Finally the full wash video of the new 2018 Speed Queen washer

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Thanks for taking the time to do the videos and share the info with us. I am not too knowledgeable when it comes to computer, so I would miss out on all of this if it weren't for nice folks like you. Thanks for sharing :)
Todd
 
My Opinions...

Empty video:
Not impressed with their claim of moves more water through clothes while the old model moved the clothes through the water. This machine obviously works the opposite way, despite their claims. The water currents are pitiful.
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Blanket Wash:
I am impressed with this video, I think these machines work better with less water. Makes me reconsider the machines a little, I do hope they fix the auto-fill programming, if I recall correctly the first video used auto-fill too and the machine overfilled and we got less washing action than shown here.
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Cinematography:
Excellent job! I appreciate you making these fine videos of the action, as do most of us here, I presume.
 
Speed Queen

In all honesty, I think two things would make this washer much better, and would not change the overall design all that much.

1. Lock the tub in place during the wash and rinse. Yes, you would need a mode shifter. However, if they used good quality parts a mode shifter would not be a problem.

2a- Bigger fins on the base of the agitator. The speed queen will fill to the top, so like any deep fill top loader it will need something to create more action on high water levels.
2b. I think the overall agitation speed needs to be faster.

-Andy
 
Speed Queen 2018 top load comparison to frigidaire FFLE2022M

Their seems to be better performance with less water in the tub, but I agree with KenmoreBD something needs to be done with the agitator to create more friction! But even better they maybe should have not uses a agitator at all! Check out this wash action in Kirks video attached. Come on speed queen didn't you do some investigative work before you produced this monster!

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f29vg2MpIdE
 
Thanks again Eugene!  I think you're being completely fair, unbiased and objective with your videos.  You are showing the entire unedited cycles and people are drawing their own conclusions.  Exactly as it should be.

 

I'm sure the folks at Speed Queen expected exactly this and are watching the reactions here and and on YouTube. As Olav noted above, they have benefited tremendously from social media in the past but it's a double-edged sword.  Everyone here who is participating is actually helping them by letting them know the concerns and how best to address them in their new marketing campaigns. 

 

They said 19% gentler and 5% better cleaning in the sales presentation video.  I can easily accept the first claim.  As for the second, well I'm not from MO but they're going to have to show me.

 

 

 
 
I would've liked to have seen them stick with a design where the tub is stationary during the wash cycle, I feel like the agitub approach was purely a cost cutting measure with them desiring to save on the engineering costs of having to develop a new transmission for this machine, and any potential for said new part to prematurely fail and cost them even more money fixing it plus the PR problem that would follow.

Unless they can pull some magical computer programming wizardry out of their hats to maximize turnover, with the latest video (thanks once again Eugene!) I remain skeptical as to how well this machine will actually perform in the real world. They may just have to pay to develop that transmission after all... And if they do I'll gladly buy one.
 
I Agree, I’m not sure if this washer will work better than the old one. If it winds up even being close, I’d say that’s a great success. My observations:

I think the washer uses too much water in some cases. I’m pretty sure they know but are adding water to appease the customer

I think the agitator needs a little something extra to get the clothes moving when it’s overloaded. Inevitably people will stuff this machine and complain, because it really doesn’t do well. I figure a bit of a corkscrew or something.
 
Thanks for making the videos LorainF, excellent job...I've been dying to see the 2018 Speed Queen agitub in action...could you make some videos using the small to (smallest) water levels/washloads please?
 
The first F&P electronic machines had (Gentle Annie) no mode shifter. There was a metal tab on the wash basket drive shaft and a corresponding tab on the agitator drive shaft. Any time the agitator moved more than 340 degrees the spin tub would turn.

It is a belt driven computer controlled motor. For the Gentle cycles it can slow the agitation speed down but rotate the tub as well for more gentleness.

You can do both with only a computer controlled motor.
 
Before I learned the new SQ would have an agitub I was expecting it to at least perform like the F&P. 

 

When I was shopping a couple years ago I almost pulled the trigger on that machine but went for the SQ because it was traditional topload design, and surprisingly, cheaper than the F&P. Now comparing the two I'd pick the F&P over the new SQ easily, the turnover on the F&P kicks ass compared to the new SQ and seems to rival the old one. I also like the large tub, and the overall way it functions seems pretty to the point for a modern TL. 
 
The Fridgidaire does that annoying sense and fill like my Maytag, ten minutes into cycle and no action. But at least the F puts enough water in to wash with. The Maytag even on "deep wash" leaves clothes dry through much of the cycle. I thought I could sell them to a used app place. I called three all said they would not come and get them even for free.
 
BTW, when looking at the consumer review between SQ and F&P, it should be noted that in terms of cleaning, stain removal and rinsing, most front loaders would be rated very close to the F&P.

The cleaning outcomes I get from my SQ are vastly superior to 54%. I'd say that they are closer to 80%. Couple that with 97% rinse performance and my machine performs right up there with the best of them. Cold water washing, in this case tap cold, does not work all that well on regular to heavy soiling in any type of washer, especially not in a regular American top loader with short wash times. Most of us here know this already and puts the kind of comparisons done by CR organizations into a clearer perspective. [this post was last edited: 12/19/2017-22:21]
 

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