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[henene4]

WPS

These are equipped with the Miele WaterProof system.
They have 2-wall inlet hoses, both should be equipped with a double electric valve at the faucet side of the hose.
Further, the machine has a steel floor pan with a flood switch integrated into the machine base. Should either of the hoses burst, the outer shell will guide the water into the machine base.
Same if a leak occurs inside the machine.
The flood switch in the base will then be activated, activating the drain pump and closing all valves if open.
Same happens if the washer recognizes water levels above safety limit and drainig does not reset the safety limit within a certain number of secconds.
This system is active at any point the machine is turned on.
Consequently, the only fault combination of any component between faucet and drain hose leaving the washer that could cause a leak would be both of the safety valves in either hose failing at once together with either the drain pump or the hose it self.
And even then the life long warranty for this system should cover your damage as long as installed correctly.

 

[launderess]

In theory my Lavamat is supposed to have those WPS hoses

As a similar water protection system to Miele's is also found, but quickly got shot of that scheme.

First the darn hoses cost quite dear for what they are. Second since one swaps between the Miele, AEG and Hoover TT none of the machines are permanently connected. If one is hooked up and water begins to leak will be there and know at once.

As for the OOB and Miele washers "banging", that is the reason no longer do heavy cotton blankets in my w1070. When she got things right all was well, but usually one spin out of several at least things wouldn't be in perfect alignment then whoaaa Nellie!

Thankfully have the laundromat round corner or if things come to the worse will wash in the Miele and use a mangle to extract much of the water. Can then bung the mostly dry blanket into the AEG for a final high speed extraction.

 

[washer111]

I Hear You on "Exiciting Spin-Ups"

Our W5741 on many occasions will get carried away and spin up faster than the pump will handle it, which triggers oversudsing protocol. Sometimes, the thing will have its "Thinking Cap" affixed tightly to its control board, and will either do a pulse spin before the actual spin OR ramp up very slowly.

 

Both conditions have been noted on very large and even very small loads, so it seems there is no pattern to it. 

 

[jkbff]

Just a heads up, here are the hoses my machines came with.

Also, the same style of hose on all of the dishwashers I ordered as well.

 

[jkbff]

A friend of mine uses cloth diapers but is trying to get as close to living off grid as possible. I knew she was having some issues with amonia buildup so being the curious person that I am, I asked if I could try washing some of the difficult ones in my new machines.

I ran them through two cycles on custom, sanitize temp, heavy soil, extended and sensitive. The first cycle I used 1/2 tbsp persil power pearls (ppp) in the pre-wash, 1 tbsp ppp in main wash and two tablespoons tide oxy. The second time 1 tbsp ppp pre-wash, 1 tbsp ppp main wash and 1.5 tbsp tide oxy as well as 1/4 cup white vinegar in the softener dispenser.

The diapers came out smelling clean and fresh, with a light whiff of the ppp. Just to be sure, I ran a quick rinse to make sure the babies don't have a soap rash.

After the diapers, I ran a custom-sanitize cycle with no pre-wash and two pacs of great value dish detergent. This is one of the several wash motions I noticed. I thought you guys woud enjoy this.

 

[henene4]

WCS

Hmm... The Miele website said WPS in the spec sheet. The WCS is limited to the overflow protection.

 

[jkbff]

So, I must have found a pair that I really enjoy. I can load the washer, tell it what I want it to do and when I come back, things are clean and cat hair free....

I haven't had second thoghts about this pair, I really do love the condenser dryer.

When Miele has the launch for the larger laundry for US, I am not sure if I'll upgrade or not. I do know that when the larger laundry comes here, there won't be any stopping the sales. People are willing to pay for the quality and durability.

As far as the dishwasher goes, I am stuck between two models.... The PG8083 (Edited the model) or the G6985. The pg has the large waterproof hose, the g has the regular hose... In the cavity, they have the hot water coming from the floor, with the valve at a 45 degree angle with the port facing towards the front. If I get the PG, it will have to be modified to fit the waterproof system. If I knew how to solder copper, I wouldn't be worried and would just take care of it. I am not sure I want a plumber coming in and .... Finagling stuff to work...

Anyways, the reason for my post. With this washer, I love how when I tell it to use hot water, the water is hot and the heater keeps it hot. No other washer did that. I love it! [this post was last edited: 1/3/2016-18:57]

 

[henene4]

Not quite sure cause there is no 8030 I can find, but usually, the PG line is closer to the industrial design. And if so, you're dealing with 2 entire different beasts under the hood.

 

[jkbff]

Hey, sorry My fat thumbs... I typed the wrong model number, I meant PG8083. Stupid smart phones.. lol

 

[toploader55]

Almost 4 years Old now,  I have a 4842 with the Water Proof Sustem.

 

The first machine spun the Main Bearing in 5 months. There was a little dance around the Campfire on having the machine replaced. Miele USA in New Jersey sent up a tech and he was really great about it. He called his Boss and said..."The Customer wants the machine replaced or he mentioned getting an attorney involved.

I had the New Machine 2 weeks later. you see they wanted to take the machine to New Jersey, replace the Bearing and bring it back to me in 3-4 weeks.

I simply explained to them that after spending $1800+ for a Washer and it had a Major Failure in 5 months of light use by a single person, this was totally unacceptable. Plus the Tech was pretty impressed with at the time, 6 Vintage Washers and 8 Vintage Dishwashers all in a glance around the room.

