Dyson Launches The Ball in New York
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westytoploader
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Super-cool vacuum; never seen anything like this before, vintage or modern!! When it hits the US I'm definitely buying one!
Hmmmm, one of the reasons I don't like Dyson vacs is that they are clumsy and difficult to move... We'll see.
veg-o-matic
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I don't know about the vacs (though I'll keep my Electrolux upright, thank you), but I find the man himself to be singularly irritating. Not sure why, though it may have something to do with that haircut...
Gimme gimme gimme!!!!!!
I sort of find similarties between Mr Dyson and Mr. Oreck.They both HEAVILY promote their products.I too am waiting for the Dyson "Ball"-would like to see and try it.
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Mr. Oreck appeals to me,
Mr. Dyson does not!
I still think that the Dyson is one of the ugliest appliances ever made. Ever.
I'll stick with my Hoover Convertible Model 70.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Mr. Dyson does not!
I still think that the Dyson is one of the ugliest appliances ever made. Ever.
I'll stick with my Hoover Convertible Model 70.
Lawrence/Maytagbear
Rainbow
Does anyone own a Dyson? How do you like it? I am really spoiled by my Rainbow. I'm on my second one in many years and really love it. I think it cleans better than any other machine I've used. I'd be curious to hear other peoples opinions on other vacuums. I guess I like the fact that I can really see what gets picked up by how dirty the water is. Even when you think a floor is clean you'll get cloudy water. I think that's pretty amazing. I also use mine to clean carpets and it does an amazing job.
Does anyone own a Dyson? How do you like it? I am really spoiled by my Rainbow. I'm on my second one in many years and really love it. I think it cleans better than any other machine I've used. I'd be curious to hear other peoples opinions on other vacuums. I guess I like the fact that I can really see what gets picked up by how dirty the water is. Even when you think a floor is clean you'll get cloudy water. I think that's pretty amazing. I also use mine to clean carpets and it does an amazing job.
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I've got one
Hi Ralph,
I've got a new DC08 pull around, and while I like the performance, I'm not overly fussed by the newish style contact head. I have to agree with Gansky that it is reasonabley clumsy to pull around.
However, my mum has had a DC04 Upright for nearly 5 years now, and I love it. Its light and manouverable, and it still has the original floor tool, which is so much more comfortable to use than the new contact head.
In an ideal world, I should've bought the upright, because even with stairs, it would've been a better bet.
I'll wait for my mother in law to decide she loves it, and swap it when she gets an upright version
Hi Ralph,
I've got a new DC08 pull around, and while I like the performance, I'm not overly fussed by the newish style contact head. I have to agree with Gansky that it is reasonabley clumsy to pull around.
However, my mum has had a DC04 Upright for nearly 5 years now, and I love it. Its light and manouverable, and it still has the original floor tool, which is so much more comfortable to use than the new contact head.
In an ideal world, I should've bought the upright, because even with stairs, it would've been a better bet.
I'll wait for my mother in law to decide she loves it, and swap it when she gets an upright version
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Dyson Vac
I just got the Dyson DC011 canister vac and I love it!!! I know some people poo poo the Dyson design but I can say that it does what they claim. It has the 2 canisters for picking up the dirt and it does get the dirt deep down. I wouldnt of thought that a turbine driven beater would do such a good job but it does. The only thing that drives me nuts is that where the drive for the beater in the center catches cat hair like mad. And it does take awhile to cut it out of the area since the hair gets wrapped around the drive shaft. But other than that a good vac.
I did pick up the mini turbine brush and it does wonders to furniture and not to mention the car mats. I vacuumed out my car and gawd knows it needed it and I filled the canisters with beach sand and stuff. It left the carpets in the car looking new and no dirt was left behind.
The vac does go up stairs well and will hold to the stair so I can vacuum them.
Emptying the vac is easy too but I have gotten into the habit of taking canister bins to the dumpster so it doesnt spew all over my kitchen.
I got this vac at Sears on clearance it was supposed to be 500 bucks and I got it for less than 300 at the Sears store here in Biddeford. I find I can find some good deals there as opposed to the Maine Mall store.
Just my 2 cents.
Mike
I just got the Dyson DC011 canister vac and I love it!!! I know some people poo poo the Dyson design but I can say that it does what they claim. It has the 2 canisters for picking up the dirt and it does get the dirt deep down. I wouldnt of thought that a turbine driven beater would do such a good job but it does. The only thing that drives me nuts is that where the drive for the beater in the center catches cat hair like mad. And it does take awhile to cut it out of the area since the hair gets wrapped around the drive shaft. But other than that a good vac.
