Uploading from my neck of the woods is a total DRAG on the spin cycle, till uploading at this time.
The dryer wsa on with Wrinkle Guard, sorry for the noise.
The dryer wsa on with Wrinkle Guard, sorry for the noise.
Electrolux washers
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Larry
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The only thing I don't like about these washers is this: it appears the heater is only used to raise the temeprature of the wash water on the Sanitary/Deep Clean cycle. It appears the heater is not useed to maintain or bring up a few degrees to set point of either hot (120 or 130 degrees) or warm water (100 or 105 degrees) on any of the other cycles. Larry, maybe you can debunk that impression for me after ou get your upgraded machine.
These machines use the internal heater to boost the temperature.
They have preset temperatures according to the cycle. If the hot fill is colder than the preset temperature, it will use the heater to try to increase it. (but it may not reach the temperature as the heater is 110v and the wash isn't long enough.
if the hot water is too hot, it will mix with cold water.
On sanitary cycle, even if you fill it with cold water (turn off your water heater os just use all the hot water and turn on the machine before it has the time to recover) the machine will use the internal heater and increase the wash time until it can reach the sanitization temperature and keep it for some minutes. The cycle can be increased in 30 minutes or more, but you won't notice the change on the remaining time display.
The difference on display can be seen when you start the sanitary cycle with very hot water.
the demaining time will be reduced when the machine reaches the first drain. at home it happens with my affinity, and usually goes from 1:09 to 0:29.
They have preset temperatures according to the cycle. If the hot fill is colder than the preset temperature, it will use the heater to try to increase it. (but it may not reach the temperature as the heater is 110v and the wash isn't long enough.
if the hot water is too hot, it will mix with cold water.
On sanitary cycle, even if you fill it with cold water (turn off your water heater os just use all the hot water and turn on the machine before it has the time to recover) the machine will use the internal heater and increase the wash time until it can reach the sanitization temperature and keep it for some minutes. The cycle can be increased in 30 minutes or more, but you won't notice the change on the remaining time display.
The difference on display can be seen when you start the sanitary cycle with very hot water.
the demaining time will be reduced when the machine reaches the first drain. at home it happens with my affinity, and usually goes from 1:09 to 0:29.
georgect
Well-known member
Response - Maintaining Temp. via Electrolux.
I wrote to Electrolux about this subject (onboard heater used to maintain water temp.), back in February 09.
This was Electolux's response:
"Thank you for contacting Electrolux Major Appliances. We apologize for the delay in response. However our washer units are equipped with an internal heater and when the unit is operating on the sanitize cycle the heater maintains a set temperature of 152 degrees Fahrenheit.
Also, the unit has an automatic temperature control so when the unit is operating and using a cold water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
When operating and using a warm water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 78 degrees Fahrenheit.
When operating and using a hot water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water temperature drops below 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
In closing the spin RPM for the Electrolux washer is 1350.
If you have any further questions about the appliances please contact us at 877-435-3287. We are available Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m. EST. Thank you for considering Electrolux Major Appliances."
I wrote to Electrolux about this subject (onboard heater used to maintain water temp.), back in February 09.
This was Electolux's response:
"Thank you for contacting Electrolux Major Appliances. We apologize for the delay in response. However our washer units are equipped with an internal heater and when the unit is operating on the sanitize cycle the heater maintains a set temperature of 152 degrees Fahrenheit.
Also, the unit has an automatic temperature control so when the unit is operating and using a cold water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 65 degrees Fahrenheit.
When operating and using a warm water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water drops below 78 degrees Fahrenheit.
When operating and using a hot water setting the heater will automatically turn on if the water temperature drops below 120 degrees Fahrenheit.
In closing the spin RPM for the Electrolux washer is 1350.
If you have any further questions about the appliances please contact us at 877-435-3287. We are available Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. until 8 p.m. EST. Thank you for considering Electrolux Major Appliances."
I'll check between the manuals Bob!
I don't think theses machine will keep things to a simmer like the Euopean machines.
I don't think theses machine will keep things to a simmer like the Euopean machines.
The replacement washer is on the way and will be here within the hour.
Pictures today, video's maybe tomorrow.
Body is tired.
Larry
Pictures today, video's maybe tomorrow.
Body is tired.
Larry
I'm doing a no load water test and the water level is incredible.
Thie rinse water fills up to the seal of the door on the Normal/Eco Cycle and the tumble rotation is a lot longer in each direction than the IQ washer.
I'm not satified with the paint. The IQ washer had a better finish on it where you can see the speckles, this is matted opaq finish, not rich in color like on the ped!
Thie rinse water fills up to the seal of the door on the Normal/Eco Cycle and the tumble rotation is a lot longer in each direction than the IQ washer.
I'm not satified with the paint. The IQ washer had a better finish on it where you can see the speckles, this is matted opaq finish, not rich in color like on the ped!
georgect
Well-known member
Larry does it look like the pedestal and the WaveTouch colors don't match or one looks more shiny? Is it that noticable?
So we have conformation...the WaveTouch totally uses more water. YES!
Can't wait for video and photos.
So we have conformation...the WaveTouch totally uses more water. YES!
Can't wait for video and photos.
Glad to hear that Larry!!! And just pretend you're me, near-sighted, ya wion't notice the finish difference, lol.
Larry said: "The IQ washer had a better finish on it where you can see the speckles, this is matted opaq finish, not rich in color like on the ped!"
Larry, that's impossible to believe and accept!!! The wave touch model is made to satisfy the VIP consumers. It's not an ordinary washing machine, it's the TOL model The Electrolux Group offers, not only in the US, but worldwide.
