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Just like women showing bra straps, or men showing undershirts, there are things that label us. Poor grammar is one of those. Nitpicking? Possibly--particularly if you have little respect for communication skills, which apparently you do.
 
There is a difference between one little word that nobody would notice vs an entire post/paragraph that is errored to the point of being unreadable. The difference being its rude to say something in one case, and in the other case having to say something because its unreadable. It seems especially rude to nitpick an otherwise well worded/written post.

I find it particularly amusing of you to draw to the conclusion that I don't value communication skills over my mention of this. I guess you don't notice that I rarely mess up a word in my posts, further pointing out that its pointless to nitpick one little word.

P.S. I had to manually change the autocorrected "it's" to "its" while typing this on my iPad.
 
This guy is rude to everybody, he even made a snarky nasty comment on kirks youtube channel when kirk posted the training video of the speed queen saying the speaker was mumbling and needed to "learn how to speak" kirk blocked him, some people are just a holes, people like that will never get anywhere in life, just report him to robert. We have no tolerance for such negativity on here!
 
speed queen quality

Let's get back on topic about this new speed queen. I enjoy its build tough quality. I don't think we should immediately condemn this machine just because it didn't clean particular articles of clothes very well. I know how users like Maytag85/Sean feels, but it is unfair to slam Speed Queen.
What if they're still working out the bugs? What if it's the particular type/brand of detergent/additive(s) used? You have to admit that Speed Queen's hands were completely tied. So let's get back on topic about this new revolutionary Speed Queen.
 
Infusor-

I commented on the salesman's poor speaking on Rivas' channel, being surprised that someone in a position like that wasn't better trained. I removed the comment myself, haven't been "blocked" from anywhere. As for being "rude to everybody" I'd suggest reading my thread of comments.

However, if my comments aren't welcome here, then I'll cease making them.
 
Agitating tubs are not a new idea. However, out of all the wash systems that were developed over the past 100 years, there are only three types that have persisted until now. Vertical axis washers, impeller machines and straight vane agitators. Agitubs are not one of them. They have appeared at various times and in different incarnations and they have disappeared. Unless this latest offering from SQ delivers good and persistent results, it will disappear again. The more SQ adulterate their 'traditional' top loaders with functions and restrictions that are common to most HE machines, the less they will appeal to consumers looking for a regular, traditional American top loader. With social media allowing people to share and seek information instantly and across the globe, consumer reviews will be vital in determining the commercial success of this latest product.
 
I really wish whirlpool still made the calypso, of course anytime something actually works and is good they get rid of it. Why didnt they just spend money improving it instead of getting rid of it, even the F&P drive system they used in the cabrios after was way better than what they have now, the new cabrios are PITIFUL!!!!!
 
I think in part of it is cost, the Calypso costs more to make by the looks of it. Also the Calypso name was soured by angry customers and reliability issues. I will never forget the day more than 10 years ago when the Sears floor had more returned Calypsos then appliances on display.
 
That was also around the time Whirlpool had bought Maytag out and was putting Norge transmissions in them. They really killed off anything but their direct drive platform. Not really a high point for US appliance companies.

I'm assuming the fancy F&P style Cabrios went away for the same reason, cost. We do have the agipeller Maytag which I suppose is similar to the Cabrio. I'd really have to see the two side by side to pass any judgement.

Again, seems everything is now in favor of the horizontal axis machines. At least they all have windows...
 
Horizontal access

Said it before, but I think this thread is the place: We will all be compelled to switch to front loads. SQ is just one example. As TLs must please the DOE, everything they were good for will be gone or fall behind FLs. As the older generation retires, and as words spreads, kids today will be buying FLs no questions asked.

Yup- those were the lows in the industry.
 
thanks

I really appreciate the support. Im kind of a private guy, so I am a bit nervous to do commentary. Worst, I literally have no experience editing videos.

I binge watched several editing videos last night so hopefully subsequent videos will be somewhat better quality.

This washer is shaping up to be a pretty decent unit.
 
Loraine, you are more than fine. I have no video editing skills either. Yes there are always those on the net (and everywhere else) that make negative comments just to get a rise out of others, but the overwhelming majority appreciate your time and effort.
 
