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[jeff_adelphi]

More blasphemy---

This time a Maytag with a Kenmore Roto-Swirl. This washer belongs to Bob S. in Cleveland. I have a short video that I will post soon.

 

[appnut]

That washes like a REAL top load washing machine in reply #16

 

[norgeway]

A Roto Swirl in a Maytag!

Would HAVE to improve it, a Tag is lousy at turnover with anything more than a med size load.

 

[jeff_adelphi]

Maytag/Kenmore video

Here's a short video of Bob's Maytag washer with a Kenmore Super Roto-swirl agitator. The washer has the larger 50 cycle motor pulley for faster wash and spin speeds. Bob says it has better turn-over then with the Maytag agitator.

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=YldFkZd3SWI

 

[jeff_adelphi]

I don't know the details of how it's attached, but the Kenmore agitator is grafted on top of the Maytag agitator.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

WOW!

The first Whirltag!
WK78

 

[jeff_adelphi]

I think it's Maymore.

 

[jeff_adelphi]

His dryer is a little different too,

 

[tolivac]

Can we get details on this conversion-this would be good to know!What sort of mod made to the washer and agitator to accomplish this?Its a GREAT Mod!So if I spot an older Maytag at the swap shop-I can "Primp my Maytag" with the Roto Swirl-usually the swap shops have these and other agitators lurking in their junk piles.

 

[frigilux]

That one really pushes the envelope: A Kenmore agitator grafted onto a Maytag agitator topped off with a Whirlpool cap.  It looks so wrong in that 'Tag...but wow, witness the classic Kenmore no-holds-barred rollover.  

 

Thanks for sharing these mad, mad experiments with us, Martin, DanManTN, Bob, and Jeff.

 

 

 

[yogitunes]

yeah, the RotoSwirl seems to work best in a Maytag, plus tack on the 50hz upgrade....

I tried a GE straight vane once, with a regular pulley, nothing spectacular, but was meaning to try out a GE ramped, thinking that would give better results, and by the look of the Kenmore version, it works really well....

 

[tomturbomatic]

John and I talked about heat welding the two polypropylene skirts together. I , too, am curious about how this was done.

 

[tolivac]

Be neat to see a video of how this was done!

 

[lorainfurniture]

I saw that set in bob's garage. The dryer is pretty well done, he transferred the entire top of an older model on a newer base. He said that the wiring was pretty straightforward

 

[kb0nes]

heat welding the two polypropylene skirts together

Tom, thermoforming plastics generally weld fairly well and it's a pretty simple thing to do. Polypropylene is one of the easier plastics to weld too. We have a plastic welding setup here at the machine shop. Years ago we made a number of tanks and fixtures all from Polypro for a local semiconductor manufacturer. Years ago I worked with a local motorcycle shop and we welded broken fairings, most of this was ABS (easy) or Nylon (not so easy).

A plastic welder is basically a concentrated heat gun that looks like a large pencil-style soldering iron. They will use either compressed air or nitrogen or other inert gas which the element heats to as much as 900 deg F. Often times there is a tip that has a plate that helps press the filler material into the weld area.

Joint design is very important for plastic welding. The filler material goes soft (plastic state) but never really flows like when welding metals. It is important to get a close fitting joint. Provided two agitators could be fit together decently they could be welded easily and securely. Dr. Frankenstein the lab is calling!