Great find Robert, but isn't a machine from the sixties not a bit too new for you?
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Congrats on your new pink pet, Uni! Since there are no tines in the upper rack of the '56, it looks like it's actually desined to be the rack that holds the big items, and probably glasses/cups. Doesn't look like the top rack is made to hold plates, saucers, etc.
isn't a machine from the sixties not a bit too new for you?
Hi Louis, 1961 isn't too much into the sixties so its OK. It might be fun to try it for a while. The Turquoise KitchenAid I have in the Kitchen is from 1964, so this would send it back a few years. The KitchenAid washes beautifully on the bottom rack, but things on the top rack come out just so - so. Also the KitchenAid is sooooo much louder than the Frigidaire that if I start it late at night I can get in trouble, where as he never even notices the Frigidaire running. So we will see. When I first saw this new pink DW I thought it was the soap dispenser model with the pre-rinse features, but unfortunately this is not. Someday I would like to try that model too. I pulled the motor and pump assembly out last night as it is leaking really bad, so that needs to be dealt with first.
Eugene, yes the '56 model is made to hold extra large pots, and pans as well as glasses and mugs in the upper rack, dishes and bowls go on the bottom rack. Mixing bowls get turned on their side in the lower rack.
Hi Louis, 1961 isn't too much into the sixties so its OK. It might be fun to try it for a while. The Turquoise KitchenAid I have in the Kitchen is from 1964, so this would send it back a few years. The KitchenAid washes beautifully on the bottom rack, but things on the top rack come out just so - so. Also the KitchenAid is sooooo much louder than the Frigidaire that if I start it late at night I can get in trouble, where as he never even notices the Frigidaire running. So we will see. When I first saw this new pink DW I thought it was the soap dispenser model with the pre-rinse features, but unfortunately this is not. Someday I would like to try that model too. I pulled the motor and pump assembly out last night as it is leaking really bad, so that needs to be dealt with first.
Eugene, yes the '56 model is made to hold extra large pots, and pans as well as glasses and mugs in the upper rack, dishes and bowls go on the bottom rack. Mixing bowls get turned on their side in the lower rack.
Robert, this is the model, along with the comparable 1963, the prevailed throughout my subdivision with buildersw that put Frigidaire in the kitchen. Never knew a model existed with dual detergent dispensers, just this open large dimple.
Why should you complain, you have a top rack & a bottom rack dishwasher each in your kitchen. (ducks & hobbles toward the hills)
Why should you complain, you have a top rack & a bottom rack dishwasher each in your kitchen. (ducks & hobbles toward the hills)
Beautiful machine - I love half-price day at the sales! I like this door design, sleek and simple - and no latch!
Anodized aluminum should never be put in to the dishwasher...see, you need a bottle of Dawn!! (Bob and I both get a slap in this thread!)
Anodized aluminum should never be put in to the dishwasher...see, you need a bottle of Dawn!! (Bob and I both get a slap in this thread!)
bethann
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Lucky find Robert ( SO Cheap)
Glad you saved it!( Of course I would be!) Is it a porcelain front too?
Kenny: Now why would I be mad? I have Alice, so I'm happy!
Glad you saved it!( Of course I would be!) Is it a porcelain front too?
Kenny: Now why would I be mad? I have Alice, so I'm happy!
I can't believe you waited the day!
for a $10 drop! How Scottish!!
Hoot Man!
for a $10 drop! How Scottish!!
Hoot Man!
When did Frigidaire change their design away from the spraytube? Must have been 1964 or so
Big Disappointment
Well now I have the diverter valve fixed and all the leaks stopped as water was pouring out of the bottom of the dishwasher. I had to take the motor/pump assembly apart and cut new cork seals for the pump body and diverter body. The diverter valve also needed some cleaning and I had in stock a brand new timer knob for the machine as the old one was very worn and tired looking.
But I'm so very disappointed with the new rack design. I cannot believe how bad this new rack design is compared the early rack design. With the new design I cannot fit my Oster blender jar in at all and even my Procter-Silex glass coffee pot needs to be pushed down hard to get the upper rack to close. With my '56 model these things fit perfectly without any extra effort. Forget about trying to get large pots in this newer machine as well. The only thing I can figure out from what the engineers were thinking is that the new upper rack design does seem to hold more glasses and mugs but who has 30 glasses and mugs to wash at once? Dishwasher loads are always a mixed bag of dishes, glasses, mugs, and utility items.
If I'm going to keep this dishwasher, I think I'm going to need to take my hacksaw, JB Weld and Dishwasher rack coating to those racks and redesign them! hmmmmph.
No by 1961, Frigidaire was no longer making porcelain panels for the outside of the dishwasher, but the inside is all porcelain.
Well now I have the diverter valve fixed and all the leaks stopped as water was pouring out of the bottom of the dishwasher. I had to take the motor/pump assembly apart and cut new cork seals for the pump body and diverter body. The diverter valve also needed some cleaning and I had in stock a brand new timer knob for the machine as the old one was very worn and tired looking.
But I'm so very disappointed with the new rack design. I cannot believe how bad this new rack design is compared the early rack design. With the new design I cannot fit my Oster blender jar in at all and even my Procter-Silex glass coffee pot needs to be pushed down hard to get the upper rack to close. With my '56 model these things fit perfectly without any extra effort. Forget about trying to get large pots in this newer machine as well. The only thing I can figure out from what the engineers were thinking is that the new upper rack design does seem to hold more glasses and mugs but who has 30 glasses and mugs to wash at once? Dishwasher loads are always a mixed bag of dishes, glasses, mugs, and utility items.