I did pick up the mini turbine brush and it does wonders to furniture and not to mention the car mats. I vacuumed out my car and gawd knows it needed it and I filled the canisters with beach sand and stuff. It left the carpets in the car looking new and no dirt was left behind.
The vac does go up stairs well and will hold to the stair so I can vacuum them.
Emptying the vac is easy too but I have gotten into the habit of taking canister bins to the dumpster so it doesnt spew all over my kitchen.
I got this vac at Sears on clearance it was supposed to be 500 bucks and I got it for less than 300 at the Sears store here in Biddeford. I find I can find some good deals there as opposed to the Maine Mall store.
Just my 2 cents.
Mike
Dyson and Orecks.....oy!
Ok, I will probably earn a collective *slap* for this but.....
I wouldn't even think of getting either a Dyson or an Oreck. First of all, they are way too over-priced. I still feel that a good vacuum shouldn't cost over $125.00. The technology is not that complicated nor are the materials that expensive to warrant these outrageous prices!
We had an Oreck XL, and I was not terribly impressed. Yes, it is lightweight, and at the time we owned a two-story home so it made sense for the stairway. Sure it only weighs five pounds. It has no attachments for baseboards, etc. You have to use the separate (*free*) cannister vacuum with it's attachments.
When I looking at the Dyson, all I see is a bunch of coloured plastic. I think that both of these companies are pretty market-savy, and the bulk of their product cost is for advertising. If you were to factor that out, you would probably have a $125.00 vacuum. I'll stick with Austin's collection of oldies but goodies!
Ok, I will probably earn a collective *slap* for this but.....
I wouldn't even think of getting either a Dyson or an Oreck. First of all, they are way too over-priced. I still feel that a good vacuum shouldn't cost over $125.00. The technology is not that complicated nor are the materials that expensive to warrant these outrageous prices!
We had an Oreck XL, and I was not terribly impressed. Yes, it is lightweight, and at the time we owned a two-story home so it made sense for the stairway. Sure it only weighs five pounds. It has no attachments for baseboards, etc. You have to use the separate (*free*) cannister vacuum with it's attachments.
When I looking at the Dyson, all I see is a bunch of coloured plastic. I think that both of these companies are pretty market-savy, and the bulk of their product cost is for advertising. If you were to factor that out, you would probably have a $125.00 vacuum. I'll stick with Austin's collection of oldies but goodies!
I've heard that if you have your "heart set on a bagless vac, buy a Dyson" otherwise run for the standard machines. I will admit that the Dyson doesn't lose suction as quickly as other bagless machines, but they haven't re-invented the wheel either. If you read the instruction manual, there is a filter that will need to be cleaned/replaced in time. One of the things I absolutely hate about these machines is that for all it's hype and fanfare, it still is just a basic upright vacuum. I like to have an upright with a hose for quick pick-ups along edges, stairs, furniture, etc. but the way the Dyson's hose is attached and removed from the machine is extremely annoying and you very nearly need to be an acrobat suspended upside down from a wire to make the thing work properly or disassemble the whole shebang only to have to rebuild it when you're done sucking up the stray rice krispie along the mopboard that the flimsy and inadequate brush-roll coudln't get to.
Whew, that feels better! ;-)
Whew, that feels better! ;-)
I too prefer Austins and the ones I have-Oldies over the Dyson.Have a Dyson "yellow" all floors model that I got from the Kirby dealer as a trade in for a Kirby.I can remember one of the first things said in the Dyson users manual is"Do not use this vacuum to pick up large quanties of flour,ash,face poweder-will clog the filter"And its filter is SMALLER in area than a bag.Hype just like Oreck-I too own an OreckXL-its kinda fun to use-and even effective on bare floors.Both the Oreck and Dyson are WAY overpriced.I too when I look at a Dyson-see a pretty less than $200 vacuum than an expensive one.Another bad thing for Dyson-you have to send it to a servicecenter to replace the roller brush or belt.Both DO WEAR OUT.Other machines allow to change these yourself-or the local vac tech.I think the Oreck "hip-vac" canister is useless-the thing spits out the dust it just picked up!! for you to pick up again.Its also funny that you see the Dyson machine displayed with the "economy" machines at BB,Sears,etc.If it such a great vac-should it be displayed and demo-ed by itself?I tried the one I have-doesn't overly impress me-the dust it picks up only amounts to what you could shake out of a salt shaker.cleaned its filter and cleaned out its dump bin.Its dust cup was sort of nasty-and its beater bar was wrapped up with carpet strings-cleaned them out-and still wasn't all that great.My bagged machines outdo it.The Dydons are sure pretty though.
