that(especialy during torential rain and unheard of blizards)the owners needed more flexibility in what type of fuel for heat distribution they could use in case the gas companies had a problem in getting there to refill their gas.So,with the abilty to use either wood or coal,the Chambers stoves were a real knockout and some folks liked using wood to heat up their foods.
There were also electric models with the same features of flexibilty. They,at that time as well as today,were not as popular and could have some serious issues in performance especialy during thunder storms and blizzards.
Some of the higher end models Chambers made(there were also other brands like Monarch that had a similar format)had the ability to use either gas,coal,wood or kerosean gas for fuel.A lot of these were owned and operated on farms and areas so out in the woods that(especialy during torential rain and unheard of blizards)the owners needed more flexibility in what type of fuel for heat distribution they could use in case the gas companies had a problem in getting there to refill their gas.So,with the abilty to use either wood or coal,the Chambers stoves were a real knockout and some folks liked using wood to heat up their foods.
There were also electric models with the same features of flexibilty. They,at that time as well as today,were not as popular and could have some serious issues in performance especialy during thunder storms and blizzards.
laundromat
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built ins
Chambers also made cooktops and wall ovens in the same style they made free standing ranges. The"cooks with the gas turned off"logo was on every built in Chambers gas wall oven and the counter height broilers were also a desired feature available on the built in cooktops as well as their well loved "daisy burners"
I think they also made a gas incinerator for the home.
Chambers also made cooktops and wall ovens in the same style they made free standing ranges. The"cooks with the gas turned off"logo was on every built in Chambers gas wall oven and the counter height broilers were also a desired feature available on the built in cooktops as well as their well loved "daisy burners"
I think they also made a gas incinerator for the home.
Go get it.
Just go get it. It is a rare Chambers at a fair price for an unrestored example. I am trying to get my hands on a smaller one myself.
Dave
Just go get it. It is a rare Chambers at a fair price for an unrestored example. I am trying to get my hands on a smaller one myself.
Dave
bethann
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Wow
That's one cool ass stove, but you sure would have to build your kitchen around it! Plus, brace your floor !
That's one cool ass stove, but you sure would have to build your kitchen around it! Plus, brace your floor !
I absolutely NEVER KNEW A 3-OVEN CONFIGURATION EXISTED. i FIGURED THE TWO OVEN WAS ABOUT AS WIDE AS THEY GOT. i'D get it!! somehow!!
58limited
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I think it is a two oven with storage. I left a message with the owner, trying to go see it this evening.
58limited
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I went to see this tonight. Here are several pics descriptions. What do you guys think? Its $350. It is 64" wide, not counting the griddle/broiler handle on the side and 27" deep, not counting the controls. It has 5 burners, one thermowell, and the griddle/broiler. The seller traded for the stove a few years ago. The previous owner used it at his hunting camp - under an open-sided covered patio (i.e. - exposed to humidity and temperature fluxes). The current owner had it under his carport. Hurricane Ike destroyed the carport, which fell on the stove and damaged the backsplash and canopy.
1st pic: The chrome handles all have rust but are rechromeable. Also, I think they are reproduced. Most still move but two are stuck. The emblems above each handle have a little corrosion but could probably be made presentable with some polishing. Porcelain is pretty good, a couple of chips but no worse than my O'Keefe. The black porcelin top will have to be reporcelained.
1st pic: The chrome handles all have rust but are rechromeable. Also, I think they are reproduced. Most still move but two are stuck. The emblems above each handle have a little corrosion but could probably be made presentable with some polishing. Porcelain is pretty good, a couple of chips but no worse than my O'Keefe. The black porcelin top will have to be reporcelained.
58limited
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Pic #2
all five burner grates have issues: cracks, rust, missing pieces. I'll have to replace all of them. The drip pans are rusted out too. Under the burners, the interior actually looks good, the spackled porcelin looks nice. The inside of the thermowell is good. The burners are good.
all five burner grates have issues: cracks, rust, missing pieces. I'll have to replace all of them. The drip pans are rusted out too. Under the burners, the interior actually looks good, the spackled porcelin looks nice. The inside of the thermowell is good. The burners are good.
launderess
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Not Three, But Two
Ovens.
IIRC, the third (or second door on other models)is for storage and or service/care access.
Ovens.
IIRC, the third (or second door on other models)is for storage and or service/care access.
58limited
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Pic #3
The inside panels on the two oven doors are swiss cheese - will have to be replaced. The rest of the oven's interiors are good - normal wear. I banged around the stove looking for rust through and these are the only places that I found any of note.
The inside panels on the two oven doors are swiss cheese - will have to be replaced. The rest of the oven's interiors are good - normal wear. I banged around the stove looking for rust through and these are the only places that I found any of note.
