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Whether lye damages a disposer or not (although manufacturers specifically state NOT to put caustic or acid drain cleaners in), I would be cautious as splashing could get a lye solution on the face or in the eyes.

If the drain cleaner does not work, you will have a disposer hopper full of a lye or acid solution you will have to carefuly drain away when you remove the trap.

One can use it if they want, but for safety, I think there may be better alternatives.

Enzymatic cleaners will often work, if left in over night. Sometimes they require two treatments. Yes, there are slower than caustic soda,or sulphuric acid, but a whole lot safer. Whether you use them in a disposer or any other plumbing fixture.

Better yet, use a plumber's snake. Best of all, keep your lines consistently clear by using the weekly flush method above, and grind plenty of abrasives, like bones, which help keep the lines scoured when the tiny sharp particles are forced through the lines under pressure, by the disposer. Over time they can remove grease deposits on pipe wall. which if unabated, can continue to collect and eventually constrict water flow.

Remember back in the 70's when Consumer Report tested the life of disposers by simulating years of usage with ground up glass.

I don't personally condone grinding up glass in a disposal, but my record in not unblemished.

There have been times, when I have broke a drinking glass on the counter or in the sink. I picked out the largest pieces, and washed the smaller shards down the disposer, with the sink sprayer, and ground them up.

The disposer will certainly handle them, but I always have a fear of a small glass particles shooting out.

So I always make sure the disposer cover is on and turn off the disposer before turning off the water (as one is supposed to do all the time anyway.) and only then remove the cover.
 
ISE warning on caustics

Here is an excerpt from the attached ISE link:

There seems to be trouble with the link. If it won't work for you, go to insinkerator.com and type caustic in their seach box. You will see several pdf files come up which are insruction/operating manuals for their disposers.

Below is a cut and pasted paragraph from the Evolution Excel owners manual-

• To reduce the risk of injury by materials that are
expellable by a waste disposer, do not operate the disposer
without the Quiet Collar™ Sink Baffle in place.
Do not put the following into a disposer: clam or oyster
shells, caustic drain cleaners or similar products,
glass, china, or plastic, large (whole) bones, metal
(such as bottle caps, steel shot, tin cans, or utensils),
hot grease or other hot liquids.

 
I have pulled out disposers damaged by drain cleaners.I have augered out drain lines clogged by what looked like "sand" from shredded bottles or just sand-the system may cope with the tiny amounts of sand washed out of clothes-but NOT from shredded bottles.and yes the glass WILL damage disposers.And I don't really want to stand over the machine throwing bottles in it-disposers do have rotating parts that can throw objects back at you even with the splash guard in place.Again put the glass bottles and other things in the TRASH-not your disposer.Prolonged exposure to lye can attack materials used in disposers-it can corrode steels.and it can damage motor sels-take it from the disposers owners manuals.and contact any plumber on the matters of glass in plumbing systems-and sewer companies don't like these things either.The peices of glass in the sink-the tiny ones-won't harm the disposer or the plumbing.But just don't shred ALL of the broken glass peices.
 
ISE WARNING ON CAUSTICS

These warnings are intended as safety warnings for idiots, but lye will not hurt any modern disposer, if it does the drain-cleaner manufacturer would not suggest using it and they would end up being libel for any damages.

 

Barry half the things you have done with disposers would be on a list of don't and yet you have proved that they are not harmful.
 
John,

No, my main concern is with safety, as I mentioned before. Lye and sulphuric acid can cause severe burns. When a partial blockage is in the sink and the disposer is started, splashing often occurs. This could get on the skin, bad enough, but in the eyes can damage the cornea, very badly.

Straight lye and concentrated sulphuric acid are both available at a lot of the big box home improvement centers. Just seeing theses there (The bottle of H2SO4, is often in a sealed clear plastic bag, in case of spills. It is that dangerous.)

It scares me to death that not only an adult, but a child, or animal could be hurt with these. You don't have to be a "fool" to accidentally knock over a bottle of acid, or accidentally have the disposer splash it in your eye. Once could even wear goggles and, if the backsplash is great enough, have the caustic solution leak past them.

The things I put in disposers do not pose a danger to humans or animals. Just the opposite..they keep "organic" wastes out of the trash system which can spread disease, support vermin and create methane in landfills.

None of the things I put in the disposer are specificaly listed as "don'ts" by ISE.

They do say "large Whole bones". I guess it depends on one's definition of large. I don't put anything larger than pork chop bones in and these are not even a remote challenge to a disposer. Large turkey breast bones, leg bones etc., I ususally break into half.