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Wow...you have to have it serviced to replace a mere belt?? I'm thinking that machine will go the same way as the Fantom (popular in the mid/late-90's); many people complained about the fact that there were too many small plastic parts to break off and it led a quick demise!! Also, the Dyson has a flimsy brushroll with practically no bristles, especially when compared to a vintage cleaner.
I prefer the Hoover Convertible...just undo two latches, remove the cover, pull out the beater bar, and the belt's off!
I prefer the Hoover Convertible...just undo two latches, remove the cover, pull out the beater bar, and the belt's off!
Gregs g4
Greg I finally won an auction for the g4 Kirby, I had looked at your pictures, and IIRC you mentioned how much you liked it. I am a convert. I also have a sharp twin energy, the year i got it cr gushed over it as the number 2, behind a hoover in carpet cleaning. That said, after using the kirby you can actually feel the "cush" where it has rejuvenated even the padding under the carpet. Kirby I thought was gimmick driven, tech drive, micron magic, I have moved all these terms, under the, it's a wonderful thing column. The hose on the sharp though is more user friendly, especially for a quick baseboard spruce up like you mentioned. alr2903
Greg I finally won an auction for the g4 Kirby, I had looked at your pictures, and IIRC you mentioned how much you liked it. I am a convert. I also have a sharp twin energy, the year i got it cr gushed over it as the number 2, behind a hoover in carpet cleaning. That said, after using the kirby you can actually feel the "cush" where it has rejuvenated even the padding under the carpet. Kirby I thought was gimmick driven, tech drive, micron magic, I have moved all these terms, under the, it's a wonderful thing column. The hose on the sharp though is more user friendly, especially for a quick baseboard spruce up like you mentioned. alr2903
So it's just
a matter to time now to see if Dyson has dropped the ball on this concept?
a matter to time now to see if Dyson has dropped the ball on this concept?
oops before the rant
That dyson, I would like to see demonstrated, but im just not ready for that thing. someone i think westy mentioned the fantom, our local big lots had about 3 pallets of their uprights last summer, all refurbished of course, but i wasnt impressed. alr2903
That dyson, I would like to see demonstrated, but im just not ready for that thing. someone i think westy mentioned the fantom, our local big lots had about 3 pallets of their uprights last summer, all refurbished of course, but i wasnt impressed. alr2903
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Forgot to mention that you can remove the Hoover Convertible's motor in less than 5 minutes to access/clean the fan chamber...
I posted large pics of the three DC15's on my board.
http://www.ivacuumetc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100
http://www.ivacuumetc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=100
Yes,thats what I like about the royals,Hoovers,Eurekas,Kirbys,and the list goes on-you can replace the belts and roller brushes yourself.The Dysson does have a wimpy roller brush in the older versions-the DC15"Ball" is supposed to have a larger diameter brush and a metal floor shoe.this is an improvement over the nasty plastic ones.Also the Dysons have a Ratchet device to protect the belt and motor if the roller brush ingests the sock under the bed.It would then make a loud "ratchet" sound alerting the user the brush is jammed.The Dyson has a cogged belt-I don't know what it is about vac builders and cogged belts that they insist that they replace the belt rather than you-its still a belt.By the time the roller brush is worn-so is the cogged belt.the Royal Powercast also has a cogged belt that they insist that a Royal servcecenter replace it and the roller brush strips.
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Riddle me this, Batman...
Not to stray too far off the topic, but why on earth would anyone want a bagless vacuum? They're all over the place now, and next to "continuous cleaning" ovens, got to be the stupidest idea ever.
Bagged vac: Remove full bag. Put in trash. Replace.
Bagless vacuum: Remove full container. Don't breath dust. Find place to dump it. Find a place outside to dump it. Dump it. Don't breathe dust. Wipe out container. Wait, go back inside to get a rag. Wipe out container. Should have used a paper towel. Shake out rag. Note to self: next time, stand upwind. Clean filter. Don't breathe dust. How to clean filter? Find owner's manual. Decide it's too much work. Go back inside. Replace filter and container.
By the time the bagless folks are done, I've got my machine put away and have my feet up with a martini in one hand and a cigarette in the other.
Okay, so you have to buy the replacement bags, but even I don't think that's going to break the bank, and I'm the World's Biggest Cheapskate.
veg, who doesn't vacuum often. Obviously.
Not to stray too far off the topic, but why on earth would anyone want a bagless vacuum? They're all over the place now, and next to "continuous cleaning" ovens, got to be the stupidest idea ever.
Bagged vac: Remove full bag. Put in trash. Replace.
