Commercial Cascade from Gordon's does a good job, bleach and phosphates....
Chlorinated Dishwashing Detergent Today?
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mich
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Reqular Cascade Gel...
Contains Sodium Hypochlorite (Chlorine), while Cascade Complete contains Enzymes..
And the Cascade Complete (with Bleach Hydroclean Action) Contains both Sodium Perborate & Enzymes..
in a Gel Compound.
Contains Sodium Hypochlorite (Chlorine), while Cascade Complete contains Enzymes..
And the Cascade Complete (with Bleach Hydroclean Action) Contains both Sodium Perborate & Enzymes..
in a Gel Compound.whirlcool
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My mother who was a Tupperware dealer in the early 60's for a time used to soak her Tupperware in the sink in hot water with a 50/50 mix of chlorine bleach and very hot water overnight. It always worked, even after storing meatballs in tomato sauce for a few days.
kenmoreguy89
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Yes bleach has same function of enzymes when it comes to protein aminoacidic and any organic enzymatic dirts..... so your concerns about the lack of enzymes should not be so......chlorine do the job of enzymes as Launderess rightly pointed out.
Yes some new dishwashers in USA and way more frequently in Australia now have a different action based on longer cycles and less pumping-jet action (European ones have been so since lot of time, even some longer in new models with energy saving cycles, the new Euro machines I find do have a further weaker action and lower max temps also) I guess their long cycles with a weaker mechanical action was supposedly (with no that much of avail IMO) meant to soak the dirt (a more water-static action than mechanical/water jet-force one) so they have a way weaker washing action/splashes, IMO they're not even remotely paragonable to the old machines that would litterally give you spotless dishes and REAL "water splashes" which are actually able to wash as a dishwasher is supposed to do, so even the tough infamous Lasagne burnt in food or dried on dirts that today's dishwashers faces with way more difficulties, real splashes actually reaching all the load properly, old machines (american machines) were also able to eliminate every trace of solid food through their built-in chopper/liquidizer (that in new models is disappearing and that I never seen in an Euro DW or at least talian one built after the early 70s) instead than leaving that nasty layer of solid trash on filters trays and dirty dishes! So IMO the old were the better not only providing a quicker washing but a better quality effective/actual washing!
I don't think the two different kinds of powders would work better in a type of machine rather than another....
Btw even in Europe there always been both the chlorinated and enzmatic ones.....
Yes some new dishwashers in USA and way more frequently in Australia now have a different action based on longer cycles and less pumping-jet action (European ones have been so since lot of time, even some longer in new models with energy saving cycles, the new Euro machines I find do have a further weaker action and lower max temps also) I guess their long cycles with a weaker mechanical action was supposedly (with no that much of avail IMO) meant to soak the dirt (a more water-static action than mechanical/water jet-force one) so they have a way weaker washing action/splashes, IMO they're not even remotely paragonable to the old machines that would litterally give you spotless dishes and REAL "water splashes" which are actually able to wash as a dishwasher is supposed to do, so even the tough infamous Lasagne burnt in food or dried on dirts that today's dishwashers faces with way more difficulties, real splashes actually reaching all the load properly, old machines (american machines) were also able to eliminate every trace of solid food through their built-in chopper/liquidizer (that in new models is disappearing and that I never seen in an Euro DW or at least talian one built after the early 70s) instead than leaving that nasty layer of solid trash on filters trays and dirty dishes! So IMO the old were the better not only providing a quicker washing but a better quality effective/actual washing!
I don't think the two different kinds of powders would work better in a type of machine rather than another....
Btw even in Europe there always been both the chlorinated and enzmatic ones.....
kenmoreguy89
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Finish....
Michael,,,
Well if you want to try it let me know...really, no problem to ship you some, rather glad! 20 bottles! LOL Wow! I told you it's almost impossible to find bottles now, just bags of 2kg, but can try, again I offer my disponibility to ship whatever you want! The more you ship the less is cost per Lbs, shipping lighter is always more expensive in term of cost per lb than when shipping heavier... I mean if shipping 1 lb may cost you 10, shipping 3 would cost 20, 4 would cost 25 and so on...I'm serious if you want just drop me some lines in PVT on here and will let you know cheapest shipping quote I can get....
Michael,,,
Well if you want to try it let me know...really, no problem to ship you some, rather glad! 20 bottles! LOL Wow! I told you it's almost impossible to find bottles now, just bags of 2kg, but can try, again I offer my disponibility to ship whatever you want! The more you ship the less is cost per Lbs, shipping lighter is always more expensive in term of cost per lb than when shipping heavier... I mean if shipping 1 lb may cost you 10, shipping 3 would cost 20, 4 would cost 25 and so on...I'm serious if you want just drop me some lines in PVT on here and will let you know cheapest shipping quote I can get....
kenmoreguy89
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I don't know why some people finds yellowed tupperware and plastic such a though job...I could also attend professional kitchens where "plongeurs" could say they tried any sort of way to wash them with no avail, when actually personally for me at home and in such occasions a wash and eventually an overnight soak in the sink with bleach always worked out perfectly...I was always seen as a sorcerer after getting them done....
mich
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I use...
Cascade Complete with Bleach Hydroclean Action (it has Oxygen Bleach, and is Power Packed with Enzymes) and it easily cleans away the nasty stains off our tubberware, and it ALWAYS comes out sparkling.
Keep in mind, my version is Phosphate-ed but still, I don't think one should have less then similar results, even with the new formulas.
Cascade Complete with Bleach Hydroclean Action (it has Oxygen Bleach, and is Power Packed with Enzymes) and it easily cleans away the nasty stains off our tubberware, and it ALWAYS comes out sparkling.
Keep in mind, my version is Phosphate-ed but still, I don't think one should have less then similar results, even with the new formulas.
mich
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Another Idea.
Cascade used to recommend (when there formula was Chlorine Based) mixing One Tablespoon to 2 Quarts water, as a presoak, or to remove grease.
One Could try 1-2 Tablespoons, of Cascade Gel (the Regular, Lime Green Bottle, without the Complete logo) and allowing the solution, mixed with HOT Water to soak overnight.
Bet, it would sure remove the Tomato, or Other Plastic Staining.
Cascade used to recommend (when there formula was Chlorine Based) mixing One Tablespoon to 2 Quarts water, as a presoak, or to remove grease.
One Could try 1-2 Tablespoons, of Cascade Gel (the Regular, Lime Green Bottle, without the Complete logo) and allowing the solution, mixed with HOT Water to soak overnight.
Bet, it would sure remove the Tomato, or Other Plastic Staining.
My impression is that the chlorine in older dw detergents was a chlorinated TSP.
It' my experience that older dishwasher with short wash cycles (like the 15 minute cycle of the 1958 KD2P) work better with a chlorinated powder. I was able to find some of that under the Sun brand at a Mexican grocery about five years ago, but I haven't seen it there in the last couple of years. I think the modern enzyme dw detergents require a longer wash time for the enzymes to work their best. Too bad for us with older, faster vintage dishwashers, I guess.
It' my experience that older dishwasher with short wash cycles (like the 15 minute cycle of the 1958 KD2P) work better with a chlorinated powder. I was able to find some of that under the Sun brand at a Mexican grocery about five years ago, but I haven't seen it there in the last couple of years. I think the modern enzyme dw detergents require a longer wash time for the enzymes to work their best. Too bad for us with older, faster vintage dishwashers, I guess.
