Dishwashers losing popularity in US Homes???

[ea56]

Around 2000 the County that I worked for began discussing the possibility of some workers doing their jobs from home a couple of days a week. The only workers that were immediately interested in this were the one’s that couldn’t be trusted to come to work on time and not try to leave early, and their first priority of every work day was to check their personal emails, eat breakfast and shop online, the work they were paid to do was secondary in their priorities.

I told my manager that as far as I was concerned it was hell to the no for these workers to be trusted to work from home! All of my workers that were trustworthy and always performed above and beyond wouldn’t even consider the prospect of working from home. This was because they took their work seriously and worked hard all day. The last GD thing they wanted to do was take work home with them! And this included me too, when the clock hit 5:30 pm my work day was over.

I think in many instances allowing employees to work from home is a recipe for disaster and a supervisors nightmare as far as being sure that the work actually is getting done.

Eddie

 

[donprohel]

And why not offer access to further programmes on an app?

OK, I give up

 

[phillymatt53]

It's all way beyond anyone's control, except those who control the purse strings. I'm glad I'm well over the hill and will be gone hopefully before the war of the machines takes over. It's like a Terminator II,III scenario. I can't unsee the scene when the boy and his mom are driving in the Ford Squire to Mexico to escape and stop for gas. He ask's his mom; We're not going to make it are we? People I mean. Or am I being paranoid?

No, it's not about paranoia in this case.
As Eddie mentioned about society's complacency, it has made it easy for corporations and government to gain power, manipulate, mandate, and seduce the public into almost anything they want.
Mike, you're "I'm well over the hill and will be gone hopefully before the war of the machines takes over" is something that I've also heard from friends and family before.
I've even joked about it too.
But in my own way, I've fought against the changes taking place, determined to keep my own individuality, my own sanity, and my own freedoms.
These are things that we all are entitled to from birth.
I've got things to do yet, and want to live long enough to satisfy my beliefs and passions - without this mess of interference, manipulation, etc., that society's being exposed to.
I've occasionally stated that "Whenever I hear about another questionable or suspicious rule/mandate/fad that's "supposed to" benefit society, I simply do the opposite! - some people call me a crusader, others call me a rebel.
It's kept me from becoming just another puppet, sheep, a part of the controlled society that's among us.

This attitude of mine of course has its issues at times,
When dealing with others that have been brainwashed, led, bought into the manipulation, and are convinced that they are right, and that I am some old fart "living in the past", I've often replied "So what was so wrong about the past?"
I get stares, and silence, and rarely a valid reply.
I believe in living your life as only you see fit, but avoid temptation which could take away your fundamental freedoms.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

No, it's not about paranoia in this case.
As Eddie mentioned about society's complacency, it has made it easy for corporations and government to gain power, manipulate, mandate, and seduce the public into almost anything they want.
Mike, you're "I'm well over the hill and will be gone hopefully before the war of the machines takes over" is something that I've also heard from friends and family before.
I've even joked about it too.
But in my own way, I've fought against the changes taking place, determined to keep my own individuality, my own sanity, and my own freedoms.
These are things that we all are entitled to from birth.
I've got things to do yet, and want to live long enough to satisfy my beliefs and passions - without this mess of interference, manipulation, etc., that society's being exposed to.
I've occasionally stated that "Whenever I hear about another questionable or suspicious rule/mandate/fad that's "supposed to" benefit society, I simply do the opposite! - some people call me a crusader, others call me a rebel.
It's kept me from becoming just another puppet, sheep, a part of the controlled society that's among us.

This attitude of mine of course has its issues at times,
When dealing with others that have been brainwashed, led, bought into the manipulation, and are convinced that they are right, and that I am some old fart "living in the past", I've often replied "So what was so wrong about the past?"
I get stares, and silence, and rarely a valid reply.
I believe in living your life as only you see fit, but avoid temptation which could take away your fundamental freedoms.

Unfortunately I get and find myself doing a lot of an opposite of something too that I don't agree with... However some do the opposite of what I expect, too, thus creating such conflict... My terminology for that is nothing more than Conformist and Non-Conformist...

Truth is, feelings in a moment of those situations are very short-sighted and often result in how your future can be, maybe robbing you of in a positive way... Short term decisions must always have thought towards long term consideration... A decision in conflict in order to keep peace and maintain comfort, that damages, can take a lifetime to repair...