Bagless vacuum: Remove full container. Don't breath dust. Find place to dump it. Find a place outside to dump it. Dump it. Don't breathe dust. Wipe out container. Wait, go back inside to get a rag. Wipe out container. Should have used a paper towel. Shake out rag. Note to self: next time, stand upwind. Clean filter. Don't breathe dust. How to clean filter? Find owner's manual. Decide it's too much work. Go back inside. Replace filter and container.
By the time the bagless folks are done, I've got my machine put away and have my feet up with a martini in one hand and a cigarette in the other.
Okay, so you have to buy the replacement bags, but even I don't think that's going to break the bank, and I'm the World's Biggest Cheapskate.
veg, who doesn't vacuum often. Obviously.
I can also go along with veg-o-matic-whats the point of the bagless machine-just a new variation of the cloth dump bag vacuum-in fact think those are less work-Its actually easier to dump the cloth bag than mess with the nasty filters.I too think the paper bag is less work-and may end up being less expensive after all.Those bagless vac filters can be more expensive than the bags.The Hoover windtunnel bagless filters you needed an air compresser as a blower to clean the filters and cough-cough.The bagged Windtunnel is better.
It's all a fad
and I think most folks will tire of them (bagless) eventually for many of the reasons above. No way am I going outside to empty a vac. For the most part with my bag vacs I just grab a grocery bag, slide it over the full bag in the machine and pop it out, no muss or fuss. With bagless you have to empty it into what? A trash "bag" of some sort regardless and end up with some cleaning up of the container and parts, most people probably forgo doing that in reality.
and I think most folks will tire of them (bagless) eventually for many of the reasons above. No way am I going outside to empty a vac. For the most part with my bag vacs I just grab a grocery bag, slide it over the full bag in the machine and pop it out, no muss or fuss. With bagless you have to empty it into what? A trash "bag" of some sort regardless and end up with some cleaning up of the container and parts, most people probably forgo doing that in reality.
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Bagless=messy??
^^^Exactly. If the Dyson vacuums indeed use a filter, then their advertising is horribly misleading, IMHO. We had a GE Bagless upright until early last year; it was a PITA to empty, and that FILTER...I would have to scrub it and put it in the dishwasher before it would ever get clean. No matter how many times I cleaned the filter, that vacuum was always in a perpetual state of suction loss and seemed weaker each time I used it. Same with a Euro-Pro "Shark" canister and a Eureka Mighty Mite, which had probably the dumbest accessory ever...a wand-mounted dirt cup! Needless to say none of them cleaned worth a s*** and met a quick demise in the trash. That pretty much sealed it for me--no more new plastic vacuums! I can change a top or bottom-fill bag on my uprights in less than a minute...really no time saved emptying and cleaning that damn filter/bin assembly, plus it's less messy and doesn't have to be done after each use! I also recently bought a vintage Simpson-Sears (Canada) canister (sidenote: weighs half as much as that Oreck XL yet is twice as powerful). With this machine, you twist the front cover to "unlock" it and remove the cloth bag. Again, no mess!
^^^Exactly. If the Dyson vacuums indeed use a filter, then their advertising is horribly misleading, IMHO. We had a GE Bagless upright until early last year; it was a PITA to empty, and that FILTER...I would have to scrub it and put it in the dishwasher before it would ever get clean. No matter how many times I cleaned the filter, that vacuum was always in a perpetual state of suction loss and seemed weaker each time I used it. Same with a Euro-Pro "Shark" canister and a Eureka Mighty Mite, which had probably the dumbest accessory ever...a wand-mounted dirt cup! Needless to say none of them cleaned worth a s*** and met a quick demise in the trash. That pretty much sealed it for me--no more new plastic vacuums! I can change a top or bottom-fill bag on my uprights in less than a minute...really no time saved emptying and cleaning that damn filter/bin assembly, plus it's less messy and doesn't have to be done after each use! I also recently bought a vintage Simpson-Sears (Canada) canister (sidenote: weighs half as much as that Oreck XL yet is twice as powerful). With this machine, you twist the front cover to "unlock" it and remove the cloth bag. Again, no mess!
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Boy, you gys hit it right on the head! When Bagless first came out, I thought "What a DUMB idea" a big step BACKWARDS. The whole point of bags in the first place was to elminate all the disadvantages noted. Yes, one has to buy them, and know where to get the correct ones, but if you're halfway orgainzed, that's not a big deal. The bagless thing is obviously for people who don't have their act together. And I hate to think what that clear plastic tank is going to look like after a while with all that abrasive dirt swirling around in it.
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