I don't think the clothes were loaded in an optimum fashion. Would it help to load the clothes in quadrants? Perhaps it was overloaded too. I mean no disrespect, just observations.
Finally the full wash video of the new 2018 Speed Queen washer
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I wouldn't have any problem with this, but I usually don't do loads that full anyway. And Lord knows it's quieter than this 432 I just bought. In fact, what I like least is all the damn buttons. I do like dials.
But, as someone pointed out, this might not be the machine for those who create truly filthy clothing; I seldom have more than "office dust" (sic) and this would work for me with the added benefit of silence and greater reliability.
But I'm certainly not replacing a 2-month-old machine anyway...and I do appreciate this gentleman's effort to give us a test run.
I wouldn't have any problem with this, but I usually don't do loads that full anyway. And Lord knows it's quieter than this 432 I just bought. In fact, what I like least is all the damn buttons. I do like dials.
But, as someone pointed out, this might not be the machine for those who create truly filthy clothing; I seldom have more than "office dust" (sic) and this would work for me with the added benefit of silence and greater reliability.
But I'm certainly not replacing a 2-month-old machine anyway...and I do appreciate this gentleman's effort to give us a test run.
norgeway
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I'm more convinced than before
I will not own anything new. If that qualifies as a washer I'm a brain surgeon
I will not own anything new. If that qualifies as a washer I'm a brain surgeon
Welcome To Brain Surgery!
It definitely qualifies. I'd make a bet if it were possible to stage, that if you placed this machine side by side with your preferred, used the same supplies and dried the same, that you wouldn't be able to pick out which was which. Oh, it might not be very dramatic, but after all, this is an appliance.
It definitely qualifies. I'd make a bet if it were possible to stage, that if you placed this machine side by side with your preferred, used the same supplies and dried the same, that you wouldn't be able to pick out which was which. Oh, it might not be very dramatic, but after all, this is an appliance.
speedqueen
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Ditto Hans,
I'm not impressed. Might be good at soaking out stains with the longer cycles for enzymes to work, then again, a wash tub and wringer could do that for less money with more cycle variability, too! The agitation isn't worth anything in my opinion.
I'm not impressed. Might be good at soaking out stains with the longer cycles for enzymes to work, then again, a wash tub and wringer could do that for less money with more cycle variability, too! The agitation isn't worth anything in my opinion.
supersurgilator
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Unfortunately, I also was not impressed with this last vid. I also noticed that gray shirt just floating around on top not going anywhere. I have a feeling that once this machine comes out and they get some feedback from people, they will make some tweaks to this model.
Ryan, I would highly suggest the new Maytag model for you. I have had the GE460 for 2 years now. It's ok but I'm not a fan. Clothes do come clean in it but there is no movement at all, everything just sits there no matter what you do. The loads always come out twisted and wrinkled as well, far worse than any other washer I have used. I do like the redesign of the Maytag and I'm so curious to see what Whirlpool is gonna do to its lineup next year.
Ryan, I would highly suggest the new Maytag model for you. I have had the GE460 for 2 years now. It's ok but I'm not a fan. Clothes do come clean in it but there is no movement at all, everything just sits there no matter what you do. The loads always come out twisted and wrinkled as well, far worse than any other washer I have used. I do like the redesign of the Maytag and I'm so curious to see what Whirlpool is gonna do to its lineup next year.
<blockquote>LorainFurniture: I did the same load again on a smaller water level and it did pretty good.</blockquote> I expect overfilling for the load size has an adverse effect on the wash action.
Another great video. Thank you Eugene.
My 20 cents worth - there is nothing wrong with the size of the load or how the clothes were put in the washer. It does confirm what many have already stated, the agitation is not powerful enough to turn over a regular mixed load. Everything pretty much remained where it had been placed at the start. My washer would have constantly moved this load from the top to the bottom of the agitator and without trouble. Eugene stated that his trousers are fleece lined, which makes them pretty bulky. Perhaps the bulky cycle might have been more appropriate for this load of washing. I reckon SQ do need to modify this tub to create better movement of the wash load. Being spun from left to right does not really create enough friction and agitation, nor would it force water through denser fabrics. Gentle, however, this is.
