Convection element

[henene4]

So I double checked

I checked 2 Neff elements:

An upper line model: https://www.neff-home.com/de/shop/11022810
A lower line model: https://www.neff-home.com/de/shop/11022810

Both the same 2300W part. Both are CircoTherm thougj

On the Bosch site (so simmilar to Siemens):

On a 4D convection system (so the one with reversing convection fan; just chose my favorite model): https://www.bosch-home.com/de/shop/11006432
2200W +/- 5%.

Miele appears to use a 2.1kW element.

 

[henene4]

Oh, yeah, and...



Franke, who have a 2 level heater for their convection for some reason...

 

[Chetlaham]

Does this have a bake and broil element? Temp control?

https://www.shpock.com/en-gb/i/V0Xr84-V3mNPi0Zt/retro-1980s-electric-free-standing-cooker

 

[combo52]

Range in post #22

Does have an oven thermostat and FOUR more one in each top burner element.

 

John L.

 

[Chetlaham]

Got a wiring diagram/service manual for this oven? I can't see why the burners would need a stat.

 

[Chetlaham]

Edit: never mind- wrong post LOL

But regrading the burners- why the stat?

 

[foraloysius]

The burners don't have thermostats. The red point in the middle is the sign for a high power element.

 

[foraloysius]

Here is an enlarged picture of the control panel. Belling is a British brand. IIRC the grill is in the top oven. The bottom oven is a fan oven.

 

[Chetlaham]

Explain- are you saying the oven heats the cooktop?

 

[foraloysius]

???

I didn't say that.

 

[foraloysius]

BTW, this is a cooktop with sensors in the centre of the front burners. The front burners are thermostatically controlled.

 

[Chetlaham]

I thought there were British ovens where the cook-top heated the stove or something like that? Most likely I miss heard.

BTW- thanks for the sensor pic!

 

[foraloysius]

Perhaps, but they would be older if so. This one has four electric solid burners and two ovens.

 

[Chetlaham]

Two ovens- got it.

Back element or just convection?

 

[foraloysius]

I guess you missed my description before. The top oven is a regular oven, there is also a grill in that oven, I guess you would say broiler. The bottom oven is a fan oven or convection oven as it is called in American English.

 

[Chetlaham]

Just got confused when you said grill... I assumed the cooktop rather then a broiler. My mistake on that.

 

[combo52]

Range in post #22

ALL four top burners have thermostats built into the surface elements, ALL cast-iron elements like this have two elements and a thermostat that cycles one element off to keep the surface temperature around a maximum of 850F when using the element on high heat.

 

The only CI elements that do not have this built-in thermostat are ones that have an exposed thermostat that is spring loaded and contacts the bottom of the cooking vessel.

 

Thermostats are a very necessary part of any well performing and safe range.

 

John L.

 

[Chetlaham]

"Thermostats are a very necessary part of any well performing and safe range."

Well, that is contradicted by the millions of Calrod units that have zero thermostatic control with the infinite switch set to high virtually eliminating any cycling.

Yes I know UL just recently required that Calrods have a T-stat, but that is from careless inviduals who IMO should not be cooking to begin with. Anytime your oil or fat smokes you are way off, and ingesting something that is toxic if you ask me.

 

[foraloysius]

These burners don't cycle on and off and they have only one element. The knobs of these burnes most of the time have 7 positions: . 1 . 2 . 3 and 0. There is no safety feature, no automatic shut off when temperatures get too high. Here is a new Smeg cooktop (or hob as it is called in British English).

https://www.vandenborre.be/elektris...ductiekookplaat/smeg-se-435-s?type=attributes

Here is a translation of a part of the product sheet:

 

[Chetlaham]

How do you achieve 7 wattage with one element? Triac control?