58limited
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Pic #4
The back - surface rust only.
The back - surface rust only.
58limited
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Pic #5
Canopy and top of stove. Griddle needs to be rechromed. The canopy: narrow strip and the backsplash are damaged. Due to size and rarity, I doubt I'll find a replacement. I''ll have to have an auto body guy I know fix these, then send them to be reporcelained.
The wider part of the canopy can be seen in the previous photo, it only has a couple of chips in the porcelain for damage.
Canopy and top of stove. Griddle needs to be rechromed. The canopy: narrow strip and the backsplash are damaged. Due to size and rarity, I doubt I'll find a replacement. I''ll have to have an auto body guy I know fix these, then send them to be reporcelained.
The wider part of the canopy can be seen in the previous photo, it only has a couple of chips in the porcelain for damage.
58limited
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Pic #6
Left side. The splotches are mud kicked up by an ATV. The canopy bracket mount broke on this side. I can weld a repair on, or this bracket is the same one used on the regular sized stove from the same time period.
Due to weather exposure, I will probably have to completely disassemble the stove to replace the rock wool insulation, or at least check it for dampness.
Its a big project, but I haven't found another like it on the web, so it is probably worth quite a bit once restored. I'm going to sleep on it and decide if I want to buy it, plus I want to see what everyone here thinks.
I might be buying the house next door: two story 4000sq ft built in the early 1930s - this would be perfect for that house (its a fixer-upper too).
Left side. The splotches are mud kicked up by an ATV. The canopy bracket mount broke on this side. I can weld a repair on, or this bracket is the same one used on the regular sized stove from the same time period.
Due to weather exposure, I will probably have to completely disassemble the stove to replace the rock wool insulation, or at least check it for dampness.
Its a big project, but I haven't found another like it on the web, so it is probably worth quite a bit once restored. I'm going to sleep on it and decide if I want to buy it, plus I want to see what everyone here thinks.
I might be buying the house next door: two story 4000sq ft built in the early 1930s - this would be perfect for that house (its a fixer-upper too).
maytagbear
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For what my opinion is worth....
I think you should, David.
If anyone can restore this potentially magnificent beast, you can. You seem to have clearly considered the eventualities.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
I think you should, David.
If anyone can restore this potentially magnificent beast, you can. You seem to have clearly considered the eventualities.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
58limited
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OK, I committed to buy this. The seller is even going to deliver it from 35 miles away, included in the price.
I found that this is called an Imperial and was mainly a commercial stove, but some were used in large homes/mansions.
I finally found a similar one on the net, link below. Scroll to the bottom of the link, it is 54" wide, mine is 64" wide - it has the storage/service compartment in the middle unlike the one on the website.
http://www.chamberstoves.net/Models.html
I found that this is called an Imperial and was mainly a commercial stove, but some were used in large homes/mansions.
I finally found a similar one on the net, link below. Scroll to the bottom of the link, it is 54" wide, mine is 64" wide - it has the storage/service compartment in the middle unlike the one on the website.
http://www.chamberstoves.net/Models.html
Yep, that is an "Imperial"...there's another great Chambers site with a forum full of helpful info at the link below. There's threads on the best company for re-porcelaining, info on re-chroming, etc. Some great restoration pics as well. Also, there's a fellow in East Texas who sells the Rock Wool insulation. Soooo glad you're getting this old jewel...it's going to be amazing when it's done!
http://www.vintagechambers.com/
http://www.vintagechambers.com/
58limited
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Thanks, Charbee
I joined the forum. The prices for the porcelain work are cheap - I think I can afford to redo the entire stove (a few pieces at a time). When I'm done, it will be a show-piece.
The stove was delivered today and is not in as bad of shape as I thought, just one part of the canopy needs major repair - it is a narrow 4" wide strip that runs across the top of the backsplash. All five drip pans are toast, as are 4 of the burner grates. I can;t wait to start tearing into this, but I have to finish some work on the house first.
I joined the forum. The prices for the porcelain work are cheap - I think I can afford to redo the entire stove (a few pieces at a time). When I'm done, it will be a show-piece.
The stove was delivered today and is not in as bad of shape as I thought, just one part of the canopy needs major repair - it is a narrow 4" wide strip that runs across the top of the backsplash. All five drip pans are toast, as are 4 of the burner grates. I can;t wait to start tearing into this, but I have to finish some work on the house first.
everythingold
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I would love to restore that magnificent beast. Make it a true work of art. Too bad Texas is sooo far away, nothing is more fun that making a jewel like that shine. That is truly a King's stove. Roper also made some monster commercial stoves in the teens and twenties, very few commercial units have survived it seems. matt
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