I don't have room in my kitchen for a "real" dishwasher. I've been thinking about a countertop model. Can anyone advise me about that, typically I tend to think of most new appliances as cheap and junky so I'd appreciate any advice out there.
Countertop Dishwasher
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maybe I could fit in an 18in floor model, but are any of them built well? I saw two online and they looked cheap. Did anyone build a small one that is vintage?
maybe I could fit in an 18in floor model, but are any of them built well? I saw two online and they looked cheap. Did anyone build a small one that is vintage?
High quality 18 inch dishwasher you say?
Here's an option:
http://www.mieleusa.com/usa/dishwas...=568&series=120&nav=20&snav=70&tnav=73&oT=125
Here's an option:
http://www.mieleusa.com/usa/dishwas...=568&series=120&nav=20&snav=70&tnav=73&oT=125
toploader55
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Or This
I had one of these back in 1990 when I was in a studio.
Cleaned Very Well. You can make it a built in later.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02214412000P?prdNo=18&blockNo=18&blockType=G18
I had one of these back in 1990 when I was in a studio.
Cleaned Very Well. You can make it a built in later.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02214412000P?prdNo=18&blockNo=18&blockType=G18
cfz2882
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danby or haier
only countertop dishwashers i have seen locally have been chinese made
danby and haier.Grabbed a smashed up danby at the dump a couple years ago
to examine;sheet metal stampings and cabinet assembly were pretty crude,
but the pumps were pretty decent for something chinese and (suprize)the
timer and pressure switches were german made...
Problems found with the dishwasher were a badly plugged wash pump inlet
screen and a bad connection to the heating element.
My local pamida had these but they were expensive at something like$300
(IIRC)and did not sell well-they eventually put them on closeout for
around$120 and the last 4 sold in about a week.
I see these in the consign shops sometimes,but considering where they are
made might need to be taken apart and connections checked, etc before
put into use(and the pump inlet screen checked LOL)
only countertop dishwashers i have seen locally have been chinese made
danby and haier.Grabbed a smashed up danby at the dump a couple years ago
to examine;sheet metal stampings and cabinet assembly were pretty crude,
but the pumps were pretty decent for something chinese and (suprize)the
timer and pressure switches were german made...
Problems found with the dishwasher were a badly plugged wash pump inlet
screen and a bad connection to the heating element.
My local pamida had these but they were expensive at something like$300
(IIRC)and did not sell well-they eventually put them on closeout for
around$120 and the last 4 sold in about a week.
I see these in the consign shops sometimes,but considering where they are
made might need to be taken apart and connections checked, etc before
put into use(and the pump inlet screen checked LOL)
We had an 18" for about a year and it was an exercise in futility: always full or almost full and forget about large pots and pans. We wound up handwashing because it took so much less time than trying to fit things in the stupid machine. A countertop model is even more ridiculous, I mean how long does it take to handwash four place settings?
launderess
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Have Had An 18" "Kenmore"
Rebadged Frigidaire dishwasher for almost ten years now, and while yes it does not hold as much as it's larger cousins, the job gets done.
True one cannot fit large items in there, but that was expected wasn't it? I mean you aren't going to fit the same amount of laundry into a portable small washer as it's full sized cousin, are you?
Run ours either daily or every other day, sometimes longer depending upon how long it takes to get filled. Give the thing plenty of *hot* water and decent dishwasher detergent, results are more than fine.
What doesn't fit into the dishwasher, gets done the old fashioned way. Still am that glad to have the unit versus having to wash everything via hand.
This is my story, and am sticking to it!
L.
Rebadged Frigidaire dishwasher for almost ten years now, and while yes it does not hold as much as it's larger cousins, the job gets done.
True one cannot fit large items in there, but that was expected wasn't it? I mean you aren't going to fit the same amount of laundry into a portable small washer as it's full sized cousin, are you?
Run ours either daily or every other day, sometimes longer depending upon how long it takes to get filled. Give the thing plenty of *hot* water and decent dishwasher detergent, results are more than fine.
What doesn't fit into the dishwasher, gets done the old fashioned way. Still am that glad to have the unit versus having to wash everything via hand.
This is my story, and am sticking to it!
L.
My sister's mother-in-law has one of the Frigidaire 18" models, and it seems to suit her OK. Don't know why she got a small one, as her kitchen is plenty big enough.
macboy91si
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The Dandy Danby
I have an older Danby countertop and I LOVE IT! It's small which you would expect, but it washes well and it takes care of the obvious problem of not being able to have a full-size (or stand up portable).
