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It looks practically BOL to me! So it will sell cheap. I doubt, however, that these will last long given the situations where they will end up: Rentals and houses of eco-minded or laundry-illiterate where they'll become mouldy, scummy messes. I would almost guarantee there will be a lawsuit as these machines fall over dead from lack of hot water washing! 

 

The eco-nannies finally have a machine that conforms to their evil agenda... 

 

Although my solution would be to swap the water hoses around :P 
 
From reading CU's take on this washer-they didn't seem overwhelmed by it.They say the washer is noisey and hard on clothes-and to top it off with the cold only wash-the body "funk" won't get washed out of the clothes.Pass on this.As one member says--SWAP THE HOSES!!!!
 
Yuck!

I am loosing all respect for Whirlpool each time they come out with a "new" product.

 

It will be a matter of time until a group of Lawyers find a group of People that have had / are having

terrible skin problems because of their "cold wash washer". 

 

It really bothers me when a corporation that  has made laundry products for so many years does something this stupid! It appears to me that Whirlpool is trying anything possible to regain their Throne in the laundry appliance division. (or any division of appliances)  What other reason would they do something so dumb?

 

I hope no other manufacture comes out with a "cold water washer" just to make Whirlpool look like idiots!

 

 
 
Well obviously cycle controlled water temps are nothing new...that's been a BOL trait for a very long time, but this machine seems to be geared mostly for cold water usage, which oddly enough is what most people use. At least most people as is the "general public" LOL. Seems like Whirlpool has made a machine that is designed for it's customers....can't criticize them for that! Problem is that you def need to use a cold water detergent, which I can almost guarantee the majority of people won't use. The big jug of Sun will be paired a lot with this type of machine. Gunk city!

I actually use mostly warm water when I wash or cool so this washer wouldn't work well for me. Hey, they have to keep up with regulations so they do what they gotta do. I looked at some of their new machines at Home Depot last night and they seem ok. Buy what you like, is my motto! LOL
 
I'm the first to say there is a place in the world of laundry for cold washes---the Cold Wash cycle on the new Maytag gets used more than I thought it would---but a washer that limits choices this much is not for me. And you know the hot water in the Heavy Duty cycle is only warm; 105-110 degrees.  

 

Pass.  Big-time.

 

 
 
A single Cold Water Wash cycle on a machine wasn't enough?  I'm appalled that that one cycle is so boldly presented on many current washers.  And I know so many who wash only in cold water. 
 
Oy, it's not a dream sequence

I wondered if, perhaps, this washer uses a mix of cold and hot water for filling to give a tepid >65-68 degree wash. I find no mention of water temperatures, mixing hot/cold for correct or ideal temperature wash water in the manual or the machine's page on WP's site.

Maybe they should have put the "Clean Washer with Affresh" cycle at the top of the selector dial.

I'll keep my '61 Mark XII.

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The angle about protecting clothes from heat damage is interesting marketing.  I've noticed people who run only cold washes seem to be paranoid about that.  Someone in another forum recently said, "I wash everything but towels in cold, to make sure nothing shrinks. If you wash in warm or hot, how do you keep sheets and clothing from shrinking?"

Sheets?  Really?
 
No need to apologize Pierre, for how you do your laundry lol. Despite being surrounded by laundry enthusiasts ;-) Like I said in my previous post, this washer is designed for how a large portion of the customer base does their laundry. I'm sure Whirlpool knows how many people wash in only cold water and quite honestly I commend them for producing a product tailored for that market base. This is also a perfect unit for a landlord who supplies both laundry and utilities with their rental. That way you have a pretty good chance of keeping your hot water costs down.
 
A $549 washer with no temp control?

Wonder what kind of profit WP will be making off of this BOL washer?!!

I agree Greg!  The Clean Cycle should be at the top of the Dial with a note to run every five loads!  LOL!

Your WP Mark XIL is beautiful!!!

 
 
Common sense......

wash all your loads in COLD water, and then run a CleanWasher cycle in HOT......where are my savings...

many of these new machines are already constructed to know if you hook the HOT water to the COLD water side of the valve.....it will shut down on you, and an improper installation is not covered under a warranty...

these machines have already been built and are in use as we speak, just not noted on the control panel, most temps now are so dubbed down, people don't care, they load, push the button and walk away.....

oddly enough for the ones who wash in cold water, most use a dryer, most are electric......again, where are you saving?...

most of my life I washed in WARM, just to get good results as well as save some money......when the Neptune came out, it allowed me to wash in HOT almost all the time, whats 3 gallons of water?....

people complain of longer wash times for these HE machines, that's only built in for COOLER temps to remove stains, it needs a longer activation time, versus if these machines washed in true Warm/Hot temps, the cleaning would happen sooner...

these machines would be great for a Landlord situation...when people aren't paying for it, they will wash in all HOT water....a full tub to wash one piece of clothing....
 
hoses

Guys, you don't have to to swap the hoses. Just put a Y connector on the cold inlet, and attach hot and cold to that Y connector and manually select it.
 
