mich
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They re-did there testing on the latest Phosphate Free formulations this month, and it's kinda interesting, what they found..
Just look what they wrote...
Just look what they wrote...
Consumer Reports, Re-Reviews Dishwasher Detergents
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mich
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I myself...
Found it very interesting how, Cascade Complete even topped the rating scale, over P&G's new Cascade Platinum, even there Basic, Base line action pacs beat it out..
And Finish Quantum, still couldn't make a top rating.. There Gel Pacs & Powerball Tablets beat them out too..
And it looks as though, P&G has done a better job at formulating there Complete Powder, as it also earned a high score for cleaning results.
Another Shocker.. Palmolive's Eco Gel (Which is Chlorine Based) received a fairly good score as well. Even beat out the Finish Gel (not really a surprise) but for a brand that started off as Phosphate Free, I think they've really gotten it down.
Found it very interesting how, Cascade Complete even topped the rating scale, over P&G's new Cascade Platinum, even there Basic, Base line action pacs beat it out..
And Finish Quantum, still couldn't make a top rating.. There Gel Pacs & Powerball Tablets beat them out too..
And it looks as though, P&G has done a better job at formulating there Complete Powder, as it also earned a high score for cleaning results.
Another Shocker.. Palmolive's Eco Gel (Which is Chlorine Based) received a fairly good score as well. Even beat out the Finish Gel (not really a surprise) but for a brand that started off as Phosphate Free, I think they've really gotten it down.
What's that I see?
Might a certain someone want to accept responsibility for #34's poor showing?
Might a certain someone want to accept responsibility for #34's poor showing?
mich
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You know..
It's a crappy camera, however, I don't appreciate the tone. It took me like 7 tries to finally get it, to where the text and everything looked clear enough to post, and the flash "cover up" wasn't purposeful.
You know, if your so concerned, you could go get a copy for yourself. I was just trying to be nice, and share. I think one, should probably be a little more appreciative, that someone even took the time to do so.
It's a crappy camera, however, I don't appreciate the tone. It took me like 7 tries to finally get it, to where the text and everything looked clear enough to post, and the flash "cover up" wasn't purposeful.
You know, if your so concerned, you could go get a copy for yourself. I was just trying to be nice, and share. I think one, should probably be a little more appreciative, that someone even took the time to do so.
I dont think thats what he meant...he meant and I got it really quick was
#34 The Laundress had a poor showing in the ratings. It was no knock to you Mich at all.....
#34 The Laundress had a poor showing in the ratings. It was no knock to you Mich at all.....
I'm not naming any names
Nor trying to start an argument or tick anyone off but... CR is copyrighted content and not too sure they would be happy with reprints (even if in photograph form) online.
Doing so could put our Fearless Leader on the hook for legal action.
Again, not trying to start trouble just pointing something out.
Nor trying to start an argument or tick anyone off but... CR is copyrighted content and not too sure they would be happy with reprints (even if in photograph form) online.
Doing so could put our Fearless Leader on the hook for legal action.
Again, not trying to start trouble just pointing something out.
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the local news channels put consumer reports results on tv all the time.......
the local news channels put consumer reports results on tv all the time.......
because,
the "Local News Channels " pay CU for footage and documents. Have done for years.
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the "Local News Channels " pay CU for footage and documents. Have done for years.
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Thanks Mike (reply #4).
As for the OP, being one who owns a non-cooperative scanner, I'm quite aware of the legibility issues stemming from photographing a printed document. If anything, the fact that I was able to read line 34 should have been received as a compliment.
Apologies for the confusion.
As for the OP, being one who owns a non-cooperative scanner, I'm quite aware of the legibility issues stemming from photographing a printed document. If anything, the fact that I was able to read line 34 should have been received as a compliment.
Apologies for the confusion.
Sorry guys, I had to delete the image because the content is copyrighted and posting that is against the law. You are certainly allowed to talk about what they wrote, you just can't scan/photograph and post the actual article.
Doing so could put our Fearless Leader on the hook for legal action.<<<---Actually no that is an incorrect statement...
And just so everyone is clear, automaticwasher.org and vacuumland.org both have been officially registered with the United States Copyright Office. What that means if one of our users posts a copyrighted item and the owner wants to take legal action, the person who posted the item is responsible and not the website owners. It's called the "safe harbor provision" in copyright law (google copyright safe harbor law). If consumer reports saw that image they would contact me and I would be required by law to give the ip address of the original poster. Then Consumer Reports could take legal action against the Original Poster. So do be careful what you post online.
Doing so could put our Fearless Leader on the hook for legal action.<<<---Actually no that is an incorrect statement...
