Electric Cars are now Biting into Gasoline Sales

[kenwashesmonday]

My Soul is the base model, it was only $16,500 brand new.  Current value at 10 years old with 46,000 miles is about $8,000

 

How much is a 10 year old Nissan Leaf with tired batteries worth?

 

I'll keep my Soul until it's used up.  I drove my 1965 Rambler American daily until it was 45 years old.

 

[qsd-dan]

I drove my 1965 Rambler American daily until it was 45 years

Impressive!

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

I took more pictures of my electric ride—not sure if I plug it in and charge it if it really runs/really works, and I do have an outlet outside I wish I brought it to but I can’t drive it if I can’t fit in it…

What’s more, there’s a spoiler which boasts a couple lights that are the parking lights/front marker lights/turn signals, of which I can’t figure out how it goes on—I’m pretty certain it goes underneath the front of that car…

— Dave

 

[jamiel]

I think I've put this out here before, but what the common wisdom isn't dealing with well is the entirety of a 24h use case of the EV.

Let's say you start at 8 am unplugging at your house and hopping in. Your car is pre-heated or pre-cooled (while plugged in). Off you go on your commute. Frequently, you can plug in at work for a top-up. Off you go for lunch--again, pre-heated or pre-cooled. Unplug, and head back home (maybe with a stop at the supermarket). You plug back in at home (during a peak period) so your house actually draws down the battery a bit to cool the house/cook dinner (automatically)...the battery serves to smooth the neighborhood peaks, reducing the load on the local grid. Overnight, the car automatically charges during the offpeak hours (say, 1a-5p; but it's smart enough to start at 12:30 if you drove a lot or drew down the battery). And you wake up to a nice day again.

I'm not discounting the "eye in the sky" aspects of knowing your patterns (heck, we don't even have Nest thermostats at home), but there's some real value here.

I concur that some of my travel patterns when driving cross-country can be troublesome (a specific one is going from SE Michigan to my brother's in SE Kansas City. It's about 11.5 hrs with a fast-food lunch, fast food dinner and one refueling and is about at the edge of my tolerance for driving; the thought of extending it by 45 minutes to have an extra charge or two is daunting). Perhaps that's what the Hertz 1/2 mile away at the end of the street or the Avis 2 miles north of us is for.

Having retired from GM, they would survey us (employees) every so often to gauge tolerance for EV range. I (still) think I'd be cool with an EV that with a full battery could make it from Detroit to Chicago/Indianapolis/Cincinnati/Cleveland/Pittsburgh/Toronto/Traverse City after work (i.e. a 4 hour drive ...just hop in after work and go).

 

[48bencix]

Tesla and Ford

Tesla and Ford have reached an agreement that allows Ford to use the Tesla Supercharger network. Ford will also adopt the Tesla charging port for new electric vehicles. Wonder why other makers did not adopt this port since Tesla was basically the first EV manufacturer, and built it's own charging network. This also allows Tesla to get more federal money for charging networks.

I did drive a Tesla at our local dealer. They make it so easy. I was only there to look at the cars. They said, "Do you want to drive one?" So I drove a Model 3, no one accompanied me, which surprised me. They do know where you are so it is hard to steal the car. They had it set up in one pedal driving mode where you do not have to use the brake pedal. Super easy to adapt to. I did not drive far enough to really enjoy it but it was nice. I tried to adjust the mirrors and ac system, easy enough with the on screen systems. No AM radio but stations are available via streaming. Of course no CD player as an option. Would I buy one? Probably if it was cheaper. I usually buy used and paid $21,000 for my last car. Most companies still do not discount the MSRP but some add on. So I will wait.

 

[daveamkrayoguy]

re: My reply #41

Wrong…! The detached spoiler was for underneath the REAR of the car, and those are backup lights, flanked by rear reflectors… So I figured out how the part goes on, and even brought the car over to an outside electrical outlet in my backyard to charge the entire thing…

 

What’s now notably missing is the front grill, which might have gotten lost if I didn’t noticeably see it when I brought the car home and luckily the charging cord was brought home after hearing what was rattling in the cockpit…

 

 

 

— Dave

[this post was last edited: 5/27/2023-13:04]

 

[askolover]

My diesel VW has an 800 mile range and is paid for so I'll drive it til it dies and can't be resurrected. Hopefully that will last until i retire. Then an ev would be fine for me to putter around in...but we will still keep an ICE vehicle for our New Orleans trips.

 

[vacerator]

My stepson jus got

a Mutsang Mach E 4X select trim level. He ordered it in October. It's "BLUE". He is a Ford direct software engineer for vehicle apps. and systems.
Just under $58,000 with the A plan. It is all wheel drive, 2 motors, extended range.
Leather, heated seats, B&O premium sound, full power including door latches. Tinted glass roof.
He dorve it the first 140 miles city with the A/C on and still had 73% charge left.
It comes with both 120 and 250 volt cords. He works mainly from home, and doesn't drive a lot now. It's cool, and he likes it over his former Escape.
I think maybe a plug in hybrid would be optimal for those who drive a lot, at least until more sharging stations are around.

 

[bradfordwhite]

Tesla to have the electric charger standard format. TSLA will be the equiv. of OPEC.

GM admits to still trying to plan new petroleum engines and hydrogen stuff, which is a total joke. lol.

 

[bradfordwhite]

Yes, it's a game changer as TSLA has a vast charger network ALREADY in place.

 

[vacerator]

Yes Bradford and

Ford and Tesla chargers will be compatible as your post shows.