If you read in the ISE instructions is actually encourages bones grinding to keep the disposer clear. There is no mention of paper. The older Lady Kenmore I had specifically stated one could put paper napkins down it. If they are soiled with food wastes or other materials that can putrify or decay, they go down the disposer. Non-soiled paper towels and napkins I just stick in the trash compactor (except, occasionally, when I stick it in the disposer by habit without thinking about it.) Yes, before I got a paper shredder, I ocassionaly tore up a bank card statement and stuck it down the disposer for security reasons.

Glass and plastics are mentioned, with metal and bottlecaps, which, no I do not dispose of. I don't think anyone else on this site does either.

The only glass, I have ever washed down the dispsoser are the teeny little fragments left over after a breaking a glass in the sink, and I have cleaned up the larger shards by hand. I feel washing the sink down the sprayer is better than wiping it out as I have a fear of glass particles getting into food.

I don't want to argue as I think highly of everyone on this site and value their opinions. I feel maybe we have slighty exceeded normal discussion and are encroaching upon interaction which some may be be taking personally. I apologize if this is the case.

If someone wants to put corrosive chemicals in their disposer that is their business. All I can say is, I hope they do not get injured and it appears that ISE agrees with me as well as some others on this site, who don't do this.

Probably, you are right, John, most people will not get hurt doing so. But it only takes once, and severe burn injuries are sometimes not recoverable.

So I have to do a value judgement and see if the rewards are greater than the risks. In the case of putting caustic chemicals down the disposer, my personal answer is "no".

Others have to make their own value judgement. I just hope they, an innocent child or an animal ever suffers because of their decision.
 
Well I am very paranoid about Drain crystals because well I dumped it down the drain after I dumped another type and I could barley breath and it was also exothermic bad.I put a ton of chemicals down it but the thing that was really bad was Citric acid. Lye is a base and it will attack Aluminum and create hydrogen.I was very carefree when I was younger before the Epilepsy and all the broke bones and losing my leg.You never think about what will this do if I mix this up and I was never good with Chemistry..Physics and Science is where I shine.Liquid Drain-O is very different than the Drain Crystals yes it might contain Sodium hydroxide in it but it is No where near the amount of the crystals.Hell even dishwasher detergent has sodium hydroxide in some brands to emulsify the food.My Instructions for my Waste King Universal disposer ,says to grind any garbage that will fit through the hole in the sink.This is a very Old disposer and was intended for that big trash free city or something out in California back in the early 60s.It tells you all bones,paper,napkins,plastic forks and knives,corn husks,filter cigarettes,and I could go on.This disposer though is made VERY DIFFERENT than the ones today,the commercial line is close to them but they don't use the quality steel alloy that is in the old ones..It does say not to put glass down it because glass don't float but it does mention not to worry it will not hurt the machine.I do have to say this EVERY DISPOSER I have came across and I have 28 of them and had more years ago, tells you NOO CAUSTIC SODA,it mentions something about terrible corrosion and your warranty will be voided that they can tell when that has been put down it..To me anything that says poison,danger,causes severe burns on contact is a ACID to me even if it's not really..  I will be posting some pics of mine here later...
 
An industrial shredder that works like a giant disposer is an Eidal shredder-mostly metal recycling companies use these.The unit is used dry.the Eidal website even shows some items being shredded in one of these.no worry of jams with these-can have a motor up to 500Hp.The impact impellers have replaceable faces.the unit has a HUGE cast shred ring.and the unit has adjustable shred particle size.and it has "undercutters"Maybe this or the Muffin Monster is what some folks need.Heck if Junior misbehaves you can throw his bicycle down the Eidal.In one of the Eidal videos they show what looks like a small 'fridge being ground-I mean the camera is right above the hopper and you see into the shredding chamber!
 
I love this disposer would love to have it but I don't think it would fit.This is a cool Video though we have Komar compacter/grinder at our trailer parks it looks like I huge meat grinder though it's a screw that mashes trash into a small hole.We used for years a compacter but it was costing alot more to haul the garbage away.I have never seen a shredder like this now that is a disposer real close and grinding a washing machine it looks like.Look at  this Video this thing could grind a Ten Cows .

[this post was last edited: 11/3/2011-15:44]

 
wish the dump-transfer station where I take my trash had a Komar rotary auger compactor.these things are mean-will crush and chew up just about anything.The place I go to has a new Baker ram compactor.Replaced an older Marathon one.Used to work at a place that had a Marathon compactor--was fun "feeding" it!With Ram compactors-sort like trash trucks-fun to listen to trash bags and bottles popping inside!when the trash truck drives the route in my area-ask the driver to cycle the compactor for me!And ask the dump attendent to cycle the Baker or the old Marathon compactor-for the Komar one at your dump-does an attendent run it or is it "Self Service" like some are?
 

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