And just so everyone is clear, automaticwasher.org and vacuumland.org both have been officially registered with the United States Copyright Office. What that means if one of our users posts a copyrighted item and the owner wants to take legal action, the person who posted the item is responsible and not the website owners. It's called the "safe harbor provision" in copyright law (google copyright safe harbor law). If consumer reports saw that image they would contact me and I would be required by law to give the ip address of the original poster. Then Consumer Reports could take legal action against the Original Poster. So do be careful what you post online.
Then Consumer Reports could take legal action against the Or
Sorry for the incorrect information.
Thank you for making things clear.
L.
Sorry for the incorrect information.
Thank you for making things clear.
L.
Which month's edition is the dw det survey to be found?
It is in the new CU magazine for October 2013. I have a copy of it as well....
Yes, thanks, I found my copy (for some reason the mail carrier decided to let it slip through unread this time)...
I do note that in very last place is a product called "Laundress".
I do note that in very last place is a product called "Laundress".
I was surprised Cascade Platinum Action Pacs weren't at the top of the ratings! Part of what sold me on them was their superior performance on pots and pans. I'm no longer getting white film on my plastics, either, which was a problem with both Cascade Complete Pacs and Finish Powerball Tablets.
All the user reviews for Cascade Platinum at Consumer Reports Online ask the same thing: Why isn't this stuff at the top of the ratings?
The only explanation I have is that CR tests in very hard water, while I have mechanically-softened water.
Platinum actually bests their top-rated Cascade Complete Pacs for cleaning of dishes; it's the poor performance they experienced with pots/pans that lowered its overall score. Cascade Complete Pacs was awarded an overall score of 84, while Platinum gets a 79.
All the user reviews for Cascade Platinum at Consumer Reports Online ask the same thing: Why isn't this stuff at the top of the ratings?
The only explanation I have is that CR tests in very hard water, while I have mechanically-softened water.
Platinum actually bests their top-rated Cascade Complete Pacs for cleaning of dishes; it's the poor performance they experienced with pots/pans that lowered its overall score. Cascade Complete Pacs was awarded an overall score of 84, while Platinum gets a 79.
mark_wpduet
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has the phosphate FREE formula of Cascade complete changed in the past year??
I only ask because the last time I used it was about a year ago, and it was just "OK"......not the greatest.
has the phosphate FREE formula of Cascade complete changed in the past year??
I only ask because the last time I used it was about a year ago, and it was just "OK"......not the greatest.
So I have a question:
I am currently using German finish Quantum with >30% phosphate as my daily driver. Looking at the results, do you think I should try some Cascade to take back home or would I just be wasting my money? My dishwasher is a Bosch with water softener.
Alex
I am currently using German finish Quantum with >30% phosphate as my daily driver. Looking at the results, do you think I should try some Cascade to take back home or would I just be wasting my money? My dishwasher is a Bosch with water softener.
Alex
danemodsandy
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Kinda Stingy with the Info:
When I saw this report, I noted that there wasn't information about the actual hardness of the water used, nor the duration of testing - was it given elsewhere?
Consumer Reports used to give a lot more information about their testing methods, which helped you decide if their testing results applied to whatever real-world conditions you were dealing with.
Here in Northeast Iowa (Waterloo), water is so hard that many peoples' dishwashers are heavily crusted with lime deposits, and the dishes emerging from them are unspeakable. I have turned a lot of people on to Bubble Bandit, including one TOL KitchenAid owner whose stainless-tub dishwasher was so limed up it looked like an old Plastisol tub. The Bubble Bandit restored the dishwasher after a few uses.
There is nothing in the report I saw that helped me believe that extreme liming could be prevented by the use of the products shown. Maybe normal hard water, but not really bad hard water.
It may well be that these products do work in extreme conditions, but from the info given, I don't know that.
When I saw this report, I noted that there wasn't information about the actual hardness of the water used, nor the duration of testing - was it given elsewhere?
Consumer Reports used to give a lot more information about their testing methods, which helped you decide if their testing results applied to whatever real-world conditions you were dealing with.
Here in Northeast Iowa (Waterloo), water is so hard that many peoples' dishwashers are heavily crusted with lime deposits, and the dishes emerging from them are unspeakable. I have turned a lot of people on to Bubble Bandit, including one TOL KitchenAid owner whose stainless-tub dishwasher was so limed up it looked like an old Plastisol tub. The Bubble Bandit restored the dishwasher after a few uses.
There is nothing in the report I saw that helped me believe that extreme liming could be prevented by the use of the products shown. Maybe normal hard water, but not really bad hard water.
It may well be that these products do work in extreme conditions, but from the info given, I don't know that.
Alex, with a water softener, I doubt you'd have any problem using any of the top rated Cascade products. The only one I've used is Platinum, and it's okay if a bit sudsy, but no more sudsy than the Finish Quantum with phosphates I still have. Our water is of medium hardness, about 120 mg/L, and I have no softener.