I think you are doing a great job on the commentary, way better than i could do haha, we all appreciate the videos for educating us on fairly new technology. New for speed queen at least.
 
Only one thing

You need more light in your videos; everything is perfectly fine. 👍🏻 Thanks for the time to make these videos - I know this takes more time than one might think.
 
 
The videos are nice!  Lighting can be tricky and having a bunch of extra lights around can get in the way of handling the camera when moving it for various angles.

This "empty" wash video shows how gentle is the action.  There's not much churning of the water compared to other agitator machines.

I'm curious to see the Bulky, Delicate, and Handwash cycles.
 
Thanks

Thanks for taking the time to do the videos and share the info with us. I am not too knowledgeable when it comes to computer, so I would miss out on all of this if it weren't for nice folks like you. Thanks for sharing :)
Todd
 
My Opinions...

Empty video:
Not impressed with their claim of moves more water through clothes while the old model moved the clothes through the water. This machine obviously works the opposite way, despite their claims. The water currents are pitiful.
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Blanket Wash:
I am impressed with this video, I think these machines work better with less water. Makes me reconsider the machines a little, I do hope they fix the auto-fill programming, if I recall correctly the first video used auto-fill too and the machine overfilled and we got less washing action than shown here.
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Cinematography:
Excellent job! I appreciate you making these fine videos of the action, as do most of us here, I presume.
 
Speed Queen

In all honesty, I think two things would make this washer much better, and would not change the overall design all that much.

1. Lock the tub in place during the wash and rinse. Yes, you would need a mode shifter. However, if they used good quality parts a mode shifter would not be a problem.

2a- Bigger fins on the base of the agitator. The speed queen will fill to the top, so like any deep fill top loader it will need something to create more action on high water levels.
2b. I think the overall agitation speed needs to be faster.

-Andy
 
Speed Queen 2018 top load comparison to frigidaire FFLE2022M

Their seems to be better performance with less water in the tub, but I agree with KenmoreBD something needs to be done with the agitator to create more friction! But even better they maybe should have not uses a agitator at all! Check out this wash action in Kirks video attached. Come on speed queen didn't you do some investigative work before you produced this monster!

http://https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f29vg2MpIdE
 
Thanks again Eugene!  I think you're being completely fair, unbiased and objective with your videos.  You are showing the entire unedited cycles and people are drawing their own conclusions.  Exactly as it should be.

 

I'm sure the folks at Speed Queen expected exactly this and are watching the reactions here and and on YouTube. As Olav noted above, they have benefited tremendously from social media in the past but it's a double-edged sword.  Everyone here who is participating is actually helping them by letting them know the concerns and how best to address them in their new marketing campaigns. 

 

They said 19% gentler and 5% better cleaning in the sales presentation video.  I can easily accept the first claim.  As for the second, well I'm not from MO but they're going to have to show me.

 

 

 
 
I would've liked to have seen them stick with a design where the tub is stationary during the wash cycle, I feel like the agitub approach was purely a cost cutting measure with them desiring to save on the engineering costs of having to develop a new transmission for this machine, and any potential for said new part to prematurely fail and cost them even more money fixing it plus the PR problem that would follow.

Unless they can pull some magical computer programming wizardry out of their hats to maximize turnover, with the latest video (thanks once again Eugene!) I remain skeptical as to how well this machine will actually perform in the real world. They may just have to pay to develop that transmission after all... And if they do I'll gladly buy one.
 
I Agree, I’m not sure if this washer will work better than the old one. If it winds up even being close, I’d say that’s a great success. My observations:

I think the washer uses too much water in some cases. I’m pretty sure they know but are adding water to appease the customer

I think the agitator needs a little something extra to get the clothes moving when it’s overloaded. Inevitably people will stuff this machine and complain, because it really doesn’t do well. I figure a bit of a corkscrew or something.
 
Thanks for making the videos LorainF, excellent job...I've been dying to see the 2018 Speed Queen agitub in action...could you make some videos using the small to (smallest) water levels/washloads please?
 

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