Duet set are slowly starting to show signals of replacement

[pierreandreply4]

hello to all aw members,

My duet set are slowly starting to show signals of replacement after 8 years of use 2004 to 2011, time and the set i am planing to buy for my mom. And me if they show thats its time to replace them will be a rebadge whirlpool washer dryer set eather roper or estate the set in this picture to be precise and i have a few things that i would like to point if members have recomendations

1- no suggesting to go with a front load washer i went a good old fashion top load with agitator

2 no suggesting models with a lid lock as i went to be able to set the wash dial to a certain wash time.

Brands i am thinking of buying are

1-Inglis non lid lock model

2-estate (*rebadge whirlpool model in picture)

3- roper with matching dryer

4- huebesch model (ZWN432) with matching dryer if they are on sale and at a resnable price

5 amana washer dryer set

and also please note that every 2 months or twice a week i have to wash a pet bed and sometime may need to have clothes soak all night if stain thank you very much and all advice welcome.

 

[aquarius1984]

Well not sure why you dont want another FL.

1.They take pet bedding more easily as you dont have to wrap it around an agitator.

2.FL's wash stains away without having to soak, pre treat and mess around if you use HOT/WARM cycles with POWDERED detergent which is better for machines. Dont see the point of having a washer if you have to soak things over night in gallons of water which is a huge waste.

3.TL's waste water and cost more to run.

4.A FL has a window so you can see without having the danger of bypassing lid switches.

5. modern fL's let you set times and can be more programmable to your needs than you may think.

 

[pierreandreply4]

well not for me the reason i am going back to a top load washer is because they are on a second floor and there is the matter that its a small space if 1 of my family members have to wake up at night and the main reason i am going back to a top load is because i can set the temp knob to cold water and leave it there and me i use liquid detergents and mostly wash in cold water the only time i use hot water is when i wash bedding and that vary from 1 a week to once every 4 weeks and second i for one thing do not need models with water heaters or fancy cycles like sanitize or vice versa and there is also the danger of my cats getting in the washer and have more control using a top load washer and top load washers do not waste water depending on where the water level is set. and if you look at this picture this is where my set is located and that space is very small and because the washer water pipe stick out behind the washer the washer is not = to the dryer position. and need to have the option to stop the washer if i have to go out of the house for a few hours as i do not went to have the washer running when i am out.

 

[pierreandreply4]

aquarius 1984

the model i have been looking up as an engery comsumption of 272 kwh per year and including the fact that i wash in cold water in terms of saving its worth it and this is the second model that is on my list in my first post

 

[jerrod6]

After 8 years why do these need to be replaced?  I've had my washer for close to 9 years and it works like new.... What replacement  signs are your units showing?  Maybe they could be repaired?  I dunno I look at washer/dryers on the market today and I can't find any that I would really want badly. Top or front.

 

[thomasortega]

I respect you opinion, but there are some facts you might know.

I always do cold washes in my washer and never had any problem with them... of course, door always ajar.

other reasons were posted above by aquarius1984.

Remember the new generation of american/canadian HE front loaders are much better than the first versions. They rinse MUCH better, save tousands of gallons of water every year and you can also pause the machine for long times (just hit the pause button) after some time the machine will shut off completelly. when you come back, just hit the start/pause button again to wake it up and resume the cycle from where it was.

Also, you can use both powders or liquids without having problems. BUT DON'T CLOSE THE DOOR COMPLETELLY BETWEEN WASH DAYS.

And the second floor issue... well... modern front loaders are now insignificant to the floor, they won't shake your house at all.

Watch cleamteamofNY's videos. He has an Electrolux Wavetouch. Maybe your opinions can change.

More than that, the spin speeds can be much higher, saving you lots of time and money in the dryer and they clean much better than front loaders because as is uses much less water, the detergent solution is more concentrated and mechanical action happens during all the time to 100% of the load, while in a top loader it deppends on rollover action.

Plus a pet bed in a top loader.. one side of it would be damaged (excess of rubbing against the agitator), maybe it would float and some parts won't wash and it's more prone to spin with a huge unbalance that could damage the machine or even make it walk.

$0,02

 

[pierreandreply4]

well its the age for 1 thing and second there is the reason that for me in the space the washer dryer is the door of a front loader is in the way and there is the fact that for me du to my size its not practical for loading for 1 thing and the second thing thats also making me chose to go back to a top loading washer is i know that my clothes won't come out smelling like perfume as i am very sensitive to strong perfume smell if a sent is to strong i heart sneeze or get a headheach because of the detergent smell if they have a smell thats to strong and the pet bed that i wash is like a pillow case.