The speed and complete turns of the wash tub appear to vary throughout the wash cycle. Most of the time rotation seems to be rather slow and unable to create enough force to turn over the wash load. In the first of Eugene's videos the load of towels was lighter and movement more vigorous.
Now, how did Eugene rate the cleaning of this last load of clothes? Were smells and stains removed?[this post was last edited: 12/15/2017-20:54]
My 20 cents worth - there is nothing wrong with the size of the load or how the clothes were put in the washer. It does confirm what many have already stated, the agitation is not powerful enough to turn over a regular mixed load. Everything pretty much remained where it had been placed at the start. My washer would have constantly moved this load from the top to the bottom of the agitator and without trouble. Eugene stated that his trousers are fleece lined, which makes them pretty bulky. Perhaps the bulky cycle might have been more appropriate for this load of washing. I reckon SQ do need to modify this tub to create better movement of the wash load. Being spun from left to right does not really create enough friction and agitation, nor would it force water through denser fabrics. Gentle, however, this is.
The speed and complete turns of the wash tub appear to vary throughout the wash cycle. Most of the time rotation seems to be rather slow and unable to create enough force to turn over the wash load. In the first of Eugene's videos the load of towels was lighter and movement more vigorous.
Now, how did Eugene rate the cleaning of this last load of clothes? Were smells and stains removed?[this post was last edited: 12/15/2017-20:54]
gusherb
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My previous assessment still stands. The old one could've handled that load much better, not to mention one does not have to load it in any certain fashion other than to not overload it to the point where you must smash the clothes down to get them in the tub. If one has to load a machine a special way other than to drop clothes in and not overload it, then the engineers have failed. I won't conclude to that just yet just from one demo but I think evidence is pointing to this being an issue on the new design.
Aside from the questionable wash action I honestly don't mind just about every other aspect of this new machine, the load sensing and dance it does to go into spin are far less annoying than every other "modern" machine I've seen so far. While I love the sounds the outgoing machine makes, the silence of the new machine can be just as great where noise levels are a concern. For me personally, if it can't sound like music to my ears then I'd rather it be as quiet as possible.
Aside from the questionable wash action I honestly don't mind just about every other aspect of this new machine, the load sensing and dance it does to go into spin are far less annoying than every other "modern" machine I've seen so far. While I love the sounds the outgoing machine makes, the silence of the new machine can be just as great where noise levels are a concern. For me personally, if it can't sound like music to my ears then I'd rather it be as quiet as possible.
Unrealistic expectations. Speedqueen gives training, early shipments to stores and they get stabbed in the back. Not cool.
Hey guys
I almost didn’t post this video because of so many errors that are not the fault of the machine. Yes, I definitely overloaded it. Towards the end you can see I’m shoving the clothes in there to make it fit. Definitely not the machine’s fault. I also wrapped the clothes around the tub, not in a quadrant fashion.
That coupled with my floating pants gave me a not so good wash.
The clothes when done were definitely cleaner than when put in, but not clean by aw.org standards. I think the average person would have found them to be acceptable. That soap that I’m using is very fragrant, and the smell was almost imperceptible after the wash. It definitely is a good rinser.
I posted this video because I’m trying to be as objective as possible while testing. I won’t sell a washer out of my store that doesn’t perform well. It’s serious business for me.
If I put the same load in a speed queen “old skool” it probably would have fell flat on its face too. Heck, I don’t even think the direct drive could have turned over a load that compressed.
I’ll tell you this, blanket wash went pretty darn well. The results surprised me.
I almost didn’t post this video because of so many errors that are not the fault of the machine. Yes, I definitely overloaded it. Towards the end you can see I’m shoving the clothes in there to make it fit. Definitely not the machine’s fault. I also wrapped the clothes around the tub, not in a quadrant fashion.
That coupled with my floating pants gave me a not so good wash.
The clothes when done were definitely cleaner than when put in, but not clean by aw.org standards. I think the average person would have found them to be acceptable. That soap that I’m using is very fragrant, and the smell was almost imperceptible after the wash. It definitely is a good rinser.
