Fisher & Paykel Appliances

[nmaineman36]

Whirlpool does make the Kenmore Oasis and the Bravos by Maytag and they make the Cabrio. If you look at all of them they are the same and from the same plant in Clyde OH where I think the majority of Whirlpool built washers are made.
Sadly it looks like Maytag made appliances are going to be rare. I saw the other day a Whirlpool designed and built dishwasher with the Maytag logo. Much like what Whirlpool has done the washers and dryers they are doing to dishwashers.

 

[appnut]

Mike, that was most likely the DurWash BOL type dishwasher you saw. Maytag TT machines are going to be around for a while!!

 

[nmaineman36]

Yeah Bob it was I want to say the PowerClean design that they had used and still use today. On another note we bought the Miele LaPerla dishwasher today. I am looking forward to it coming and getting installed. I will give the ol FisherPaykel and big kiss buh bye. Of course pics will follow when it finally comes.

 

[appnut]

Congratulations Mike!!

 

[lightedcontrols]

F&P appliances.........

...have to be the WORST junk built today, excepting the new line of GE topload washers. Stay away from them.....stay far, far, away!

 

[funguy10]

They are not. According to Fixitnow.com,"Everything breaks, it's only a matter of time and frequency." This means that the older your appliance and the more you use it, yhe sooner it will break.

 

[lightedcontrols]

Yes,

they are.

 

[rinso]

Oh no, Mark! I just purchased an F&P laundry set. They fit well in my tiny laundry room and so far, their performance has been awesome. Admittedly, the very convenient top load dryer smacks of mechanical complexity and future repairs. Hopefully F&P will improve the reliabilty of their machines as time goes on.

I'm guessing that F&P is trying to really think outside the box on their designs, and there is always risk associated with that. But, I do wonder what real advantage their double drawer dishwasher has, especially with machines out now that can wash a top rack only load. I wish F&P would bring out a single drawer machine, similiar to GE's and Westinghouse machines of the 50's.

 

[foraloysius]

There seems to be a bit of confusion in this thread.

1. IIRC there is no link between F&P and GE than the frontload dryer that is made by a company that also builds dryers for GE.

2. F&P sell single dish drawers, have a look at their website.

Luxury Home & Kitchen Appliances | Fisher & Paykel USA

Fisher & Paykel designs and manufactures award-winning home appliances. Create a complete appliance suite of luxury refrigerators, ovens, range cookers, and more.

www.fisherpaykel.com

 

[funguy10]

So how come GE doesn't have a Top-Load design dryer like F&P?

 

[rinso]

I did know that F&P had a single drawer dishwasher offering, but what I meant is a tall drawer model with a top and bottom rack.

 

[frigilux]

Glenn (or anyone else with a F & P):

I copied these instructions for reusing wash water with an F&P. Am I reading this wrong or do they suggest you pull sopping wet clothing out of the full tub of water and replace it with another load. Or has the water spun out and gone into a laundry tub ala US machines with suds-saver?

 

[funguy10]

Figured I should give more information on the DishDrawers since they are coming up in discussion. They come in single and double models with and without LCD display and integrated models which can be hidden within cabinitry. This is done by making the front look like your cabinet. This cannot be done with LCD models. The single models need support by additional construction underneath but the double models can fit in the space where a standard dishwasher would. Here are the models from off of the website:

DS603I:Single,non LCD,integrated.
DD603FCouble,non LCD,Stainless Steel finish.
DS603ZW:Single,LCD,White in color.
DD603SSouble, LCD, Stainless Steel finish.
DD603IHouble, non LCD, integrated.
DD603Bouble, LCD, Black in color.
DS603SS:Single, LCD, Stainless Steel finish.
DS603B:Single, LCD, Black in color.
DD603Iouble, non LCD, integrated.
DS603FC:Single, non LCD, Stainless Steel finish.
DD603HSSouble, LCD, Stainless Steel finish.
DD603ZWouble, LCD, White in color.
DS603IH:Single, non LCD, integrated.

 

[funguy10]

Actually, I also take back an earlier post about the DishDrawers being crap. They are great, when they work.

 

[DADoES]

What triggered your opinion to change?

 

[DADoES]

Eugene, you are correct on the suggested procedure being completely manual. There's no formal sudsaver function. The Soak option adds a two-hr soak after the main wash agitation, which allows time for the user to get to the machine before the water drains. Water conservation is at a much more crisis level in NZ and Aus than in the U.S. so I suppose it isn't unreasonable for people there to do this, running one's automatic in a sort of twin-tub fashion. The deep rinse water can be reused for washing the next load (cold) by selecting the drip-dry option which pauses after rinse agitation, remove the clothes, reset for another wash cycle. Then when it's done, put the first load back in for a spin, if you haven't already hung them for drip-drying.

I used the shower-rinse option (AAA qualified, there's another selection for AAAA-level) on a load of towels/mixed cottons yesterday. Used Wisk HE (1-1/3 capsful), which has a fairly strong scent. It ran three shower/saturation-spin rinses, and there was very little detergent scent remaining. I suppose a better test would be with Foca, Roma, or Ariel.

 

[frigilux]

I tried a manual shower/saturation rinse on my TL Frigidaire today with a medium-sized load of bath towels and it really seemed to work well. Since the tub spins for the first minute of the rinse fill, it totally saturates the clothes. Then I spun them and repeated the process twice. I'll have to figure out how much water I'm using on each shower rinse and compare it to a deep rinse.

What's the protocol for rinsing to get the AAAA rating, Glenn?

Thanks for all your patience in answering these questions. There is an F&P dealer within 35 miles of me and I'm really getting tempted...They're such a technologically advanced TL'er. And you can still get one with a traditional agitator. I'm not ready for an impeller machine.

 

[DADoES]

Haven't yet tried the AAAA rinsing. Next opportunity ... have load of jeans coming soon. Can't use softener with shower rinsing, but could run a follow-up deep rinse for that.

Seems like the AAA choice is different on the IWL12 than shower rinse on the GWL08. 08 I recall the pump continued running during the showering, at least some of the time. 12 it shuts off except during the drain/spin sequences.

 

[funguy10]

DADoeS, I changed my opinion on the DishDrawers becuse they are great when they work. The guy who said he saw that thing on The Today Show kind of biassed me.

 

[irishwashguy]

You are right when you say

The F and P Dish D are good when they work. I had one for a while and got rid of it after about three months. The concept is nice, and very outside the box.I put the Ghetto Phabulous Hotpoint back in my kitchen, and have had no issues with it at all. I do not use it that much, the Fisher and Paykel had problems from the get go. I got a refund from my store thank you Basco, they have told me they get alot of them back, and really do not push them at all. i was told not to rinse my dishes, to no avail, it did not do a good job at all. i had the leaking thing, and the computer problem thing with in the first month. I only wash dishes about three times a week, and that is a full load of them. That is why i thought that it would be good to have one of these. I think that i am inclined to stick with my KitchenAid, and well the cheap Hotpoint. The cheap diswasher even did better than the F and P, and for a great price, it came with my house. i woudl stay away from their producs. As far as the full size dishwasher in the US, they do not sell one here, just the Dish Drawers. Congrads on the Miele. I love their appliances. Before I move into my new house, I am remodeling the kitchen with all of their appliances, including the new fridge that is coming out very shortly.