I have plenty in 60 and 100v.
Does anyone have a need for traditional non-LED light bulbs, the kind that were banned?
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Yes I’d like!
phillymatt53
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I do!
I keep some "traditional" bulbs around....
Particularly those 40 watt "appliance" bulbs, they're mandatory for use in my kitchen range oven.
Go one in the fridge too.
And I have some test equipment on the bench that uses them also.
I keep some "traditional" bulbs around....
Particularly those 40 watt "appliance" bulbs, they're mandatory for use in my kitchen range oven.
Go one in the fridge too.
And I have some test equipment on the bench that uses them also.
The 40 watt ones you can get at vendors like Dey. Mine are 60 and 100.
phillymatt53
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My nearby supermarket and hardware store carries them also.
cfz2882
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For the "banned" variety; 60/75/100w non-halogen,still use these in a couple low usage porch lights,a couple reading lights,and for winter bathroom vanity gets a pair of 100w incandescents -LEDs go back in in spring. There is also a 60 w placed under basement water meter when I have extreme cold for days. I have 12v incandescent (20-50w for general lighting ) all over in the mostly off grid moon shack.
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I like the non-LED bulbs, problem is - they are pretty much extinct in my area. Some people make it out to be that LEDs are the worst thing in the world, which I disagree to some extent. I am not too fond of LED bulbs, but I don't have any issues with them otherwise.
phillymatt53
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Thankfully, my main water line is buried 6 to 8 feet below the surface outside, and at least 5 feet down inside my house in the sunken basement.
Never had an issue with freezing up.
I am surprised the 200 watt and 300 watt "garage light bulbs" are not banned. I still buy the 200 watt for my garage.
cfz2882
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Those are considered "specialty" bulbs and exempt from the goofy "ban" Cats love those high wattage bulbs when they are operated at low voltage and placed in their shelter with a protective grille... 
I hate most outdoor LEDs with a passion: often ineffective lighting with insane glare and light pollution not to mention the EMI these can spew. About 7-8 years ago,local store were discounting off stocks of 12v MR16 type bulbs,both LED and halogen: bought several dozen of LED and over 100 halogen - the halogens are mostly 20 or 50 watt with a few 80w. The high watt ones often last less than 100 hrs running at ~14v
I hate most outdoor LEDs with a passion: often ineffective lighting with insane glare and light pollution not to mention the EMI these can spew. About 7-8 years ago,local store were discounting off stocks of 12v MR16 type bulbs,both LED and halogen: bought several dozen of LED and over 100 halogen - the halogens are mostly 20 or 50 watt with a few 80w. The high watt ones often last less than 100 hrs running at ~14v
phillymatt53
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My garage has two of those 4-foot twin-tube flourescents.
Plus a 100 watt halogen swing-arm desk lamp on the workbench.
There will probably never be a non-incandescent oven bulb.
When they first announced they weren't going to make them anymore, my wife stocked up. CFL's were the main thing then, and they were (and are) horrible. I looked the other day. I have 32 un-opened 60 watters, and 12 100 watters. And probably at least another dozen assorted bulbs I replaced with LEDs.
I like LED's, and have replaced all the light we use often with them. Except the garage. That has double fluorescent bulbs above the work bench, and 4 100 watt incandescents in the ceiling. I would change those, I have the bulbs, but it's a 12+ foot ceiling, and I have a 7 foot step ladder. I have to get on the last step to reach them. Since my knee surgery, I'm too paranoid to do that now.
I like LED's, and have replaced all the light we use often with them. Except the garage. That has double fluorescent bulbs above the work bench, and 4 100 watt incandescents in the ceiling. I would change those, I have the bulbs, but it's a 12+ foot ceiling, and I have a 7 foot step ladder. I have to get on the last step to reach them. Since my knee surgery, I'm too paranoid to do that now.
phillymatt53
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AMEN to THAT!
good-shepherd
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I just picked a few three-way 50/100/150 bulbs at an estate sale on Friday. I like saving money as much as anyone, you could even call me a cheapskate, but I hate LED's especially for indoor lighting,
Outdoors they are a major source of light pollution and general ugliness IMO.
