curiosity

[nrones]

I didn"t actually know that pre-Candy hoovers did that!

The rinse thing...
I know you guys will probobly love to point out that Candy"s are stupid macines, no sensors, just having a stupid program going round without any correction.
Machines like that are Indesits, but as far as I know, (and I know well since I have them) I"ve literally NEVER seen my Candy (especially the GrandOPlus) doo the exact rinses even on same programs! It at least changes water level, but sometimes interm. spins are either lowered to 600 but then they last longer (in case of unbalance or sudslock) or ramped up from 800 to 1000 (if it needs a better rinse). Also it usually doo 3 normally but sometimes with no option makes it 2 or 4, again depending on how water dirty was - or something else. Not to mention mine experiment where I selected Aqua+ and in 4th rinse aded Persil liquid detergent.. machine did 5 more rinses after that (although I really incontroled put amount of persil for 2 wases), so that makes 9 rinses with no-stoppig machine - that deffinatley made me belive in SmartActivaSensors, but shame I didn"t filmed it

And I am quite amazed pre-Candy hoovers did that--seems that new machines are having some Hoover genes at least xD

cheers,
Dex

and HAPPY EASTER 2 U!!

 

[optima]

A few years back i could not fault whirlpool washers. Most of the problems started when they changed the drum design & started putting plastic drum lifters in them. since then the main problems we have come across are the bearings failing & they has been alot of problems especially on the door interlocks ie doors not opening after the machine has finished on the higher spec machines.

 

[ultimafan]

KEEP HOOVER AND CANDY OUT!!!!!!! NRONES!

why oh why oh why does Candy and Hoover come into a totally non-Hoover thread. Keep them out of this thread!! This is about Whirlpool...one of my favourite brands.

actually optima, there are still some machines with metal paddles, like the built in whirlpools, and I think some models may still have that drum. Out of all the italian brands, it is the best, or at least the most tolerable. What

 

[nrones]

what a behaviour...

This isn"t the first time I really wish I had power to delete all my posts and "escape" from a thread..

Since I can"t do it I must reply
If you read, you would have seen that actually I wasn"t the first one talking about Hoover. People here made a little digression (people do that on forum and it"s completely fine) and talked about rinses, and then I let my self reply with my experience of rinses that, which obviously made you mad, happend with Candy. Sorry because I did that, I again forgot that Candy is a forbidden theme, specially when talking positive about it.

Also as you could see that my 1st comment here was completely neutral, and only about whirlpool.

Even YOU before myself wrote about flight fiasco (that I beleve wasn"t whirlpool).

I am just sorry because you accused me of something I didn"t actually do - I didn"t "started talking about Candy in a non-Candy thread", so your reply is quite inappropriate, at least this time.

Dex

 

[optima]

I think i have joined this site at the wrong time. Your all falling out. Hope its not my fault.

 

[nrones]

optima, you are great

It is not because of you ofcourse!

It's just that I hate being accused of something I didn't actually doo, and also being accuzed for such a normal thing that everyone does...
Do I need to say more, when person who told me that with capitals, wrote a whole post about free flights Hoover scandal, waaaay before I mentioned it - pointless really but never mind....

Now I have a question about Whirlpools...what do you think of their toploaders, but european way..they are most sold here, so Im just curious

 

[optima]

Well dex where i live here in Cumbria we dont really sell many drum action top loaders only if a customer is short on space so i carnt really give a verdict i think the top spin speed is a 1000rpm. but we do sell quite a few more american agitator ones we have lots of guest houses & hotels around here but we must point out that the usa top loaders dont have heaters built-in so they must have a good supply of hot water.

 

[ultimafan]

i owe some apologies....

I apologise if my post was offensive. I had a bit o a rough day which didn't help. I must have skimmed through the thread pretty quick so i guess my post was way off the mark. I referenced hoover as it was once linked to maytag and maytag is now with whirlpool. I have seen the threads whete war has broken out with hoover and have stayed out as it heats up quite a bit, but ive done it myself so i apologise to nrones optima and anyone else who may hhave taken offense but i think we should discuss the problems of hoover in another thread. Back to the point whirlpool have appered onthe maytag asko machines

 

[nrones]

It"s ok!