I have to laugh when people insist on washing in cold as not to shrink the clothes or have colors bleed, but turn around and toss them in the dryer for 70 minutes on High. I actually called one of my sisters friends out on her little habit and she growled at me. HA!
In my own experience I've actually found the dryer to have more influence on shrinking/fading than any temp in the washer. I now dry clothes on medium, towels and sheets on high.

Also from a landlord perspective that would be a good washer. My dads building has two units and 3 people living in each of them, and a small retail shop on the first floor. The water usage is about 10,000 gallons a month which is a little high to me, and the summer gas bill is kinda high just for hot water use. The washing machines are both DD Kenpools, so I know going to something like a cold water washer would help that a lot. Though of course I and even my dad knows better and wouldn't do something like that because he has to maintain the appliances and a gunked up broken 2 year old washer would be unacceptable.
 
Could someone please explain and/or correct me?

These are the facts/physics as I understand them. They're based on what I learned in classes, employee training when I worked at The Gap and Chess King, reading Consumer Reports back when they supplied technical material, the expertise of fellow AW.org members, and my own experience.

1. To go from a pile of dirty laundry to a pile of clean, dry clothes ready to fold/hang up, most of the ENERGY (not water!) savings comes from higher final spin speeds that allow the dryer to run for shorter times to dry clothes. IIRC, this is more important than everything else combined.

2. Sebum/skin oil does not dissolve below 85-90F... or is it higher?

3. A given detergent (powder or liquid) needs a given temp to dissolve fully into the wash water.

4. I have NEVER gotten olive oil out of clothing in washed in tap cold water. I repeat...NEVER.

5. Most shrinkage of clothing is a result of dryer temps, not wash temps, regardless of how hot the wash water might be.

6. The energy cost of heating water for a hot wash an old fashioned TL is a good bit less than the difference in energy used to dry a load of clothes spun at 1200 as opposed to 700rpm final spin. IIRC, this is true regardless of how the water is heated or whether the dryer is gas or electric.

I have extremely oily skin and sweat like a pig so removal of said oil and sweat is my main concern regarding laundry. Apologies if I'm a bit OCD about it.

Could somebody please tell me what I have wrong or what factors might mitigate any of the above? Have I overlooked any exceptions?

Thanks,

Jim [this post was last edited: 10/23/2015-15:29]
 
Well with the amount of water this thing uses where is the savings?  My water costs more than my electric and this thing is using 26 Gals per cycle.....promoted in CA?

 

It is warmer in CA than where I live so perhaps CA cold water is higher than 38F in the winter, but I can't see how 45F water or whatever would clean.

 

This machine is nothing but something WLP wants to get federal tax government credits for. 
 
Agreed, Jerrod6.

The CA rebate is from Southern California Gas Company so one could make a case that

1. Anything connected with water use is outside of their purview.
2. This washer is a "Good Thing" because users will lower their SCGC bill.
3. As a result of #1 & #2 the fact that it is apparently not water efficient is irrelevant.

However, this case ignores the fact that CA's water situation is (last I heard) rather more dire than their gas situation. Or am I wrong about that?

I can just see the lumpenvolk buying this in droves believing they're doing their bit to help with the drought.
 
Rental Queen!

I'm still convinced this washer was designed strong in favor of being sold to rental properties. It is the lowest price model in the line up...the next one up is identical except it has temp controls. Just like the previous generation Chevy Impala...how many people voluntarily went out to buy one for themselves? Not too many. It was a rental car queen. Don't think you'll see too many people grabbing this machine up either. I bet it will be sold in volume at a discount. Honestly I haven't seen a "new" version of the Admiral or Roper machines either. Seems like Amana (and the BOL Kenmore) is being sold as the cheapo machine. Maybe they are phasing out Admiral and Roper? This could be another option in the cheapo lineup. Just my 2 cents...or 2 more cents I should say :-D
 
if i had the choice between an all clod water washer and vin

if i had the choice between an all cold water washe washer and vintage washer i would go vintage with true washe rinse temp because i do use warm water wash and hot water wash depending on whats to wash like

pem press T-shirt warm wash cold rinse

bedding hotwater cold rinse but if i had a warm rinse option for bedding i would set to warm rinse pic is there as an exemple

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the Arçelik machine look interesting...

Any one have any first hand knowledge of these?  They look like they are 220 Volt so I wonder if they are on a par with the Miele machines.

 

Now that Miele stopped making 220 volt machines (except for the Little Giant "Spa" machine), I would like to have options for when the 1986 gives up the ghost.

 

 

 

 
 
So the 549 dollar washer, has just one "hot" wash? I'm sorry at $549 that is no BOL washer. The only way I can see this being a BOL washer is if it actually sold at stores below msrp. Like how I got my first new washer for I think like 449 when GE had it set for 699. Also why did Whirlpool not brand this a roper?

-Andy
 

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