kenmorekeith
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I keep seeing this at walmart. Has anyone used it? can I use it on things of color? Its not like clorox2,biz or vivid.Its on the shelf with the reg bleach.
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dirtybuck
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I know on the label the main ingredient stated is hydrogen peroxide. Is it just a high concentration?
K-Sears (aka KMart)
Locally used to sell a version of "American Fare (or was it "Family"),non-chlorine bleach sold alongside LCB.
Came in the same white gallon containers as chlorine bleach but was a liquid oxygen (hydrogen peroxide)bleach.
If this is the case, then it is perfectly safe to use on colors, long as they are colourfast and temps aren't >100F for anything besides whites, pastels and or light colours.
However like all bleaches, hydrogen peroxide can damage textiles (colour loss, holes, etc), if the product is splashed or otherwise somehow gets onto fabrics where it shouldn't be, and or isn't quickly laundered.
Locally used to sell a version of "American Fare (or was it "Family"),non-chlorine bleach sold alongside LCB.
Came in the same white gallon containers as chlorine bleach but was a liquid oxygen (hydrogen peroxide)bleach.
If this is the case, then it is perfectly safe to use on colors, long as they are colourfast and temps aren't >100F for anything besides whites, pastels and or light colours.
However like all bleaches, hydrogen peroxide can damage textiles (colour loss, holes, etc), if the product is splashed or otherwise somehow gets onto fabrics where it shouldn't be, and or isn't quickly laundered.
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Am actually kind of ticked off that our local K-Sears no longer carries the product. There are times one wants to use a more gentle oxygen bleach, and liquid hydrogen peroxide fits the bill. You see such versions contain none of the scents, OBAs, bluing agents, and god only knows what else found in say Clorox II liquid bleach, or even Tide "Stain Release liquid".
You can take wash temps up to say 120F on colourfast items, but remember for about each ten degree increase the bleaching power goes up by something like 30% or so. Therefore while any oxygen bleach may not damage colours or darks in warm water (100F or so), it may be a different story at temps above 120F. Mind you it may take repeated washings under such conditions to cause such damage, or it can happen at once.
You can use this sort of bleach for pre-treating stains (blood, wine, etc), but do *NOT* allow the product to dry on fabric. Best to apply the peroxide bleach, wait a hot minute, then chuck into the wash.
Am actually kind of ticked off that our local K-Sears no longer carries the product. There are times one wants to use a more gentle oxygen bleach, and liquid hydrogen peroxide fits the bill. You see such versions contain none of the scents, OBAs, bluing agents, and god only knows what else found in say Clorox II liquid bleach, or even Tide "Stain Release liquid".
You can take wash temps up to say 120F on colourfast items, but remember for about each ten degree increase the bleaching power goes up by something like 30% or so. Therefore while any oxygen bleach may not damage colours or darks in warm water (100F or so), it may be a different story at temps above 120F. Mind you it may take repeated washings under such conditions to cause such damage, or it can happen at once.
You can use this sort of bleach for pre-treating stains (blood, wine, etc), but do *NOT* allow the product to dry on fabric. Best to apply the peroxide bleach, wait a hot minute, then chuck into the wash.
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OK so the water temp will activate the bleaching action?
All Oxygen Bleaches
Work better in hot or even boiling water, it simply increases the chemcial reaction of giving up oxygen. Liquid hydrogen peroxide like sodium perborate tends to work best in warm to hot water. However this does not mean bleaching action does not take place at cooler temps, it just takes longer,and also is less aggressive.
For years sodium perborate and hydrogen peroxide bleaches were called "colour safe" bleaches, because at normal wash temps used on such items (mainly warm or lukewarm water), there was still enough bleaching action to remove stains, but not harm colours. However as stated before, repeated laundering even at low or middle temps with any sort of oxygen bleach can fade colours over time. This is why in the UK/Europe one finds Persil and other detergents especially for colours. Such products to not contain bleaches, and that is why often certain stains are not removed.
Also when used at warm or cooler water temperatures, oxygen bleaches help keep colours bright. They do this by helping to remove dingy film that often builds up on textiles. Indeed knowing Cheer used to contain small amounts of sodium perborate (oxygen bleach) as part of their "color guard" formula; one wonders if P&G simply increased the bleach a bit to make the new "Bright Clean" versions.
