Finally the full wash video of the new 2018 Speed Queen washer

[lorainfurniture]

Eugene

I happen to own a late 90’s- early 2000’s kitchen aid. I like that washer in particular because it arrived to my shop in literally new condition. It was owned by an old lady. It has a porcelain top, 3 speed motor.

Just about any whirlpool built direct drive with a dual action agitator will likely do an amazing job. I’d narrow the search to 1997-2005 ish. The last couple of years the dd washers had a failure prone transmission and that stupid automatic temperature thing that always went bad. The earlier ones may have a smaller tub, perhaps a single agitator, and just kind of look ugly.

It is a bit rough on my clothes but I don’t mind as I typically buy new work pants annually.

The lg front load that I have is the wm3770hwa with sidekick washer. The washer is a great performer overall it just struggles to get the ground in dirt on my knees. Clothes are clean (except the knees a bit), and are well rinsed. Ultimately I think the lg is gentler than I prefer for my work pants.

I’ve had the speed queen FL, TL, whirlpool belt drive, and countless others. If I had to choose just one set forever I’d likely stick with my LG’s. It’s not really the best performing, not the longest lasting, but it does GREAT in every conceivable category.

 

[appnut]

Eugene, thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos.  Even more convinces me my Whirlpool Duet with Steam, Allergen, and Sanitize capabilities are far superior. 

 

[iowabear]

Eugene, I just wanted to add my thanks for the videos.  Great job.

 

My observations are the same as most others, if they are going to stick with this design they need to redesign the agitator to try to get more rollover on large loads. With a 1 HP motor they can surely do better.

 

[gelaundry4ever]

my observations

I have to agree. My Kenmore Elite does a better job with the upscale laundry detergent and fabric softener than this speed queen. It may work for office dust. My Kenmore Elite has the accelawash and is made by LG.
I don't see how this new speed queen would clean your Dear Uncle Trevor's jeans and overalls after a nice sunny day in the yard making mud pies with the kids or Dear Aunt Sally's gardening clothes.

 

[mtn1584]

Maytag vs Speed Queen 2018

Maytag Commercial TL wins hands down. Wash ability is like that of a DD machine. Why couldn’t SQ design a machine like the Maytag Commercial TL? Maytag really is going to give SQ a run for the money considering their new washer costs less and has a 5 year warranty. Sorry as a SQ customer I would pass in their 2018 reincarnation and go with Maytag.
Thanks Eugene for the awesome and informative videos.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Mike

 

[gusherb]

Yes, that Maytag commercial TL is very appealing now. So is the F&P WashSmart machine, apparently they're offering a warranty extension to 5 years if one claims online until 6/30/18. Must've been competing against SQ.

 

[trappn]

WashSmart & New Maytag

As mentioned earlier, we were thinking about the WashSmart, so decided to find every on-line review we could find.

Sounds like we may have been mistaken about how F&P controls the incoming cold temperature @ 20 degrees Celsius. Noticed several comments about how The cold temperature is only controlled when a "Cold" wash is selected; so, that wouldn't help us compensate for colder water during the winter, when we run a "Warm" wash cycle.

The other negative hot buttons were a few comments about the rod suspension system, & many complaints about lint. Perhaps, some of the F&P experts can chime in.

Sounds like the new Maytag is going to be the machine everyone talks about, in 2018. We were wondering how it goes about delivering a warm water wash. Assuming there are no sensors to help control the temperature?

Thanks for your help!

 

[DADoES]

 
Trappn,

All previous F&P models had the temperatures specifically controlled for all selections except Hot, on which the behavior varied from controlled on some model/series to being tap-hot on others.

For example, the service manual I have for Phase 9 machines (which date circa 2010, previous to the current offerings) states:
  Hot = 130°F
  Hot/Warm = 115°F
  Warm = 105°F
  Warm/Cold = 95°F
  Cold Plus [controlled] = 60°F
  Cold [tap] = supply temperature

The controlled temperature points varied over the progression of models.  For example, my 2004 model runs Hot at tap-hot, and Warm at 115°F.  Older models in the mid/late 1990s had 120°F for Hot and 95°F for Warm.

I don't have hands-on familiarity with the current WashSmart model but I'd be surprised if it doesn't follow the established pattern of controlling all the temp choices except tap-Cold.

 

[trappn]

Thanks, DADoES

The only thing I see in their current marketing is the mention of "Controlled Cold," which could mean almost anything.

Some of the reviewers commented that an inordinate amount of hot water was being dumped on their cloths, followed by uncontrolled cold water to complete the fill.

Time to reach out to one of the local dealers, if any are left. Maybe they have a current owner's manual. Thanks for your help!

 

[tolivac]

When get a NEW washer-if that happens,would consider the "commercial" Maytag over the new "agitub" SQ.Think this machine is going to KILL SQ home appliance dept!Watched the video-NOT impressed even with small loads.DON'T BUY!!!!Go Maytag!!!At least their machine has a REAL agitator and REAL wash action!The SQ just uselessly spins and paddles things around.

 

[infusor]

Sad to say but..... i have already put the new SQ on my do not buy list, i have a 4 year old lg front load that i like but i moved and my washer is on the right so the door gets in the way, i have been thinking about going back to a top load again, i seriously would consider the new commercial maytag, i prob will get the ge 860 model with smart dispense as i already have the matching dryer from 2013 that is still going strong.

 

[ultralux88]

Lorainfurniture

I can say from experience the direct drive Whirlpool does a damn good job of cleaning clothes, Even the old belt drive did a great job, until I splattered oil all over the floor and quit working. Its disappointing to see these new machines not cleaning as well as the design they replaced. I wonder if they will make any changes to the design as time continues? I can't imagine they want customers complaining about the wash quality...

 

[lorainfurniture]

New video

http://https//youtu.be/ClhWH_lT6_w

 

[speedqueen]

This is just a blasted power soaking machine. No water currents, no clothes action, just enzyme soak.

Just about any washer with an independent agitator including WCI angel wings and a Maytag set to gentle would work better. In fact it looks like the original Frigidaire Agi-Tub was better too.

 

[washman]

Remember Crocoldile Dundee?

That's not a knife...........



 

Now to 2017.........that's not a washing machine, now THIS is a washing machine.

 

[lorainfurniture]

my review

http://https//youtu.be/m-7rzT56Ut0

 

[iowabear]

Eugene, I watched your video review and it's nice work, and a good summary of the your videos and results.  It was very fair, nobody can say you didn't test the machine thoroughly before drawing your conclusions. 

 

SQ really should rethink this design, even their own engineers in the sales video seemed kind of half-hearted about it.

 

Thanks again for all your work making and posting the videos.  I hope you continue to do more of them on other new machines.  Happy New Year!

 

[appnut]

Eugene, from the bottom of my heart, I thank you immensely for taking the time to do videos.  And thank you for the candor of your overall review.  I can hear the pain and disappointment in your voice and it's definitely warranted.  And I also tip my hat to you for being honest and being respectful and mindful of your customers.  Bob

 

[tolivac]

Like the HONEST review---And how you recommend that the buyer go to a different brand or type of machine.

 

[toploader55]

What ashame

The momentum to watch Speed Queen climb to the top only to blow it with such a horrific design.

Thank You Eugene for the persistent testing to see if there was any positive notes on this design. You did find some good but not enough.

I highly respect you for not recommending this machine to your customers.

I think Allied should have just discontinued their Top Loader and stuck with the Front Load Machine.