CR Test Results and Persil

[letsgoblues]

EA56

EA56 - Did you compare the persil to the arm and hammer with a heavily soiled load or a light load? Did you try the persil because you're unhappy with the arm and hammer? Sorry for all the questions. I am very curious about the arm and hammer detergent, but am afraid to try it due to lack of enzymes. Persil has five enzymes if I remember correctly, but when I tried it I wasn't "amazed". Just felt like it was as good as tide.

 

[ea56]

Letsgoblues- I used the Persil Power Pearls in a regular whites load for me. Nothing was excessively dirty. I always wash in hot water, my water heater is set to 130F. I couldn't really see a noticeable difference from the Arm&Hammer Clean Burst liquid that I normally use. I am happy with the Arm&Hammer, but due to the glowing reviews I read here I thought that maybe the Persill would be even better. I'll continue to use it on whites and see if the performance improves over time. In my opinion Arm&Hammer is pretty darn good, especially considering the price.
Eddie

 

[mattl]

I'm more than happy with Tide, never an issue.  I will not ever set foot in Walmart so I guess I'll not try Percil.

 

[washman]

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[frigilux]

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[mayken4now]

Started using the Persil Pearls, have not bought anything else since. Even on darks, wonderful. Love the smell of the laundry, especially whites after a load of Persil & some clorox. Tide fan for years, but they will be beat now. Got really tired of them with their "New & Improved" for so many years. Just could not leave anything alone. I mean, what cha want, open the lid and Viola, no clothes left in the washer after all the "New & Improved" disolved fabric!

 

[launderess]

Tide tests all detergents in 75 degree water because ...&#34

Now that is just sad.

On both of my European washing machines 80F/30C is heated "cold" water. Tap cold is 20F on the AEG and you just turn off all heating options for Miele.

All this cold and lukewarm washing especially with liquid detergents probably goes along way towards explaining the foul and mouldering incubators of slime and germs many washing machines have become.

 

[arbilab]

75F is BELOW tap-cold in Texas summer (80F). So they put an icemaker in the machine to pull it DOWN? No less asinine.

95F is the temp at which skin goo (sebum) goes from semisolid (wax) to liquid. Below that it's impervious to surfactancy. Try this test. Put a candle in a bowl of any detergent, wait a week and see how much dissolves.

Coming to a bathroom near you, government-mandated 75F showers. If you like hard nipples you'll love it. Better than the masochistic cactus-pinpoint sprays they have already inflicted us with.

Next will be, you turn on the shower and only air comes out and blows the dust off you. Cleaning up where the dust goes is up to you, but you can't use water, we're using it all to grow rice in the California desert.

 

[mrb627]

Funny...

How CR seems to jump on the newest thing and claim it's the greatest since sliced bread...

About 75* showers, I am surprised we haven't seen a device that would recirculate water from the floor of the shower back up to the shower head.

Malcolm

 

[frigilux]

Picked up small jugs of Tide Ultra Stain Release Turbo and Persil 2-in-1 at the other evil empire yesterday. Glad to report the liquid Turbo kills suds with the same efficiency as its pod brandmate. It also sports a cap reminiscent of the scrubber cap in a 1960s Kenmore. The dosing lines inside it are easy to see, which is refreshing.

Those of you who commented on Persil's strong scent were not exaggerating. Boy howdy it is potent! It's more of a perfume/incense scent in contrast to the fruit/flower whiffs of US detergents. I was parsimonious with dosing (line 1) on a load of sheets. The scent was very strong upon opening the machine and still there after drying. It isn't objectionable, really; just assertive. Wouldn't choose to use it for loads of shirts/dress shorts---where the lingering scent wouldn't mix well with Aqua di Gio---but it's nice on bedding and bath linens. Sheets emerged blindingly white, so great job in that department.

It doesn't dispense with suds quite as efficiently as Tide's Turbo line in very soft water, but is far better with that task than standard P&G brands.

I have no doubt Persil 2-in-1 will do an excellent job on a load of highly-stained kitchen whites. Will give it that test later today.

Aside: Pardon the horrid, grainy photo. The latest update of iPhoto doesn't accept the old JPEG version on my 12-year old camera. I'm taking photos with an iPad 2 (great video, embarassingly bad photos) 'til a new camera is purchased.[this post was last edited: 6/7/2015-13:48]

 

[mamapinky]

Eugene, yesterday I had a mess with the persil 2 in 1, I used a traditional top loader, a full load of sheets and pillowcases and used up to line 2 on the persil cap, I had tons of foam, it took 5 rinses to resolve the problem in my water hog. Today I did a full load of colourds, used 3 tablespoons of the 2 in 1 and had great results. I think my problem with the sheets was a mixture of softer water, and my bedding is changed every 4 or 5 days so they were only lightly soiled as opposed to the colourds that were soiled much more.I recently received persil mega color perls, I was warned it was heavily scented, I dont think its overly scented at all, but the 2 in 1 from walmart is much much more scented.imo.