EdgeStar, Koldfront and Avanti make a clone. The Haier model is now a close as well. Decent machines, I prefer the older ones withthe mechanical timer and heater switch vs the current electronic programmed models. Compact Appliance has a few to tak e a gander at, including the new generation with the full-width opening.
I have 2, let me know if there's anything specific you want to know.
-Tim
I have an older Danby countertop and I LOVE IT! It's small which you would expect, but it washes well and it takes care of the obvious problem of not being able to have a full-size (or stand up portable).
EdgeStar, Koldfront and Avanti make a clone. The Haier model is now a close as well. Decent machines, I prefer the older ones withthe mechanical timer and heater switch vs the current electronic programmed models. Compact Appliance has a few to tak e a gander at, including the new generation with the full-width opening.
I have 2, let me know if there's anything specific you want to know.
-Tim
Danby
Picked up this machine in a Salvation Army thrift store.
Needed a good cleaning and a new set of hoses(under $10).
It is an excellent performer, and pretty fast.
The final rinse gets pretty hot to flash dry the dishes.
Picked up this machine in a Salvation Army thrift store.
Needed a good cleaning and a new set of hoses(under $10).
It is an excellent performer, and pretty fast.
The final rinse gets pretty hot to flash dry the dishes.
Now
I'm wondering about 18 inch models. I've seen some pictures around here before of 18 inch vintage kitchenaids. What can you all tell me about 18 inch machines?
I'm wondering about 18 inch models. I've seen some pictures around here before of 18 inch vintage kitchenaids. What can you all tell me about 18 inch machines?
toploader55
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18" KitchenAid
I think I'm pretty sure to say that You've never seen a Vintage 18 " KitchenAid.
I have never seen one. I believe the only ones that made 18 " machines are D+M, Whirlpool, Miele, and maybe one more MFG. Oh yeah Fridgilux.
The 18" I had back in the 90s was a D+M. It cleaned Very Well, and had a Tower. The newer ones actually have a full size spray arm under the upper rack. What's not to like about that ? And as I recall, it's the same size pump and motor (My D+M was) they put in a full size machine. Monsoon in a Bread Box.
I don't think you'd be disappointed. Eddie
I think I'm pretty sure to say that You've never seen a Vintage 18 " KitchenAid.
I have never seen one. I believe the only ones that made 18 " machines are D+M, Whirlpool, Miele, and maybe one more MFG. Oh yeah Fridgilux.
The 18" I had back in the 90s was a D+M. It cleaned Very Well, and had a Tower. The newer ones actually have a full size spray arm under the upper rack. What's not to like about that ? And as I recall, it's the same size pump and motor (My D+M was) they put in a full size machine. Monsoon in a Bread Box.
I don't think you'd be disappointed. Eddie
michaelman2
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Joe,
I have a Briva sink dishwasher. I love it...It is over priced and you do have to have the sink space for the full size version. I have to say that I never use the full size dishwasher due to the Briva being so fast and it has it's own water heater making things even all the more clean. If I were in a smaller space I would still try to have one of these even instead of a regular DW.
I have a Briva sink dishwasher. I love it...It is over priced and you do have to have the sink space for the full size version. I have to say that I never use the full size dishwasher due to the Briva being so fast and it has it's own water heater making things even all the more clean. If I were in a smaller space I would still try to have one of these even instead of a regular DW.
Actually
this would be absolutely grand to find one of! I hijacked this off the sears 1975 thread. Ugh everything out there now is either black or white.
this would be absolutely grand to find one of! I hijacked this off the sears 1975 thread. Ugh everything out there now is either black or white.
I own the danby 18 inch floor portable model.
I have had it for about 2 or 3 years and it works great. ss inside water softener built in. Manual clean filter. Not loud and gets everything clean first time. It also drys with steam. Only problem I have had is the bottom kick plate want stay on.
Youmust remove it to drain a overflow of suds. Thinks to finish tablets I had to do just that. I stick with powder now on. But finish did mail me a check for the tablets I had to pitch out.
Reason it this this water softener makes the water soft so they foam like mad.
I have had it for about 2 or 3 years and it works great. ss inside water softener built in. Manual clean filter. Not loud and gets everything clean first time. It also drys with steam. Only problem I have had is the bottom kick plate want stay on.