Anyway,, to get back on our topic:

There is one place where a dishwasher was never popular, and that is the house that I grew up in... We went from a portable available in white only BOL Grant's Bradford to when it broke after a few years, years of washing dishes by hand... Mainly my dad did them and to this day he is the only one who enjoys it, and never does wear, and never even has, worn gloves...

We did inherit my grandmother's BOL Kenmore just for it to break down shortly after we got it, barely lasting about fiver years... So it is just used as a countertop & keeping odds and ends of plastic ware in side it...

A few neighbors, as I was growing up, did not have dishwashers either, although some did... And a few probably quit using their dishwashers judging they could get a lot more done by hand, despite that unused appliance still being there, or maybe gathering a few defects of which not worth bothering with time or cost of repairs...

My mother even drove me out to this all you can eat sort of buffet place at the mall wanting me to be a bus boy and wanting me to wash dishes there (maybe she saw a newspaper ad for it) and was making me do a few trial loads at home just to tell me "if I had a job washing dishes, this would not be acceptable and I would have to do a lot over"...

However driving me over there and meeting with the manager and my "little boy self" being someone he wouldn't even hire to take the garbage out didn't really get the job there... If I was smart, I would have just gone to the Harmony House or Sam Goody record stores and filled out app's there...

I did work at Burger King so that meant washing trays, and of course the myriad kitchen ware and food handling utensils, and occasionally despite the elbow grease I gave everything, the tough boss we had, (who months later joined the Navy) handed me back a few of those "do over again's"...

There was also a temp job I did at an automotive manufacturing plant cafeteria, (which was less than a week) that was washing dishes there, too...

 

[iamautistic1996]

Where I live, it has a dishwasher. Yes, I do use it. It's a Whirlpool, BTW. Before y'all ask, I'm not the one that bought it.

 

[vacerator]

In many work from home places since covid with the return to the offices situations; Our son for example has an hour commute each way in moderate traffic. They first wanted a return to the office 3 days, now four. He often gets there early before the big rush hour so he can leave earlier and miss it in the afternoon.
Construction has increased his commute by at least a half hour each way since spring. He often finds no cubicle available to work in, and a few employees are loud and disruptive. This is a major global firm. He's a software developer. His boss is in agreement that it is counter productive for productive employees in lost work time in the commute. He's back to going in 2 or 3 days or for important meetings.

 

[iamautistic1996]

In many work from home places since covid with the return to the offices situations; Our son for example has an hour commute each way in moderate traffic. They first wanted a return to the office 3 days, now four. He often gets there early before the big rush hour so he can leave earlier and miss it in the afternoon.
Construction has increased his commute by at least a half hour each way since spring. He often finds no cubicle available to work in, and a few employees are loud and disruptive. This is a major global firm. He's a software developer. His boss is in agreement that it is counter productive for productive employees in lost work time in the commute. He's back to going in 2 or 3 days or for important meetings.

What does this post have to do with anything?

 

[Alan]

I heard on the tv news tonight that several corporations are gearing up to employ A.I. systems, which they say will cost thousands of employees their jobs.
Amazon is one of them, planning to let go thousands from it's coporation.
Microsoft, Apple, and other tech corporations were also listed..

Isn't modern technology just fanulous?

"I, Robot" in action?

 

[phillymatt53]

"I, Robot" in action?

Hi Alan,
It's already been an annoying several years of having to answer the telephone and then hear a "robo" person pushing some junk scam crap.
I get tired of hanging up on them, I refuse to speak to some "robot", or even those actual humans with foreign accents trying to get information from me.
So... I keep the old-school answering machine on, with a message that says:

"Hello, if you're a friend, neighbor, or family, please leave a message after the tone, and if I'm available and I hear it, I will pick up the phone...
....Any robo or scam calls will be ignored..... Thank you, and have a great day."

Those robo/scam callers never leave a message, so it saves me the aggrevation.

 

[ea56]

Gone are the days when the phone rang and you’d rush to answer it to see who was calling.

Now, with caller ID if I don’t recognize the number or the caller many times I can tell it’s some scam because the same numbers keep calling at about the same time of the day, I jus hit talk on the cordless phone and immediately hit off. If I suspect it may be a legit call I let it go to VM and let them leave a message. Most of the messages just end up being some scam.