I have a question... since Optima mentioned that people for hotels mostly buy Whirlpool American style top-loaders (as far as I understood).

I don"t understand why do they do that - why can"t they buy normal washing machine, I don"t know much about american top loaders, but hear all the time that they are inefficient, and kinda washing worse than front loaders - I can"t guarantee it because I"ve never seen top loader action in person.
So why would hotels waste? What is a benefit of using American top-loader in such places where there are tons of laundry to wash? Do you know something about it?

thanks alot indeed,
Dex

 

[optima]

Dex American style top loaders have very quick wash times & they can hold quite a large amount of laundry. They are ideal for towels,sheets & bulky items which is why they are a good choice for hotels & schools. Plus places like that tend to have plenty of hot water available. They dont rate very high on energy efficiency & they have a very slow spin speed of about 550rpm.

 

[nrones]

Above all

Are they reliable? Are they breaking down fast?

Also, you mentioned slow spin.. where are they drying such low-spun clothes? Maybe they are using a spinner...
And yet one more question What do you think about wash performance of such a quick time, and bunch of water that is dissolving detergent?

cheers,
Dex

 

[ultimafan]

...

Top loaders are usually rugged compared to front loaders when it comes to the way they work. They do take pretty large loads, making them good for bulky towels and bedding. Not sure if this is true, but it probably has lesser balancing issues compared to putting a load of towels in a front loader, which could be washer suicide sometimes! I'm thinking back to when I visited relatives in the US a while ago, and their top loading washer was good because you could vary the load for small/medium/large, (which I'd rather have than sloppy auto-half load detectors), it had relativly short wash times, and had no fuss spinning.

I may be a bit obsessed with the microchip controlled washer with massive digital displays, but I wouldn't mind buying a simple top loader (not a horizontal axis one, as that kills the idea of having a top loader) which uses shedloads of water when I want it to, washing a large load, and less when I wash less.

I've put a link for a Whirlpool professional US top loader, it looks great and costs a mint, yet it spins at only 640rpm, plus it is G rated for energy, shocked me actually, as I thought it be at least 1000rpm. Hotpoint did some great top loader machines in its prime in the 80s-90s.

http://www.ceonline.co.uk/product/2545

 

[optima]

Yes they are reliable. We delivered one today for a customer but i was a little concerned because the customer had there own water supply so when we plumbed it in i tried it out to test for any leaks. I soon realised that they had a very low water pressure supply so it is going to take forever to fill because these washer take one hell of alot of water. I think the wash performance on a scale of A TO G is about D & the energy efficiency is the very worst at G.

 

[nrones]

wash performance is bad

That is something that must be excellent on every machine.. Otherwise I don"t understand the point of buying a WASHING machine.. I would never have such machine if it has low wash performance!!

 

[aquarius8000]

nrones...

Not owning the machine I cannot tell you much about it but we as a family think that it is such a poor machine and it's cotton cycle takes what feels like two decades (it was timed and took 1.55mins)but our wma 63 takes 55mins. The hotpoint takes less time so that will tell you the whirlpool is obiosly not trying its hardest. Before it was a FL1012 wich was a seriosly older machine yet it washes better than another morden zanussi.

Sorry that I have not been posting, stupid pc wouldent connect to internet

enjoy

Chris

 

[nrones]

You mean frontloader?

The one from the pictures you posted above?
Sorry, we just transfered a little to Whirlpool top-loaders - that Are very quick, however not washing good.
I hope one you used at least washed well in 1:55, too bad it hadn"t had a quick wash button.. It would have been nice

 

[aquarius8000]

they do...

but I am affraid to say that the machine is in cumbria miles from here but digging for info in my brain says it has a 30 min quickwash with 1 wash, three rinses and 2 spins.AWFUL!!!!!!!