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Modification procedure

Here's how to make the modification to the newer Danby washers to get back
the water plus functionality that the first version had. You need to be
prepared to do quality work. This procedure is not particularly
difficult, but if you aren't confident about it, you should probably find
someone that's used to these things to help. Of course, I take no
responsibility if you smoke your machine. I'm sure this will void the
warranty, as well.

o First, you have to take the top off the washer. It's only held by two
screws in back and easily slides to the rear to be removed. On the under
side of the top is a wiring diagram that might help you figure out what
we're doing.

o Locate the wire to cut. To do that, locate the timer. It's in the left
front of the machine just under the top.

Locate the White-A connector. There are four connectors each with twelve
wire positions on the timer. You can see colored dots on the timer to
identify them, green, red, and black. The one towards the front doesn't
have a dot and that's the white one. Unplug that connector from the
timer. There are two plastic snap levers that hold it on each end.

The wires that go into this connector are labled A1, A2, A3, etc. They
aren't color coded. We are interested in the A1 wires. There are two of
them and they both go into the first position on the connector. We need
to cut one of them. Unfortunately, it's not obvious which one. They are
both labled A1. The one we want goes to the first position on the
connector on the water level pressure switch with the red dot. The last
position on the pressure switch connector doesn't have a wire in it. The
other end is the first postion.

The way that I determined which A1 wire to cut was to pull on both wires
and see which one pulled from the first position on the connector of the
pressure switch with the red dot. You should be able to pull the correct
wire from both directions to make sure you have the right one. The wrong
one won't pull very much because it goes farther in the wiring harness.
You might want to cut the wire tie that holds the wiring harness to the
side of the washer to loosen it up. You'll want to put another one on
when you're done, of course. Once you determine which wire to cut, you're
home free. This is the hardest part of the project.

o Cut the wire. I cut it about two to three inches from the White-A
connector next to the timer. You need enough wire left to use a splice
connector. I used 3M Quick Connects that I picked up at Walmart. These
are designed to tap onto a wire and connect another one to it. But I used
these for all my connections. They are for 18 gauge to 14 gauge wire.
The Danby uses about 18 gauge wire.

o Mount a single post, double throw switch. You might have to look around
a little for this. You want a good quality switch. I think this part of
the wiring runs at 220-240 volts. It's not a lot of amperage, but you
want a good part. A single post, double throw switch has three connectors
and switches the middle one between the two end connectors. One position
connects the middle connector to one end and the other position connects
the middle connector to the other end. I found a toggle switch that fit
into a 7/16 inch hole. This seemed to fit pretty well into the left
shipping rod hole in back. So that's where I mounted it.

o Make the connections. I used 16 gauge stranded wire. I used white
because the rest of the wiring in the Danby is white.

Connect the short side of the cut wire from White-A1 (the one that goes to
the timer connector) to the center connector on the switch.

Connect the other side of the cut wire to the upper connector on the
switch. This will cause normal water level when the switch is in the down
position.

Connect a tap (without cutting the wire) from the White-A2 wire (just next
to the White-A1 wire that we cut on the white timer connector) to the
lower connector on the switch. These 3M Quick Connects are made for this.
They work quite well. This will cause the higher water level when the
switch is in the up position.

o Install wire ties and clean up.

That's it. Water plus is up, normal is down. If you didn't want to put
in the switch, you could just connect the short wire from White-A1 to a
tap on White-A2 and you would have water plus all the time. But I put in
the switch. Good luck.
 
Steve you are the man! Thanks for taking the time to help me. I plan on rigging it for "water plus" at all times -- no switch. The more water the better. So that at least cuts out some of it. And I'm going to pass the instructions on to an electrician friend -- who could probably do this better than I could.
 
Mistervain, I'm not sure I'd do that. If you're going to have an electrician do it, I'm sure he (or she) won't be put off by wiring a switch. I would go ahead and put in the switch after a suitable period of breakin. You will probably want to make sure you don't have a lemon, although we don't seem to have much trouble with them. Even if you decide to always use the water plus, if you put in the switch, you'll be able to have it both ways. Just my opinion.