 

[washman]

ha! Frig is BUSTED!

I knew it! Sooner or later he'd come to the liquid side of things! Just a matter of time!

Now if I can get him back to powder, all will be right with the world!

 

[gusherb]

Mamapinky

My friend tried the regular Persil liquid on a regular full load of clothes in his Whirlpool and the same thing happened, loads of suds. Had to run the second rinse option to get rid of them. Just used line 2 on the cap like you.
I've had a bottle of the Proclean liquid for awhile now but only used it once on a load of towels, I accidentally bought that other scent that wasn't the original and it seemed very citrusy and was irritating me quite a bit. I didn't have any suds though.

 

[frigilux]

LOL, Ben! Truth is, there's an unopened box of Tide Vivid White and Bright HE on the shelf from pre-pod days. I get bored using the same products after a period of time and tend to wander toward other things. This seems a good time to try liquids again with new things like Tide's Turbo line and Persil on store shelves. Pods are super convenient and will hold their spot on my detergent shelf.

Sudsy Persil: I'll have to dose at the '2' line for a big load of highly stained kitchen whites tonight just to see if there's an oversudsing problem in the ultra-low water level of the Frigidaire front-loader---not to mention the 70-minute wash tumble under heat on the Sanitize cycle.

 

[frigilux]

Washed a near-capacity load of highly stained kitchen and personal whites last night with Persil 2-in-1, using the standard/medium load dosage (line '2' in the cap). No liquid chlorine bleach or other additives were used. Cycle: Sanitize; Heavy Soil setting. Water: Very soft.

The wash tumble for aforementioned cycle is 70 minutes in length, with water gradually heated to around 150 degrees. No sign of oversudsing 30 minutes into the cycle. Checked in again about 60 minutes into the tumble and half the tub was filled with suds! The excess suds protocol was not triggered, as tumbling during the drain/balancing seemed to take care of most of it. The 2nd (final) rinse had enough suds in it that I added an extra rinse. The 3rd rinse had only trace amounts of suds, so my hat's off to Persil's abilities in that department.

As with Tide pods and liquid Tide Ultra Stain Release, the only stains Persil didn't vanquish were of the "orange grease" variety---specifically, from a can of Hormel's Chili With No Beans. Coffee, tea, chocolate, ketchup, mustard, Worcestershire sauce, grass, ground-in dirt and other stains were completely removed.

If you don't mind the lingering, assertive scent, Persil 2-in-1 is definitely a strong performer.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Eugene, Thanks for subjecting your machines to the terrors and trials of new detergents and new formulations to deliver suds reports to us. They are as valuable as the traffic reports during rush hours.

Liquid Tide HE seems to work well for sheets in the SQ FL, but after your report, I am going to find some liquid TIDE HE Turbo Clean and try it on towels instead of Persil Powder, just to see if it performs as well, suds-wise, as the more expensive product.

 

[jerrod6]

I use the regular pro clean liquid but only for colors, so the temperatures don't exceed 120F.  I don't have any trouble with suds.  For whites or heavy soil I prefer the Perls because they contain a large dose of oxygen bleach.  I wash these at temps between 120F and 190F and there are't too many suds.  There are some at 190F but they just about disappear in the first cold rinse.  I understand why the Perls did not perform well at 75F.  I think the water was too cold to actually get it to dissolve since I think it is primarily intended to be used in hotter water.

 

I have about 1/2 bottle of the regular liquid, and Henkel just sent me a coupon for $5 off my next purchase so I guess I will try this 2n1 next.

 

[frigilux]

Tom-- I used Tide Ultra Stain Release Turbo on a load of bath towels and was a bit panicked at the amount of suds in the first rinse. All but a few bubbles were gone by rinse two.

 

[passatdoc]

It's unfortunate that they aren't selling a US version of Color Megaperls over here. The packets I bring home from Germany work very nicely in warm (30-40C) water. I guess they figure Americans are too stubborn or clueless to stock more than one type of detergent at home.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Thanks for the report

Eugene, What happened in the spin after the wash? Did it sudslock and have to stop spinning or was it not a suds flood of Biblical proportions? The acid test of the anti-foaming properties of a detergent is what happens when the water and suds are being whipped between the inner and outer tubs in the post-wash spin.