 

[pierreandreply4]

and also the main reason i am going back to a top load washer is for these reason

1- a front load washer no longer fits my needs when i wash

2- a top load hides the plumbing pipes see my picture in my post number 548302 reply number 2

3 and finaly i do not need all these fancy cycles like sanitize allergen or a heater in my washer and there is the reason that for dose wondering why i prefer to op for a direct replacement rather than a repair is the last daily driver i had witch was a top load inglis superb 2 washer (whirlpool) had 2 repairs 1 in 1996 a motor change and around the year 2004 a few months before we had to replace it since it was already at the end of its life use a timer replacement and then by september it was the agitator so it was replace with the model in my post # 548302 i tryed but i never like it when it was replace i was looking at the price for a top load washer in 2004 and like i explain sometime i may have to soak some clothe that needs to be soak all night 24 hours and also the main reason i am going back to a top load model is because for me its easyer loading and unloading a top load washer than a front load model.

 

[thomasortega]

Ok... and can't you find in Canada any H-axis top loader? They save lots of space and still wash huge loads spending less water.

about the dependability, they will also last the same. If you want an excellent machine to last much more than moderns, you should get a vintage model

Not sure about the models you have there but... Probably the top loaders also have electronic boards and won't be the same as your previous top loader. If you're really lucky, it will last for 5 years.

 

[pierreandreply4]

i rather buy new and for me the rebadge estate or roper brand rebadge whirlpools tends to fit my needs and i can get some conventinel top load that are set for low water usage like the amana brand washer dryer this set to be precise and here in canada the brand you are mententing i do not think they exist as well

 

[thomasortega]

So if the machines fit your needs, go get them NOW!

 

[pierreandreply4]

i am waiting until the ones i have breaks completly i am only in planining stage for when i do a spending budget witch might be in 2012 or if we decide to do some work in the bathroom but thank you for all the info but might first choice might be the estate set because my dryer is clearly startin g to show signs of failure like not drying proper so it might be soon i will keep everyone posted lol

 

[thomasortega]

When was the last time you cleaned your dryer?

Maybe with some cleaning, you can give it a new life and postpone the replacement.

 

[pierreandreply4]

its way to hard to clean the way its set and i do not have the requiered tools i might try using the time drye cycle that will disable the drying sensor since i always use the auto dry cycle and i think what shorten my dryer lifetime use is a couple of summers back that was around 2005 2006 there was a bird that entered the dryer vent and went inside my dryer so i think it kind of shorten the lifetime use of the dryer.

 

[thomasortega]

I'm here wondering about the drying times...

How fast is the spin on these top loaders?
Maybe you could consider a spin dryer too. They are cheap, very useful as they can remove much more water from a load before you put it in the dryer and they are also very small so won't take space.

Think about it. I don't know what models are available in Canada or even if they are available, but i think they could help a lot.

These spin dryers are also very economical (only a few watts), very simple and easy to use and the load is ready in 2 or 3 minutes.

 

[pierreandreply4]

i do not think that spins dryer are avalable in canada sadly but i do know that i set my dryer to high heat that shortens the drying time and even if the clothe are not fully dry i can finish the drying by hanging them on a clothe hanger

 

[pierreandreply4]

but i do know that if i op for the huebech washer dryer set in ym list (canadian speed queen) that i would get a good spin speed but this depends on the price and the spending buget

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Choose wisely

Avoid any TL WP made set that does not have a fabric softner added switch. These machines only do a low water rinse which is the equivalent of a rinse in a severly overloaded machine(not very thorough and hard on clothes). The FS switch makes the machine rinse at the same level as wash. The Speed Queen machine is your best bet but you will have to adjust the water level switch as the Eco-Nazis and Green Police have regulated reasonable water out of them as well.

 

[pierreandreply4]

that means that i would have a better choice in buying the amana model then?

 

[whirlykenmore78]

They are both good.

Either the Huebsch/SQ or the Wp made Amana are fine choices.

Some things to consider are if you prefer Dual-Action or a 1 piece agitator. Porcelain on steel or stainless steel drum. Both the SQ belt drive and Wp direct drive mechanisms are very dependable.

All I meant on the SQ water level is that on 2010 and newer USA models the water stops filling about 5cm short of where it did on high level before the new regualtions. This can be adjusted on the pressure switch. On the Whirlpool/Amana the rinse will fill to a lower level than the wash unless the fabric softener switch is turned on. The Roper did not appear to have this feature so I belive it would always do a low level rinse.

Hope this helps.

Nick

 

[pierreandreply4]

thank you for the info and i have one question if a bird has entered the dryer vent and stayted there even when dead could this mess up the auto dry sensor or cause the dryer not to reach optimal drying temp? and i think that on my actual washer i did today a small load and then did a mainance cleanup on warm water only water no particular cleaning product because i had hand wash the soap dispenser just to rise it out fully even if i did it in the sink i check with my hand and the warm water seem dumb down and both water inlets are open = i think its just my set thats getting old do the reason that i am starting to plan there replacement.

