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Hello Glamwales!

Funnily enough I spent alot of time using an `Ecologic 1300' in Cardiff when my then girlfriend lived above the XL Fish bar on Crwys Road, Cathays. Great machine, solid machine used many times a day and the spin was superb, but it needed to tumble more on cottons washes, the drum rested to much IMO.

I sure wish Hoover was still made at Merthyr!

Welcome to the club, the UK contingency is growing by about 4 a week at the moment!

Nick UK
 
Merthyr

i always love passing the Hoover factory in Merthyr. What a great place. Glad its still going strong albeit candyfied lol

Steve
 
Hoover3060

Mark, I haven't bid on the 1100 yet, someone else has. I kow the seller want to get about £50 for it.

I can't decide to whether to bid on that or on the Logic washer and dryer set. I am more inclined to go with the set. That Logic 1100 means alot to me as it's the washer I first used when I loved in to my own flat (that exact one).

Ideally, in terms of the older 1100 like the one you've got, I'd like to waut and see if the 800 version of it comes up. Crazy, I know, but this was my first childhood washer. It has two little round silver spin selectors, not 3, and the panel is all silver not two tone. I don't know the model number. The spin went straight up to 800. The programs were numbers not letters. I think they are letters on the 1100 aren't they - `E: Non fast colours' etc etc.

There was an even older version of the Hoover I just mentioned which had a rocker switch instead of push buttons - `A / B' whereby A gave you the short spin and B the full spin. Many friends had this model which also, if I remember rightly, used a high water level for all the wash programs (single level switch at high setting!)

On the other hand the older machine is rarer and I'd be a fool to let it go! Decisions decision......

Nick
 
Welcome Glamwales!!!

Nice to see another UK member. We are growing and growing.

Hi Nick

The model I think you are refering to is the A3006.It was called the "Automatic De Luxe". It has 2 silver buttons (It didnt have the wool one) and was 770 spin if I remember.The programmes were numbers yes you are correct.I did have one of these and it went to Mike. He got the matching dryer a few months ago. I have one picture of it which I have attached.Its the the one at the bottom right. But then again there was I think an Electronic 800 so that may be the one you are thinking of as im not sure what that looked like.The other model you are thinking about I think is the 3236H which like you say had A/B on the switch and was very simple you just selected A1 or A2 B1 or B2 and so on. With regards to the 1100 or Logic pair I will watch and see which you decide..difficult decision I must admit as I like the Logic pair also.

Mark

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Hmmm

Makes me wish I didn't dump my little find...I miss my Energy Control Series Electron 800 De Luxe. :(
 
Mark, just incase you have access to a Makro store, they are currently selling the newer toploader Whirlpool Washer and Dryer together for £449.98 plues VAT which equals £528.73, which is a bargain.

Wish I had space for them myself!!!!
 
Hey Dan

Thanks very much for the info.We did indeed go to Makros last Tuesday the night before the Whirlpool offer was on to see if they had put them out yet (They sometimes have the offers out the night before). Well the washers and dryers had obviously been out a few days before the offer at full price for each machine.All the washers had been sold and there were 3 dryers left. The as always helpful (not) member of staff said...."I dunno when we are getting anymore in". I was not impressed and stomped off out of the store.

After thinking about it I came up with the solution.Im getting the washer model I really wanted off the internet now at a cheaper price.The model in Makro wasnt the model I wanted but the offer price for both couldnt be ignored.Im not now having the matching dryer.Im going to keep 2 Hoover dryers instead.

Mark
 
Hi Mark

Thanks very much for your last response, yes - that Hoover in the picture was the very first auto washer we had as a family. I never thought I'd see one again! To be honest, it was an extremely unreliable machine and was replaced in about 1985 with a Bendix. We hadn't realised that by that point Bendix was not the same as the old `square doors' and the machine we got was basically pants. That was replaced in 1990 with a Zanussi washer dryer. That was alright and gave a good clean wash but the dryer, as most dryers in combi units in my opinion, was inadequate.

3-10 days, huh? Have you stocked up on the `Ariel Twin Tub and Handwash' ?? Or do you plan to use regular detergent in it?

Nick
 
Hey Nick

Happy to have posted the pic for you.

The Bendix machines after the square door ones were pants like you say. I adored my mums Bendix autowasher de luxe with the big square door and was so lucky a couple of months ago to get the instruction book for it off eBay.....Happy memories!.

With regards to the powder for the new Whilpool I will probably use Big box Ariel or Bold.Im not to keen on the twin tub powders these days as they foam up like mad!We are currently using Morrisons Cyclone for the twin tub and that foams really badly. Persil is the worst!!......Constant suds lock!!!

I was thinking of Bold because I always like to use the extra rinse option in the top loader and of course the fabric conditioner is dispensed after the first spin ready for the rinse so there wouldnt be much point in it as it would rinse once more and wash the conditioner out.I could though wait for the second rinse and then pour in conditioner.I thought if I used bold I would be able to have the second rinse and not worry about putting conditioner in.The problem is that I like conditioner to much so Im not sure what ill do!!

Mark
 
Hi Mark

Ahh....detergent....one of my favourite topics!!

Bold is a good product in so much as it cleans reasonably, softens laundry to a very moderate extent, and leaves laundry with a strong scent which lasts.

It is not so good for tough cleaning as any detergent with fabric conditioner in will not clean as well as one with out - it's a chemical thing. It doesn't offer any antistatic benefit. It doesn't help wrinkles to fall out of clothes. Personally, I would select Ariel as a big box detergent over Bold any day.

