Detergent Thread

[foraloysius]

I started using Ariel in 1982, with the blue logo instead of the green one. It contained phosphates and cleaned like nothing else!

 

[launderess]

Have A Stash Of Both Scented and Unscented Tide "Vivid&#

Boosters.

Use them as one does the soon to be depleted and discontinued Spray n Wash "Pink" tablets. That in loads when using vintage or other detergents that lack enzymes and or oxygen bleach. For this purpose they work rather well in added the extra "oomph" to get things clean.

While not really needed with a good activated oxygen bleach and enzyme containing powder detergent such as Persil or Tide, the purpose of these pods is mainly for use with liquid or gel detergents that do not contain bleaches. Tide has adverts showing a bottle of Tide "Vivid" + the stain booster packets. The small amount of washing soda some of these pods contain is just enough to boost the pH level of wash water (alkaline) to provide better cleaning of some soils and stains. Again this is mostly for liquid detergents that tend to be near neutral.

With liquid or gel detergents almost totally replacing powders in some markets you can understand the need for this sort of product.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn't Ariel Ultra/Futur contain phosphates too? I don't remember the blue logo only except on Handwash powder.

 

[foraloysius]

Ultra/Futur had a green logo. The green logo meant no phosphates.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Oh in that case Ariel been using zeolites for some years then before Persil. Sodium tripolyphosphate was in Persil colour tablets and Persil Bio with the gel when they were first launched but now are completely zeolite.

 

[liamy1]

Yeah you don't see Persil bringing out add on products d

Persil did have an add on product, but it was a disaster and very, very quickly pulled from the market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persil_Power

 

[liberatordeluxe]

It must have been pulled off the market pretty quick as I never saw it in the supermarkets.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Some of the current detergents here I am using minus the almat which I haven't photographed.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Henkel Persil

 

[liamy1]

It must have been pulled off the market pretty quick

Yes it was, within about a 6 months.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Any idea who make Sainsbury's, Tesco or Waitrose own brand detergents? Says on the back made in the UK but that could be anywhere.

 

[optima]

Own Brands

Robert Mcbride make most of the detergents. The washing & dishwashing powders are made in Barrow in Furness.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Thanks for confirming that Optima. Well if Mcbride make them the quality should be good then.

 

[launderess]

Yeah you don't see Persil bringing out add on products d

Well that depends upon which "Persil" one is speaking.

For the versions made by Henkel, that company does offer "Sil", which is rated very highly.

http://www.sil.de/Produkte/content_all_products51

 

[foraloysius]

I have the SIL Fleckenspray, sort the same as the SIL Spray and Wash.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

We don't have "Sil" in the UK. They look good products mind you.

 

[aquacycle]

Persil Power

For those who are interested, here is a video about Persil Power

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVVOSRJ248

 

[aquarius1984]

Persil power WAS NOT a booster. The WIKI extract is woefully misleading.

Persil Power was a detergent in its own right and replaced micro system in the new products war against P&G.

It was on the market for quite a while, much longer than 6 months. My mum used it quite a fair bit and I cant say we noticed any ruined clothing but then us kids were changing clothes sizes every 2 minutes do i doubt anything had chance to wear out.

Persil Power was the bio version,
Persil Pure a non bio variant
Persil Colour as it suggests.

They came initially in a pouring canister that were designed to be refilled with an eco bag.

 

[aquarius1984]

I see why the WIKI extract is wrong. The writer seems to forget the fact that Persil came in 2 strengths at that time.

Power - compact TOL concentrated with superior stan removal aimed at those who wanted everything a powder could offer and the best results etc .

Automatic - big box regular everyday powder that everyones mum's used and knew well. The image of value, great cleaning but no great promises.

 

[aquacycle]

Rob, out of interest, what detergent "replaced" Persil Power? Did they go back to Microsystem after that or did they launch something totally new?

 

[aquarius1984]

Power was replaced at the time when Persil Performance came in and although the dosage on that was reduced although they did run a Persil 'Compact' for a while I have the storage tins which that was sold in.

Remeber the Persil packets on the Hotpoint WMseries brochures.......

Persil compact in the waxed paper bags.

 

[liberatordeluxe]

Was Persil Performance the name of the liquid in 1997? Came in 1.5litre bottles think it was £2.99 or something like that.

 

[aquarius1984]

Performance was the name applied to all Bio variants liquid, powder, compact, tablets.

 

[optima]

Persil Performance

Persil Performance & Hotpoint promotion

 

[hoover1100]

Persil Performance

Last time I remember buying a box was in 2002, but at the time I thought it must have been old stock as I'm sure they had already introduced the new packaging and the Aloe Vera variant and such. Can anyone confirm when exactly the performance label was dropped?

I do remember at the time thinking the picture of the persil 'mum' on the back in her Agent Scully from the X-files style polyester trouser suit was incredibly 90s for 2002!

Matt

 

[liamy1]

what detergent "replaced" Persil Power?

Whilst searching around the internet (trying to avoid wiki, thanks Aquarius1984 for the info) apparently what replaced Power was something called New Generation persil - according to the BBC anyway.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/business-13285504

 

[aquacycle]

Matt, wasn't it around the time of Persil Performance that they started advertising the non-bio as "the original Non Bio"?

 

[aquarius1984]

Persil The Original - Non Bio

I think its wording is misleading to suggest Persil had the first non bio but when you look at the way it was phrased on the packets I think it simply means,

Persil
The Original, (as in original (regular) Persil formulation with no enzymes).... (that happens to be) Non Bio.

DO I make sense?

and this term was first used in 1984 when Persil New System caused grief with half the nations mothers and grannies and they had to reintroduce an non enzymatic powder.

New Generation Persil was the Beefed up Persil Performance variant that offered better cleaning vs Persil Auto big box and didnt have the supposed drawbacks of Power.

 

[aquacycle]

Last year I stumbled across a stall in Leeds market selling this. Had to get some

 

[ronhic]

Persil Performance

I pestered a friend of mine to bring me some back from the UK in 1998...so much so that he brought me 6, yes 6 of the refill bags in his luggage.

Absolutely loved the scent and only finished the last of it in the past year or so.