Youmust remove it to drain a overflow of suds. Thinks to finish tablets I had to do just that. I stick with powder now on. But finish did mail me a check for the tablets I had to pitch out.
Reason it this this water softener makes the water soft so they foam like mad.
It would seem from my online research
that in the 18 inch portable models the Danby gets the best ratings, some have commented negatively about it's sink connection system being a weakness.
that in the 18 inch portable models the Danby gets the best ratings, some have commented negatively about it's sink connection system being a weakness.
I never had a problem with the sank adapter at all. Best part unlike ge it is easy to replace if need hose screws to it and they sell it for 6 dollars. I bought a spear to use on a washing machine to make it portable.
They also have all there parts in stock. I was shock myself to find this out.So does danby have parts yes. I called them got there parts dept it ship from Pa warehouse. Ask the guy if they keeps parts at all times he told me they have the main parts motor pumps hose but tops and doors are special order.
the sank adapter is plastic like all of them now it has the red release presser button. And fits snug and never leaks heck I forget to turn the tap off sometimes and no problem at all.
I think the ones giving it bad on that part never used a portable anything. I watch a video of some woman trying to remove it with the water on. omg read the book. Turn water off push button then hold and slid ring easy as pie.
Only thing I will say is a week point is the bottom kick plate but it is not needed at all it is for looks only. Was going to replace it was 12.89 but said heck with it. I got the old one and night use magnets to hold it on.
The dishwaser has 2 spry arms bottom in under top rack and a spry port on the very top. Top rank can be lowerd and the 4 rack glass holds can be removed for more room.
Also some say it keeps running not the case at all. I think people are thinking the steam part is the end but after steam it flushes the water then the water soften system. Also not that loud.
They also have all there parts in stock. I was shock myself to find this out.So does danby have parts yes. I called them got there parts dept it ship from Pa warehouse. Ask the guy if they keeps parts at all times he told me they have the main parts motor pumps hose but tops and doors are special order.
the sank adapter is plastic like all of them now it has the red release presser button. And fits snug and never leaks heck I forget to turn the tap off sometimes and no problem at all.
I think the ones giving it bad on that part never used a portable anything. I watch a video of some woman trying to remove it with the water on. omg read the book. Turn water off push button then hold and slid ring easy as pie.
Only thing I will say is a week point is the bottom kick plate but it is not needed at all it is for looks only. Was going to replace it was 12.89 but said heck with it. I got the old one and night use magnets to hold it on.
The dishwaser has 2 spry arms bottom in under top rack and a spry port on the very top. Top rank can be lowerd and the 4 rack glass holds can be removed for more room.
Also some say it keeps running not the case at all. I think people are thinking the steam part is the end but after steam it flushes the water then the water soften system. Also not that loud.
ronhic
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Lemair...
...for me when I moved into a tiny flat in Sydney. Mine had a small upper rack for cups and an outer cabinet, but it was a really great unit....
...for me when I moved into a tiny flat in Sydney. Mine had a small upper rack for cups and an outer cabinet, but it was a really great unit....
ronhic
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...and the inside....
It was a bugger to fill the rinse aid though - thats the fill cap right at the back in white....
It was a bugger to fill the rinse aid though - thats the fill cap right at the back in white....
sdlee
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I have a counter top Danby. Personally I really like it. The inside is small so you need to wash at least once a day. Sometimes for big dinners when the familys over Ive had to run it more than once to get everything donr but it still beats sstanding endlessly at the sink.
My only complaint is that in overall outside size. Be prepared to compromise the space of that of a huge microwave. It took me a few positions on the counter before I was happy. It still looks abit bohemoth tho. Another guy in my buildint has his ona roll away cart and just wheels it to the sink in time of need.
My only complaint is that in overall outside size. Be prepared to compromise the space of that of a huge microwave. It took me a few positions on the counter before I was happy. It still looks abit bohemoth tho. Another guy in my buildint has his ona roll away cart and just wheels it to the sink in time of need.