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phillymatt53
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To me, saving money is just as important as it is to everyone.
Us retired geezers, and on SS now, know that.
Sometimes we have to sacrifice things in order to help maintain a certain quality of living.
I can certainly agree with you about hating or disliking something and sticking to traditional things.
Lord knows that people know I'm a frugal person.
However, as far as modern lighting is concerned, and how LED bulbs have become affordable, this is the way I see it - - that one-time reasonable investment into LED bulbs, along with the long-time savings in electricity by using them, plus the longer life of them, to me is worth it.
A 60 watt traditional bulb draws about 1/2 amps at 125vac.
An LED bulb of equivalent brightness draws about 0.03 amps. (30 Milliamps)
So say you're running several lamps for several hours at night, we'll say 4 of them.....
That amounts to 2 amps for traditional, as compared to 4 LED's at 0.12 amps.
(Basically 1/10th of an amp).
So the utility savings with LED are clear winners there.
These are all facts that I've explained in case others are interested.
phillymatt53
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I've seen plenty of unusual things being sold at yard sales, and flea markets.
good-shepherd
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Pretty much anything that isn't nailed down is for sale at most estate sales.
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Yes just about a lot of things ordinary are sellable and have extraordinary value if it’s old and unused and there’s a prediction they’ll no longer again be made…
I bought a package of handkerchiefs once, and another time, a package of 100w incandescent GE bug-lamps, yellow bug-b-gone, so anything unique…
I bought a package of handkerchiefs once, and another time, a package of 100w incandescent GE bug-lamps, yellow bug-b-gone, so anything unique…
You just reminded me that I found three of those still packaged in the cupboard too. And we don't even have any three way lights. Now I'm wondering if they were here when we moved in, or why I have them...
phillymatt53
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As far as unusal things mentioned in estate sales, etc...
I don't mean to brag, but after I'm "gone", my home's loaded with "vintage" stuff.
All of course, in working and "Like New" condition.
Collectables, electronics/radios/phonos/etc.
This makes writing out my final wishes somewhat complicated.
As I certainly don't want all that to land up in some landfill.
I don't mean to brag, but after I'm "gone", my home's loaded with "vintage" stuff.
All of course, in working and "Like New" condition.
Collectables, electronics/radios/phonos/etc.
This makes writing out my final wishes somewhat complicated.
As I certainly don't want all that to land up in some landfill.
mieletag
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It could be done very easily with good fiber optics and a remote light emitting diode out of the heat soaked areas of the oven.
good-shepherd
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Those are the best estate sales, where the people have been living in the house for 50 years or more and the contents are high quality items that use to made here in the U.S.
You might want to consider having a "downsizing" estate sale so you know the stuff will go to someone who can appreciate it and make some cash in the process.
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phillymatt53
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Indeed, I've already considered ideas, I just need to "fine tube" anything that needs attention.
I don't plan on "leaving" soon, so I have to consider future changes to things.
Certain "collectables" do change in value due to time, as well as in desirability-popularity.
Incandescent oven lightbulbs
Indeed, this will be the last place they ever tried to put an LED or some other type of light since the incandescent lightbulb is only helping heat. the oven anyway ovens are generally heated with resistance electric unless it’s gas.
John L
Indeed, this will be the last place they ever tried to put an LED or some other type of light since the incandescent lightbulb is only helping heat. the oven anyway ovens are generally heated with resistance electric unless it’s gas.
John L
I don't see the problem with LEDs as far as lighting quality. Some flicker more than incandescent if there's fluctuations on one's power, but as long as you choose a nice warm color temperature, I think they're about the same. As far as light pollution, that's due to a poorly designed fixture, I don't see the source having anything to do with that. There's plenty of old car lots with a megawatt of HID lights shining halfway across the county.
good-shepherd
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Its both.
Million candle power fixtures with no shades emitting a blinding white light aimed right in your face.
To make matters worse where two lights would be more than enough people will put up a half dozen or more because of the lower cost to run.
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