I posted this video because I’m trying to be as objective as possible while testing. I won’t sell a washer out of my store that doesn’t perform well. It’s serious business for me.
If I put the same load in a speed queen “old skool” it probably would have fell flat on its face too. Heck, I don’t even think the direct drive could have turned over a load that compressed.
I’ll tell you this, blanket wash went pretty darn well. The results surprised me.
speedqueen
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Overloaded,
That makes it more like what an actual consumer would do. Makes for a better test in my opinion.
That makes it more like what an actual consumer would do. Makes for a better test in my opinion.
gusherb
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Eugene I appreciate you posting that, I was curious how it handled that type of load. It definitely appears as JL said, that the new design doesn't handle extra large loads as well as the old one. Not that the old one had much turnover when it's overloaded but that machine surprises me how much you can stuff in there and still get turnover.
laundry detergent and fabric softener and bleach recommendat
Hey Eugene, If I were you, I'd highly recommend Tide pods in the original scent. I'd also recommend Downy April Fresh as an additive which I use everytime I wash clothes. I'd also recommend Clorox bleach packes. Try Tide and see how it works. It may be the detergent you're using. I'd like to see a load with fabric softener by the way. When you do a load of whites, I'd love to see it with bleach in there. I'd also like to see the heavy duty cycle with max soil level selected.
This washer needs a second chance before we condemn its wash action just because of a fluke. I'd try some pods. That's what I use.
Jerome
Hey Eugene, If I were you, I'd highly recommend Tide pods in the original scent. I'd also recommend Downy April Fresh as an additive which I use everytime I wash clothes. I'd also recommend Clorox bleach packes. Try Tide and see how it works. It may be the detergent you're using. I'd like to see a load with fabric softener by the way. When you do a load of whites, I'd love to see it with bleach in there. I'd also like to see the heavy duty cycle with max soil level selected.
This washer needs a second chance before we condemn its wash action just because of a fluke. I'd try some pods. That's what I use.
Jerome
Speed Queen 2018 top load!
Eugene thank you for posting! -- The wash action to wash a full load of dirty laundry is rather poor! You would definitely need to do a prewash / soak plus a extended wash time to get a clean load. But even with all that with poor turnover it just isn't going to work! I am not that opposed to this adjtub principal but SP could have made a better agitator and even fins around the tub itself to get more cleaning power. I think they are going to get complaints and will loose business on these 2018 models! I kind of remember the GM adjtub did a better job washing and their was some European old videos on youtube that used this same principle that did a better job washing!
Peter
Eugene thank you for posting! -- The wash action to wash a full load of dirty laundry is rather poor! You would definitely need to do a prewash / soak plus a extended wash time to get a clean load. But even with all that with poor turnover it just isn't going to work! I am not that opposed to this adjtub principal but SP could have made a better agitator and even fins around the tub itself to get more cleaning power. I think they are going to get complaints and will loose business on these 2018 models! I kind of remember the GM adjtub did a better job washing and their was some European old videos on youtube that used this same principle that did a better job washing!
Peter
Speed Queen 2018 top load comparison to skinny mini!
Here is one example of a better wash
Hey speed queen why didn't you do some research before you redesigned!
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkMuw9FvGgY
Here is one example of a better wash
Hey speed queen why didn't you do some research before you redesigned!
http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkMuw9FvGgY
Watched the second video-NOT impressed at all.WILL NOT buy one of these.I can see them being returned in favor of other washers-and some of these end up in the appliance swap shops.
mark_wpduet
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Thanks for making the video
Well, at least we all know that this machine can't be overloaded. I don't see how bulky would have helped. I could be wrong, I wonder what it does differently? Maybe bulky spins with water in it more to try to force the load down more? I don't know. That underwear got a bit of a soak staying on the top, but they never really got washed, only rinsed and spun.
Well, at least we all know that this machine can't be overloaded. I don't see how bulky would have helped. I could be wrong, I wonder what it does differently? Maybe bulky spins with water in it more to try to force the load down more? I don't know. That underwear got a bit of a soak staying on the top, but they never really got washed, only rinsed and spun.