Something (very) wrong happened with your unit. The washing machine shouldn't pass the finishing QC if there's a color difference that can be detected by the lasers, and the lasers are much more accurate than human eyes.
Or...
Electrolux started to decrease the quality like "the other" manufacturer.
I think you should contact Electrolux or the store and ask them to replace it again. Also, try to visit a store or show room that has the same machine and compare.
I'm shocked to hear that after being part of a team that received many direct orders saying "everything on it must be much beter than the best"
Larry, that's impossible to believe and accept!!! The wave touch model is made to satisfy the VIP consumers. It's not an ordinary washing machine, it's the TOL model The Electrolux Group offers, not only in the US, but worldwide.
Something (very) wrong happened with your unit. The washing machine shouldn't pass the finishing QC if there's a color difference that can be detected by the lasers, and the lasers are much more accurate than human eyes.
Or...
Electrolux started to decrease the quality like "the other" manufacturer.
I think you should contact Electrolux or the store and ask them to replace it again. Also, try to visit a store or show room that has the same machine and compare.
I'm shocked to hear that after being part of a team that received many direct orders saying "everything on it must be much beter than the best"
It's no lie, the colors does not match at all,
At the base of the machine it looks like the prim is showing through.
Color is washed out with a white film on it!
I have a thirty day return window so Sears maybe getting a call tomorrow afternoon.
At the base of the machine it looks like the prim is showing through.
Color is washed out with a white film on it!
I have a thirty day return window so Sears maybe getting a call tomorrow afternoon.
I believe you larry.
What I can't believe Electrolux did an unacceptabe mistake like this right with this model after the "quality, quality, quality and when you believe it's enough, put more quality" brain wash the big boss did.
What I can't believe Electrolux did an unacceptabe mistake like this right with this model after the "quality, quality, quality and when you believe it's enough, put more quality" brain wash the big boss did.
These units are extreamly expensive.
The price are locked in everywhere and I still can't believe that the dryer is the same price as the washer.
They usually 3 to $500.00 less than the washer?!?
The price are locked in everywhere and I still can't believe that the dryer is the same price as the washer.
They usually 3 to $500.00 less than the washer?!?
...That's the price you pay for the status of owner of the best washing machine ever made by electrolux.
rayjay
Well-known member
Rebates
Larry, Electrolux is offering a $200.00 on your machine and $50.00 on the pedestal. On the Electrolux website, click on support and Limited Time offers. Offer ends July 19, 2009. You will get a 250.00 Pre-paid Visa Card. I got a 500.00 one when I purchased my appliances last year.
Now if you buy the dryer, you will receive another 250.00.
I am sure Sears will straighten out the color differences in you appliance/pedestal.
Larry, Electrolux is offering a $200.00 on your machine and $50.00 on the pedestal. On the Electrolux website, click on support and Limited Time offers. Offer ends July 19, 2009. You will get a 250.00 Pre-paid Visa Card. I got a 500.00 one when I purchased my appliances last year.
Now if you buy the dryer, you will receive another 250.00.
I am sure Sears will straighten out the color differences in you appliance/pedestal.
georgect
Well-known member
If your not happy...
Larry, definitely swap out the machine if you're not liking the finish of the paint job. You should be happy with your purchase...it's just a pain to deal with.
It does sound like you are happy with the water usage amount.
Hopefully the paint issue is just a fluke.
Best of luck and looking forward to hear how well Sears handles this.
Like Ray said...don't forget the rebate form.
http://www.electroluxappliances.com/Files/Images/Limited Offers/Electrolux Laundry COSPromo RF.PDF
Larry, definitely swap out the machine if you're not liking the finish of the paint job. You should be happy with your purchase...it's just a pain to deal with.
It does sound like you are happy with the water usage amount.
Hopefully the paint issue is just a fluke.
Best of luck and looking forward to hear how well Sears handles this.
Like Ray said...don't forget the rebate form.
http://www.electroluxappliances.com/Files/Images/Limited Offers/Electrolux Laundry COSPromo RF.PDF
rayjay
Well-known member
Larry. I think it was just a fluke like George said, I have seen both the models at many stores and they look the same, I am sure Sears will make good for it. Afterall, this machine uses much more water than any of the fron loaders out there.
Ray
Ray
Somewhere over the rainbow...
There will be some stupid paranoid saying this machine is a disaster to our environment just because it doesn't use 2 teaspoons of water and asking for a way to reduce the water level.
Now we just have to wait for the first complain.
There will be some stupid paranoid saying this machine is a disaster to our environment just because it doesn't use 2 teaspoons of water and asking for a way to reduce the water level.
Now we just have to wait for the first complain.
georgect
Well-known member
They better not...
Oh my goodness...
There better not be anyone talking about Electolux WaveTouch using more water and waving shame at them for doing so.
Come on, front loaders default at saving water/resources simply because they never fill up the whole drum like top loaders do.
I'm so buying the WaveTouch (when my Whirlpool TL dies), only because it's the only known current HE washer that uses the most water, yet doesn't waste it.
I want my closed washed in WATER and you can't get any better than the WaveTouch in today's modern machines.
Oh my goodness...
There better not be anyone talking about Electolux WaveTouch using more water and waving shame at them for doing so.
Come on, front loaders default at saving water/resources simply because they never fill up the whole drum like top loaders do.
I'm so buying the WaveTouch (when my Whirlpool TL dies), only because it's the only known current HE washer that uses the most water, yet doesn't waste it.
I want my closed washed in WATER and you can't get any better than the WaveTouch in today's modern machines.