Ps: the bird entered around 2005 2006 for anyones info during the summer.

 

[whirlykenmore78]

Bird in the vent

If the bird went in the vent and died you found your slow drying problem. If a bird died in the vent his remains are catching lint and the whole thing is plugged up. Your dryer isn't broke it just needs to breathe. As far as the sensor dry the sensor monitors the moisture in the laundry as it dries. After the clothes reach a certain dryness level the dryer runs for a predetermined number of minutes based on the dryness level you selected. Once this is completed the dryer cools down and shuts off. If the vent is clogged the alloted time for these 2 phases of the cycle may not be adequate due to lack of airflow.

As far as the washer goes if you felt the water before or during the heating phase of the cycle it would fell dumbed down as it has not yet heated to it's target temp. Once again I don't think it's broke just had not heated up yet.

Any other questions let me know.
Nick

 

[pierreandreply4]

thanks for the info and the particular washer model i have do not have a water heater as it do not have a sanitize cycle but the clothe staying abit damp happens 1% of the time but not always put for anyone 's info the replacement of the set on short term bases is plan and on long term it will depend if for exemple the bathroom is repainted and the color of the washer dryer thats kind of cream color no longer fits and that we need to replace them still with tl model that are white on white they will but i apreciate all the info.

 

[thomasortega]

Vey important information you gave us about this bird in you dryer's vent...

If you don't clean the vent, the new dryer won't work well too...

Make a simple test.

Your dryer is electric, right? remove the vent and run a cycle. Don't worry about it (a single cycle won't fill your house with lint).

If the cycle ends much faster, then you have a huge problem that has to be solved before thinking about a new dryer.

DO NOT DO THIS TEST IF YOUR DRYER IS GAS!!!!! Well, you can do also, but let all windows open and avoid staying next to the dryer during the cycle. Carbon monoxide is very dangerous and kills, but again, only a test load won't be the worst thing in the world, just don't forget to have all windows open.

 

[mark_wpduet]

Yes! Dryers that can "breathe" dry clothes pretty fast!

I can ALWAYS tell when I need to clean my vent! I wish I had a dryer that just was on an outside all and went STRAIGHT out, but that's not the case as mine goes straight up and out the roof. It's really amazing how you can look at your roof and get a ladder, climb up and get on the roof and you find yourself thinking, "this was a mistake", because the roof pitch is SOOO steep!

I actually have this long telescoping wand and I put a brush on the end of and stand on a ladder to clean the exhaust cap with that after I've used the lint eater from the inside up. The exhaust cap is at the very top of the roof and hard to get to unless you actually climb on the roof. It's amazing how much lint just sticks to the roof cap (even with no screen on there) Takes about 45 min's total and I have to do it twice per year.

Too bad so much lint escapes from dryers or this wouldn't be a problem.

 

[tolivac]

birds--not just dryer vents-but generator exhaust vents,too-any sort of vent opening in a house or building-birds will try to build their nests in them.Does the dryer vent above have a screened,flap type vent on the portion of the vent going to the outside of the building.the flap opens when dryer is going-but closes when its off.You will have to check the screen for lint.I had to do a similar thing for a generator exhaust pipe for a radio station transmitter building.One day I tested the generator-at first when it started-sounded strange-then the answer came flying out of the gen'e exhaust pipe--flaming remains of birds and bird nest!After that put a flap type valve cap ordered from Caterpillar-solved the problem.the flap would open-like the dryer vent flap-when the gen was running-but closed when it was off-amusing to watch the birds trying to peck their way into the gen's vent pipe.didn't want to cook anymore birds!If they managed to find their way thru the muffler and into the turbocharger turbine-could have been an EXPENSIVE genset repair!--or a burned down transmitter building!

 

[pierreandreply4]

well when the bird came in i had the original dryer vent dating from 1983 but they where replace and at the bottom of the vent there a plastic grid to prevent birds from getting in now.

 

[pierreandreply4]

its not in the vent it went inside the dryer because when i was close to the dryer i could hear it inside.

 

[combo52]

VENTING GAS DRYERS INDOORS

While it is not desirable to vent any dryer indoors, running a gas dryer without an outside vent should not cause a problem if the room is reassembly well ventilated. In many parts of the US an outside exhaust is not even required for gas dryers any more than it is required to have an outside exhaust for a gas range. Gas dryers only produce a fraction of the carbon monoxide that gas ranges do, so there is no short term danger in using it un-vented for testing purposes.

 

[pierreandreply4]

but me in my case i will remain with an electric dryer and whne i buy my nex set i plan on paying for the installation as well and i think that for me the estate washer dryer set fits my need perfectly as i do not mind a low water level for the rinse as my washer is never over loaded and its very rare that i have to use a large setting the only time i would set it to ex large or large it would be for bedding other than that the water level would be set on med or small or ex small if only 1 item needs to be wash.