If I'm going to keep this dishwasher, I think I'm going to need to take my hacksaw, JB Weld and Dishwasher rack coating to those racks and redesign them! hmmmmph.
No by 1961, Frigidaire was no longer making porcelain panels for the outside of the dishwasher, but the inside is all porcelain.
Robert--What year did Frigidaire change the spray arm design away from the 1-arm in the center design? And what did they change it to?
christfr
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aw man you find all the good toys...ha ha never anything like those here in st louis
aw man you find all the good toys...ha ha never anything like those here in st louis
Well Robert, this is where we meet the fork in the road. I could load that top rack like no body's business. Yes, in suburbia with families we do/did have lots of glasses and coffee mugs and other stuff. Yes, it could hold a ton of stuff. So be careful how you judge this as a vintage play toy because in actuality of the environment in which this thing was designed to serve, it was far better than the 1956 racks. And ya wanna know something else? EVERYONE of my parents friends that had these machines unnaimously voted that I was the only one who could load and nothing would have spots on it. Because I understaood the mechanical design and how the spray needles aimed. I angled stuff just right and it fit wonderfully. I'm willing to be I may even be able to arrange blender jar and coffee caraf in there without too much of a hastle. But I can also tell you MANY a load was run in these things with the top rack full and the bottom rack not even half full because housewives simply were not willing to work with putting stuff in the bottom rack (like mixing bowls, ...) so that they'd be exposed to water because it all took up far too much room. Yes, they're fun to play with, but I never would see a load of dishes like those in pictorials of ads for not only Frigidaire, but KA, because you didn't have all those plates in the bottom, unless you had had a dinner party And that's where the rubber meets the road in real life.
And when we save & restore something, aren't we supposed to restore it back to as close to what it was "stock"? Thus, not disturbing the racks.
Point well taken Bob, although having both the '56 and '61 together side by side to compare in the same house, I do like the racking arrangement of the '56 much better. But to each his own.
And you are correct, I should leave the racks they way they are.
Just for fun here are some shots of how Frigidaire suggests you load those racks:
Lower Rack
Upper Rack
Upper Rack Cont'd
And you are correct, I should leave the racks they way they are.
Just for fun here are some shots of how Frigidaire suggests you load those racks:
Lower Rack
Upper Rack
Upper Rack Cont'd
Robert, thanks for posting the pix. SteveD in Albany sent me a copy of the owners manual for the Imperial or CI. It's quite fascinating to see all the suggedsted examples. Here again, just as I noted when I got the copies from Steve, I was reminded of all the ash trays I had to deal with after ladies afternoon bridge parties or my parents big duplicate bridge dinners. BTW, do you have a OM for the 1956-1959 models? I'd love to see those.
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Robert, thanks for the pictures. I had no idea how one of those racks on the 1961 was loaded...the last thing I would have thought was angle loading!! Quite a good-sized capacity for glasses, coffee cups, and the like...definitely surprised me!
Although I still have one question; how would small items like saucers and cake plates be loaded, or would they have to be placed in the bottom rack only?
Although I still have one question; how would small items like saucers and cake plates be loaded, or would they have to be placed in the bottom rack only?
Austin, those small plates like you mentioned could be placed in the middle of the upper rack as well as best suited for the middle of the lower rack.
I hostely believe the redesigned upper rack with the ability to place small dishes down the center of it was a response to market demands. Cereal bowls, (numerous from a family breakfast or soup lunch) ended up taking a lot of space in the bottom rack if loaded for exposure. The lady next door with the LK combos had this dishwasher built in. She also had the same set of dishes my parents had. (Johnson Brothers Regency). Anyway, the squared cereal bowls fit perfectly in the top rack down that cnter row and got washed much better, especially when ya had 8 or 10 of them and or as well the fingertip or fruit bowls.
I hostely believe the redesigned upper rack with the ability to place small dishes down the center of it was a response to market demands. Cereal bowls, (numerous from a family breakfast or soup lunch) ended up taking a lot of space in the bottom rack if loaded for exposure. The lady next door with the LK combos had this dishwasher built in. She also had the same set of dishes my parents had. (Johnson Brothers Regency). Anyway, the squared cereal bowls fit perfectly in the top rack down that cnter row and got washed much better, especially when ya had 8 or 10 of them and or as well the fingertip or fruit bowls.
Loading Stuff
Looks a solid piece of kit, does this wash just from the RotoSwirl Tube or does it have a jet from the underneath ??
Its interesting to see the loading examples suggesting "How One Should Do It" but I bet like most people you find your own way with your own stuff, so individual...
I bet even Bob doesnt follow the loading patterns with his mega loads...LOL
Cheers, Mike
Looks a solid piece of kit, does this wash just from the RotoSwirl Tube or does it have a jet from the underneath ??
Its interesting to see the loading examples suggesting "How One Should Do It" but I bet like most people you find your own way with your own stuff, so individual...
I bet even Bob doesnt follow the loading patterns with his mega loads...LOL
Cheers, Mike
Hi Austin, in my '56 all dishes, plates, cookiesheets, cereal bowls, frying pans, griddles and other flat or nearly flat items go in the bottom rack. The top rack is for glasses, mugs, pots and pans, etc. I do put smaller pots and pans on their side in the bottom rack to as well as pyrex bowls.
Yes glasses always get angled in the upper rack in both machines.
Yes glasses always get angled in the upper rack in both machines.
Do any of you guys know if Frigidaire was still using the center-positioned one-spray arm format in the early 70's? Several of my friends had Frigidaire DW'ers in their houses, but I don't recall what the spray-arm format was. All I remember is that each of them had significant rusting issues. Was rusting a problem for Frigidaire's or was this just a coincidence?
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