Steve
 
Cool I will keep that in mind .... are there any wiring diagrams I would need besides the instructions? My email is in my profile.

Patrick (mistervain)
 
Cool! You've almost written the whole article there. All you need now is a lead-in line such as "Modern high-efficiency washers are great but there are occasionally times when you need to wash or rinse with more water...."

One nitpicky point though: it's not "single *post* double throw," it's "single *pole* double throw." Electricians and electronics techs will notice that one.
 
A quick google shows you're right. It's been many years since the class where I learned that. Mr. Tjaden would be dissappointed. :-)

Steve
 
Steve was the water level higher on the perm press cycle even before you made the adjustments? And again thanks to both you & Jeff for sending the wiring diagrams. I should be getting this done over the next few days!
 
I believe this modification doesn't change the water levels in the permanent press cycle, but Jeff would know better than I. I haven't really used the permanent press cycle much and Jeff has had a lot more experience with the water levels in the various cycles. I'll find out eventually, though.

Steve
 
...and one of those times when "more water" is good, is if you're sick and your tummy decides to misbehave.

I'm taking the day off from work today, and using "more water." Bleh. This is one of those occasions when the 200-degree wash cycle would also be a good thing, but bleach will have to suffice.
 
The water plus button does not change the water level in the permanent press cycle. “K” on the dial, which is one of the rinses in the permanent press cycle, has the highest water level (see my earlier Post# 96449-12/1/2005-19:00 |||). For the picture of this water level see Post# 96139-11/29/2005-15:57 |||.

Jeff
 
If thats the case I could let it just fill up on K, then move it back to A,B,C or whichever to continue the rest of the cycle. I hope the "Energy Star" a.h.'s didn't mess with the higher water levels on the PP cycle on the newer Danby models.
 
"The way to prevent a sink/faucet hose from dripping where it shouldn't, is simply to have it drop down a bit before it goes back up to exit the sink. Think of a "u" shape, where one end of the "u" is into the faucet, and the other end is curving up before exiting the sink."

That's fine if one is coupling onto the faucet, and in tht case it wouldn't matter is the connection DID drip. I think what as meant here was that a quick connct be put on to the pipes UNDER the sink so as to free up the faucet while the machine is in use, Then dripping would be a problem.

"The other thing is, I don't know that there are any FLs that are designed to be wheeled around on casters like portables; the spin cycle vibration would tend to make them scoot around on the floor. In fact, if you're using temporary connections, watch out for the scoot factor; you definitely don't want the washer to pull its water connections loose."

One can make one of the casters a locking or non-swiveling caster. My KM portable is set up so that one of the casters doesn't swivel, and this holds the washer in place while spinning. The drawback is that machine only rlls easily in 2 directions. Making one of the casters a locking instead of a non-swiveling caster would solve this problem.
 
Thanks for the obligatory underwear shot.. LOL.

If all else fails, just as with a high-efficiency low-water commodes (that's "French" for toilet, ROLF), you may simply have to run it through two cycles to get the desired results.... CLEAN.
 
Re. the "energy star a.h's", keep in mind that Energy Star **is** a market-based program. No one is being forced to make appliances to energy star specifications. It's just a standard that people can use to make their own choices in the free market. Manufacturers are responding to demand when they go for Energy Star ratings.

There are occasionally circumstances that justify lower efficiency or higher resource consumption than normal. We have to count on people being reasonably conscientious (or being educated to be so), so they'll conserve where possible and use more when they actually need to rather than without thinking. The biggest waste of energy and other resources occurs simply because most people don't think about it most of the time.

"I work hard, my clothes get stinky, I've tried low water levels and they don't work for me, therefore I need more water in the wash" is an example of thinking it through. Leaving lights on and various appliances running (e.g. the TV and stereo on) because one isn't paying attention, are examples of not-thinking.

The simple remedy of people thinking more about what they do, by itself, makes a substantial difference in outcomes.
 

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