Ariel colour powder may be a good choice if you are considering using LCB in your new washer, LCB shouldn't be used with oxygen bleach or brighteners. You could add LCB to Ariel Colour no problem. You could also add oxi-action or something to give grubby light colours a boost when needed. The new Ariel scent is also very strong and long lasting, it's a bit like the Green Bold scent anyway.

Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about the softener going in the first rinse. I think you would be pleased with the results. Rinsing softener out is recommended for people with sensitive skin anyway. The clothes would still be softer than with Bold, and certainly would offer more antistatic benefits. They wouldn't be quite so limp / lank either.

I once had an Ariston which took the softener down half way through the rinses (because it was cr**) and I actually quite liked the result.

On another note, Jon and I have found that in terms of powder, Persil is a better rinser than Ariel. This seems to vary with water conditions though. Twin Tub powder - I have heard reccomendations for Tesco own, and have even sent a box of it over to Bryan (Westexman) though I don't think we've had a discussion about it yet. I've never used it.

You could of course use Bounce for loads which will be tumble dried though apparently this isn't good for the dryer.....

What a dilemma ! But it'll be fun working on a solution.

Nick
 
Hi Nick

Its funny you mention the cleaning power of Bold as ive always thought its not as good as Ariel/Persil (OOPS Can I put those two side by side?). I love the smell of Bold though and its the only powder that Ive noticed really keeps its smell.My favourite is the blue one but then again ive never actually washed with the green or the purple but just sniffed the boxes in the supermarket. Its a strange site me going around the detergent idea sniffing all the boxes.

Im afraid im going to be really thick and ask what LCB means as i have no idea.

Ive never really used laundry additives.I used to use ACE bleach in my Admiral top loader but never really new if it did anything.I did buy a few months back a cheap version of the vanish oxi action powder. Never really new if that did much either.

Im a person who loves my clothes to smell a lot of conditioner or powder (My partner moans sometimes he goes to school smelling like the detergent isle).To me if it smells strong it means its really fresh and clean.I guess thats in my head but if my clothes etc smell nice then it makes me feel better. Im yet to find a powder/conditioner which really keeps its smell after line drying but Bold is pretty good though.

Im heading towards Ariel colour for my darks as I have a thing about Ariel. Persil never seems to enter my head for some reason although its a great product.

Mark

Ps would love to chat on msn msg.Its always great to speak to likeminded people.Maybe you can add me to you as I dont know your hotmail address.Mine is on my profile. You dont have to if you dont want to.
 
Hi Mark

Of course you can add me to msn - anyone here can - [email protected] BUT I'm hardly ever on it. I have to share this computer with my wife, and we only get to use it a little at midday when not working, and then an hour or so in the evening before bed - the reason, a toddler named Luke.

So when I go on the computer it's with a list of jobs to do as opposed to time to chat. But if I see you online it would be good to talk.

Yes - I think it's ok to put Ariel and Persil side by side.

LCB is liquid chlorine bleach and it's what many (most?) Americans use in TL machines in white washes for stain removal. Short wash times and the style of agitation render LCB necessary with heavily soiled whites. But if you use it with a powder containing oxybleach (all `green' and `blue' powder or tabs in the UK) the one bleach cancels the other out. If you use it with optic brighteners you get yellowing. So you have to use it with a `purple' colour detergent. When Luke was a baby the bibs were my biggest laundry challenge ever. No powder, no temperature, would remove those staisn and all our friends baby bibs were gross even when `washed'. Mine of course were spotless and glowing white and have been kept in the loft for any future babys. Solution? Persil colour powder, 60 degree wash, add LCB through the drawer washed down with plenty of water about 20 mins after the machine starts. Same principle as in the US - the clothes should agitate with the water and detergent a few mins before you add the bleach. This gives time for the enzymes to loosen stains first as LCB also kills enzymes.

When buying LCB in the UK, you need `thin' bleach not thick stuff surfactants as it foams too much. Thin bleach doesn't foam at all. I use Tesco value, there isn't really much thin bleach around these days. Don't use Domestos / Parazone, `toilet' type bleach. You need to be really careful with the dosage - between abot 50ml and 100ml of the value stuff is what I reckoned was a good dose. Too much can just trash clothes - it busts the fibres.

Oxygen bleach could be added to light coloured washes in the form of the pink tub of Vanish powder which is just oxi bleach, or in the white tub of `crystal whites' which also has mega quantities of brightener.

But this is just one way of doing it, you could of course just use a green powder like Ariel for everything (contains oxi bleach and brightener) and you may well be perfectly happy with the wash. I don't know if your maachine has a soak action, but you can always manually shut the machine off for half an hour / a couple of hours, whetever, and let the stuff have a good soaking which would help if you didn't use LCB. No internal heater though means the clothes are then washed in cooled down water so take that into account when deciding a wash temperature.

Fabric softener - Lenor lasts on the clothes way longer than the Comfort scent, and the longest lasting one IME is the green one with Febreze. If you're not allergic this is a possibility, especially if it's going in the first rinse, because also the second rinse would wash out some of the Lenor greasiness. I think the fragrance and the softness would remain well though.

Hope this is of some interest

Nick
 
Oh blimey how confusing it all is!!!

I think I will stick to my favourite......Ariel bio powder/tabs and have Ariel Colour for my coloureds. With Comfort mainly and the occasional lenor thrown in! Plus I might stretch to buy some oxi powder to use once in a while...I dunno then again I like a change now and again so who knows!!! There are so many different choices now..what is a girl to do?????

Mark
 
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