If I look up the unknown number on the reverse directory and it shows that it’s high risk for a scam I block the number.

Eddie

 

[phillymatt53]

Gone are the days when the phone rang and you’d rush to answer it to see who was calling.

Now, with caller ID if I don’t recognize the number or the caller many times I can tell it’s some scam because the same numbers keep calling at about the same time of the day, I jus hit talk on the cordless phone and immediately hit off. If I suspect it may be a legit call I let it go to VM and let them leave a message. Most of the messages just end up being some scam.

If I look up the unknown number on the reverse directory and it shows that it’s high risk for a scam I block the number.

Eddie

Well, Eddie, since I only need and have a landline (Verizon), I trimmed my phone bill down to just plain "Plain Old Phone Service" - (POTS) along with Fios internet.
The savings are substantial, because I really don't need Call Waiting, or Caller ID.
The answering machine is a benefit that costs me nothing to use.

 

[vacerator]

I tell you, in this age of automated bill and credit card paying, it makes sense to have fraud alerts sent to you by texts, and emails. That requires a cellphone. We have no personal information on our phones nor banking apps. Wednesday, someone tried using our Chase card at a smash burger for $25. It was immediately closed and an alert sent. New cards are on the way. My guess is they were testing to see if it was approved at lunch before hitting stores for expensive items. This was the second time since about 2018.
To think that back in 1995 I was still paying every bill by cash, check or money order.

 

[phillymatt53]

I tell you, in this age of automated bill and credit card paying, it makes sense to have fraud alerts sent to you by texts, and emails. That requires a cellphone. We have no personal information on our phones nor banking apps. Wednesday, someone tried using our Chase card at a smash burger for $25. It was immediately closed and an alert sent. New cards are on the way. My guess is they were testing to see if it was approved at lunch before hitting stores for expensive items. This was the second time since about 2018.
To think that back in 1995 I was still paying every bill by cash, check or money order.

Mike, I don't need a cellphone to allow me to see fraud alerts or suspicious activity on my PNC bank account.
Because I regularly log onto my bank with the desktop computer that I'm typing on now.
Any odd withdrawls are easily checked and reported.

Back a few years ago, I had 2 strange withdrawls located in Orlando Florida, showing up as totalling $54.72
I called the bank, reported them, and the bank took action, and replaced the money to my account, along with sending me a new debit card.
Super easy.

There was NO WAY that I was able to make those Orlando purchases in person on that Saturday afternoon while I was also using my card here in Philly that same time that afternoon afternoon.
Besides, I've never ever been to Orlando Florida!
Both stores down there had security cameras too, confirming the fraud.


Apparently, Wawa had a mass security breach affecting thousands of customers.

 

[vacerator]

True Matt, and a bank may and will also ask to verify card use when you are away from home to be certain it is you using it. Also without an laptop or access to a P.C. when traveling without a cell phone, you have no way of receiving alerts.

 

[phillymatt53]

True Matt, and a bank may and will also ask to verify card use when you are away from home to be certain it is you using it. Also without an laptop or access to a P.C. when traveling without a cell phone, you have no way of receiving alerts.

The thing is.... you're mentioning of "alerts" as being something that is important to know about quickly, immediately, which mind you, is not a bad thing.

However, that is not that important to me, since as I mentioned, I do my banking online at home.
I check my account several times a week on average to keep track of spending and balances, plus any large suspicious withdrawls that may happen, PNC will call me about them.
And PNC will take action on any fraud that I deem credible, if brought to their attention within a couple of weeks or so.
That fraud case that I contacted PNC about was already several days after it happened, and they returned the money to my account within 24 hours.
So.... Its really not a big issue with me to get immediate alerts.

 

[vacerator]

We also do most banking via the p.c. Matt. If we're traveling, we don't want our accounts frozen or locked out of. I used to buy travelers checks to avoid carrying excess cash.

 

[phillymatt53]

We also do most banking via the p.c. Matt. If we're traveling, we don't want our accounts frozen or locked out of. I used to buy travelers checks to avoid carrying excess cash.

Good deal.
I purposely don't keep a lot in my checking account unless I know I'll need to purchase something expensive.