I have the version below but with rotary controls and love it! It sits in my bathroom. It's quite a rare thing for a college student living in dorms to have one but, I do! I run it every 2 days or so between me and my suite-mate. It holds <span style="text-decoration: underline;">4</span> place settings.
http://www.compactappliance.com/DWP...gital-Controls-Silver/DWP45ES,default,pd.html
However, there is a newer version that doesn't have a window but can apparently hold <span style="text-decoration: underline;">6</span> place settings. It's slightly smaller in width but about and inch deeper. They put the controls on the door instead of having a separate side panel for them, making the interior of the machine a good 2 or 3 inches wider! This machine also has more cycles!
http://www.compactappliance.com/DWP...S,default,pd.html?cgid=Appliances-Dishwashers
http://www.compactappliance.com/DWP...gital-Controls-Silver/DWP45ES,default,pd.html
However, there is a newer version that doesn't have a window but can apparently hold <span style="text-decoration: underline;">6</span> place settings. It's slightly smaller in width but about and inch deeper. They put the controls on the door instead of having a separate side panel for them, making the interior of the machine a good 2 or 3 inches wider! This machine also has more cycles!
http://www.compactappliance.com/DWP...S,default,pd.html?cgid=Appliances-Dishwashers
macboy91si
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The New Version
I have been looking at these as well Jamie. It's the new version of the Danby/Koldfront/EdgeStar units and I think it's inline to replace them. It has a more compact pump and I believe it's a reversing main pump that also drains the machine whereas the older units (control to the right of the door) have a dedicated electric drain pump. I think the style is very attractive, but EdgeStar likes their silver color, and I prefer white. Avanti also makes the same unit, but at around $333 for white, I'm good with silver. The guts should have been under the machine all along, I'd hate to work on these though, even the older ones were a bear. I'd like to see a windowed door, but I'll take that extra space any day.
-Tim
I have been looking at these as well Jamie. It's the new version of the Danby/Koldfront/EdgeStar units and I think it's inline to replace them. It has a more compact pump and I believe it's a reversing main pump that also drains the machine whereas the older units (control to the right of the door) have a dedicated electric drain pump. I think the style is very attractive, but EdgeStar likes their silver color, and I prefer white. Avanti also makes the same unit, but at around $333 for white, I'm good with silver. The guts should have been under the machine all along, I'd hate to work on these though, even the older ones were a bear. I'd like to see a windowed door, but I'll take that extra space any day.
-Tim
mistereric
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We have a Danby here at the office, similar model to GadgetGary, and its been a trooper. At least one cycle every weekday for about 5 years now. The inlet screen in the sump does need to be cleaned once every few months, and I had to reseal the window with some caulking but for a machine we got for $40, its not bad. Hooked up to cold water, and always has SaniWash on to heat the water, coffee mugs are too hot to touch when it finishes the cycle.
Chris, I used to have a machine similar to your Lemair, mine was badged as a Husqvarna although I think it was more basic than yours, with only one rocker switch. It died blowing out sparks, as there appeared to be a long term leak onto the motor, the field coils were literally disintegrating with rust!
The Danby looks very similar to the discontinued Bosch tabletop machine, so much so that I wonder if it is a modified version of that - I own one of these, badged as a Hotpoint. It's a bit noisier than full sized machines, although having no kitchen units by its side probably doesn't help, and the detergent dispenser sometimes gets held shut by tall items if you don't load it carefully. But it does do the job well, and is far preferable to hand washing!
The Danby looks very similar to the discontinued Bosch tabletop machine, so much so that I wonder if it is a modified version of that - I own one of these, badged as a Hotpoint. It's a bit noisier than full sized machines, although having no kitchen units by its side probably doesn't help, and the detergent dispenser sometimes gets held shut by tall items if you don't load it carefully. But it does do the job well, and is far preferable to hand washing!
richardc1983
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BOSCH SKT5102
Another vote here for the Bosch SKT5102
Fantastic machine this is what I have at home we bought it 2nd hand for our tiny kitchen. Had it 3 yrs now and it must have been about 7 yrs old when we got it but it hasnt missed a beat.
Fantastic machine bet the new version of it wont last as long!
Another vote here for the Bosch SKT5102
Fantastic machine this is what I have at home we bought it 2nd hand for our tiny kitchen. Had it 3 yrs now and it must have been about 7 yrs old when we got it but it hasnt missed a beat.
Fantastic machine bet the new version of it wont last as long!
macboy91si
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Bosch
Now that's a handsome little appliance there! I don't think we got the Bosch branded unit in the US, but it looks like the same design as the Danby units.
-Tim
Now that's a handsome little appliance there! I don't think we got the Bosch branded unit in the US, but it looks like the same design as the Danby units.
-Tim
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