Long story short, you probably can get away with using a bit of oxygen bleach when laundering your favourite dark blue shirts, long as you keep the water around 100F.
Work better in hot or even boiling water, it simply increases the chemcial reaction of giving up oxygen. Liquid hydrogen peroxide like sodium perborate tends to work best in warm to hot water. However this does not mean bleaching action does not take place at cooler temps, it just takes longer,and also is less aggressive.
For years sodium perborate and hydrogen peroxide bleaches were called "colour safe" bleaches, because at normal wash temps used on such items (mainly warm or lukewarm water), there was still enough bleaching action to remove stains, but not harm colours. However as stated before, repeated laundering even at low or middle temps with any sort of oxygen bleach can fade colours over time. This is why in the UK/Europe one finds Persil and other detergents especially for colours. Such products to not contain bleaches, and that is why often certain stains are not removed.
Also when used at warm or cooler water temperatures, oxygen bleaches help keep colours bright. They do this by helping to remove dingy film that often builds up on textiles. Indeed knowing Cheer used to contain small amounts of sodium perborate (oxygen bleach) as part of their "color guard" formula; one wonders if P&G simply increased the bleach a bit to make the new "Bright Clean" versions.
Long story short, you probably can get away with using a bit of oxygen bleach when laundering your favourite dark blue shirts, long as you keep the water around 100F.
lordkenmore
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I'm wondering something. Does the liquid oxygen bleach, used as directed, have sanitizing/germ killing ability like chlorine bleach?
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I was thinking the same thing.
I was a my walmart yesterday looking for this--I didn't see it. I would like to try it. Does anyone have a picture of what the bottle looks like?
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If I go to Walmart today I will take a pic! Its Rite next to the walmart brand of reg bleach.
dirtybuck
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Here It Is!
Great Value Chlorine Free Bleach bottle
Great Value Chlorine Free Bleach bottle
Just got back for a different walmart in town( we have 4) and got some, can't wait to try it
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Please let us know what you think!
joe_in_philly
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I think it does have some germ killing abilities, as some Maytag brand Bravos TL HE washers (with heaters) had a cycle called "Sanitary with Oxy." If I remember correctly, you had to use oxygen bleach to achive proper sanitation.
If you download a high res copy of this photo and zoom in, you can read the cycle. The photo is P080237_16z.tif, located currently on page 9 of the maytag photos. (From the attached link, select: Laundry, Washer, Top Load, then go to page 9)
If you download a high res copy of this photo and zoom in, you can read the cycle. The photo is P080237_16z.tif, located currently on page 9 of the maytag photos. (From the attached link, select: Laundry, Washer, Top Load, then go to page 9)
Hydrogen Peroxide
Can act as a sanitiser/mild disenfectant, but IIRC you have to use it at wash temps >140F to get any where near the same results as chlorine bleach.
Oxygen bleaches are used all the time to deal with molds, fungi, bacteria and other "germs", especially by those who wish to avoid chlorine bleach residue (brewers of beer for instance), but activated oxgyen bleaches (which produce peracetic acid in wash), are a better bet.
In Europe one can purchase laundry detergents with activated bleaching systems designed for hospital/nursing home use. These products are certified by various government health agencies (much like our EPA does for disenfectants here), that when used as directed to kill "germs". However this usually involves wash temps of 160F, which still is an improvement over boil washing at temps >170F.
Can act as a sanitiser/mild disenfectant, but IIRC you have to use it at wash temps >140F to get any where near the same results as chlorine bleach.
Oxygen bleaches are used all the time to deal with molds, fungi, bacteria and other "germs", especially by those who wish to avoid chlorine bleach residue (brewers of beer for instance), but activated oxgyen bleaches (which produce peracetic acid in wash), are a better bet.
In Europe one can purchase laundry detergents with activated bleaching systems designed for hospital/nursing home use. These products are certified by various government health agencies (much like our EPA does for disenfectants here), that when used as directed to kill "germs". However this usually involves wash temps of 160F, which still is an improvement over boil washing at temps >170F.
