"EXTRA RINSE"

[passatdoc]

I remember seeing Extra Rinse as an option on higher end FL machines when I had to purchase a washer in 1988 and in 1997. In 1988, I had just bought a home and was on a tight budget, so bought a White Westinghouse pair from Price Club (now Costco) for $598. POS washer but you get what you pay for. When I bought the GE pair in 1997, I remember seeing a higher model with Extra Rinse for $50 more---is that about the price differential that others remember? It seemed like they wanted $50 more for a single feature.

 

[macboy91si]

Rinsing and Twintubs

My take and experience...

 

In my Hoover machines, I usually open up the pump and find horrible crap (detergent residue) in them and it has usually gone terminal and destroyed the pump. With a lot of these small machines, they were usually oversudsed and never rinsed out. With a Hoover especially, you use the spinner to rinse and the last thing the pump sees in a use is the mucky, soapy water being drained and then the machine being put away. Few people ever flushed the pumps with clean water. One machine that I have been using on and off for 4 years now was like that when I got it. I replaced the pump with a good used one that I had and lubed it up. 4 years later I disassembled it to lube the bearing and found NOTHING in the pump. As clean as it was when I assembled it. I attribute that to clearing the pump after use.

 

Now for the double rinse theory that Tom has, I do understand that. If heavy soap was used in the wash and not rinsed in the first rinse, then I see no harm that could be done by flushing away more of the soap residue. I suppose that this would depend on additives and the hardness of the water. Again I can see that if ample amounts of detergent was used. I don't find Maytags to be exceptional rinsers with the "recommended" amount of Tide or Gain in them and I too will dial in a 2nd rinse at times. The GE-FF never needs more than one rinse and recently when pulling the tub for inspection was relieved to find no buildup. All of these machines see hot water washes and bleach regularly. I like to rinse and see the water as close to clear as possible, and so far this does not seem to have been detrimental to any of my equipment.

 

-Tim

 

[arbilab]

Not like I've seen EVERYthing, but in all my AW experience, and I've been watching/using them for 60 years, I never saw an 'extra rinse' option until I bought my 1998 Frigiwhite FL. Cycle time does not change but the 3rd rinse drains/spins and refills if the ER is selected. I've had Westinghouse, Frigidaire (real one), Maytag, Whirlpool.

BTW the Frigiwhite has FIVE rinses counting the first spray and 4 fills. I like rinsing and 4 gallons of cold water costs nothing.

 

[qualin]

I know this is a little off topic for this thread and I apologize....

The 2004 vintage GE TOL washer we had had an extra rinse option, but I think in the entire time we ever owned it for the last 7 years, we only used it maybe once or twice. Never saw a need to rinse more than once I guess.

We actually used the "Extended Spin" cycle much more though.

 

[macboy91si]

Extended Spin

I have always wondered if the extended spin helps. Is there a point at a set speed that no more water is extracted. I think GE is the only maker I have seen with this option.

-Tim

 

[jetcone]

Not to upset Mother Superior

but second rinsing should never wear down a machine that is well designed in the first place to do its job correctly. My '78 Frigidaire 1-18 three speed has a second rinse option, which I use occasionally. Also the new Speed Queen's offer an additional rinse option on top of the 3 rinses in the program, leaves the machine sparkling clean.

 

[combo52]

To Doctor Frigidaire

What does wear out a washer then if it is not using it ?

 

[tomturbomatic]

No, it does not wear out from lack of use, but especially on older machines with more metal parts subject to corrosion and rusting, better rinsing further neutralized the alkalinity from the detergents in the machine. The damage is sorta like the way the vinyl failed on the upper racks on the 21 or 22 series KA DWs letting the metal rust when one rinse left everything covered in mineral/detergent film.