   The Link is to all my posts about the 4842.

It has been behaving fairly well. Although sometimes it just stops and beeps clearing the cycle and starting it over again is fine. Should it break down after the Extended Warranty is up, I will have to take a loan out from the bank to have it repaired.

Finally got the Water Levels straightened out but it still is not enough for me. If it ever breaks down I'll buy up some Vintage GEs or BD Kenmores and be done with Front Loaders.

 

http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-DDSearchalator.cgi

 

[qualin]

When I was looking at buying a Miele W4842 here in Canada, the washer was priced at about $2400, with a one year warranty. For each extra year of warranty I could add to it, it cost an additional $500.

I bought a Huebsch (aka Speed Queen) washer instead because it was $500 cheaper, had 3x the warranty over the Miele and had a steel outer tub, as opposed to the plastic outer tub which the W4842 had. At the time though, it was only one of two front loaders on the market with metal baffles in the tub.

I'm sorry to hear of the issues you had with your W4842, but it makes me all the more glad that I didn't buy one! My Huebsch has been trouble free in the five years I've had it. (Knocks on wood) It just does its job.

I don't mean to rub it in, but your negative experience kind of surprised me.

 

[toploader55]

Guess it was a Lemon so to speak from the get go.

Oh Well... for the most part now it's fine. I have to say with the on board heater, I haven't used Bleach since the Extra White Program has extra heat. It does a great job on white laundry.

And like most Dishwashers today, It takes so darn long. The average program is 1:12.

Express is 30 minutes.

 

[jkbff]

Having access to every dealer's inventory, I would have been able to purchase the 4842. There are a few new old stock units left around....

But, after talking to service managers and an engineer, the 4842 was made only for the North American market and it just wasn't a good machine. That's why I went with the little guys. That design is used world-wide.

That's also why I think when the W1 comes this way, it will be a good machine. It is used World Wide.

I don't trust products that global companies make for one particular market. Even if it is Miele.

 

[logixx]

"When Miele has the launch for the larger laundry for US"

What larger units?

 

[toploader55]

Hi Josh.

I did hear about the 4842 made for the U.S. That was their competitor for the "Uber" market. I thought at the time "if Miele makes it and I'm spending that kind of money it has to be great".
I was hugely disappointed in Customer Service especially when I got the attitude.

I am in the restaurant business. And I know you treat your Service Tech companies with Kid Gloves and respect. Because when you need service NOW, paying your bill and just being kind over the phone is HUGE. Miele North America in New Jersey got my Knickers in a knot when they started with the attitude there was nothing wrong with the machine and got short with me when I told them I wanted it replaced.
I don't and I don't believe any one likes to be threatened but in this case all I had to do is say "Attorney", and that changed everything.

 

[henene4]

That PG model is certanly a ofspring of the professional line.
If you look at the data sheet, it can be connected for a 5kW service, so it has the larger pump and the different cycle timing.

Both models are certanly good choices, though I'd go with the G, simply cause I don't think anybody needs this monster of a machine PG with up to 190l recirculation rate. And the G is way quieter.

 

[logixx]

I wouldn't mind having that monster of a dishwasher in my kitchen.

 

[laundromat]

I have the 1999 Miele Touchtronic washer too. It does great with whites and easily does pillows. Mine also has the drawer. Got it free. Mieleusa sent me the mother board, new dispenser drawer,new rubber leveling legs and charged me $0 for parts and labor after they heard I located and saved it from the dump. I could and should have taken its matching electric dryer. It too was in pristine condition but,at that time, I had no housepower and already knew I wanted the washer.

 

[tomturbomatic]

Congratulation on your MIeles!

Sometimes sticky situations call for lubrication and the reisling was the perfect lubricant. You are a great problem solver and machine fixer.

My W1918 will go into the higher speed spins like between the last two rinses with little finesse, even in the graduated stages, but the W1986 will ramp up gradually, unless it has tried several times. Then it just quickly goes into a low speed spin to extract what water it can, but it has a much more sophisticated motor speed control than the W1918.

I do not go away and leave machines operating. You might miss something great on the Laundry Channel.

 

[jkbff]

So... have used the pair for 5 months today, and aside from having that pressure hose pop off, all has been well...

I am curious though.. I use my sanitize temp more than anything else.... I don't wash denim, so my polyester slacks get ran through the wrinkle free cycle on very warm with miele color powder, my polyester polo shirts the same way. Mostly anything else is ran on custom > sanitize > max spin ....

By anything else, I mean my kitchen rags, my bath towels, wash cloths, socks, underwear... anything that gets 'dirty'. I run my Egyptian cotton sheets through on sanitize, because I sweat and drool when I sleep.

I don't run my down through sanitize, I mean, I do use a bit of common sense, but anything I get dirty with body dirt or food dirt gets sanitized... (The down's duvet is sanitized.)

Am I going to damage the sheets/duvet on sanitize? Why I ask is because they are 100% cotton. Why can white cotton / linen be sanitized but colored should be washed with cooler temps? I mean I get the colors will fade, and I am fine with that. I didn't pay much for the sheets, and they have lasted 5 years so far, always being ran on a sanitize wash of some form and a normal medium or medium low drying temp. (Did I mention that I drool? lol) I use the mypillow chopped up foam pillows and I bought those for the simple fact that the lady said that I could wash them on sanitize and if something were to happen, they would still replace them. I wash those pillows once a month....

Anyways, I hope all is well with everyone!!