whirlcool
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Can't wait for it's maiden run with dishes to see how they come out. And the smell of Plastisol after washing is always a treat. I still remember that smell from when I was a kid and my parents had a MM.
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launderess
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Maiden Run
Will be a few days. This thing holds *a lot* of dishes! Could be awhile before one has a full load. *LOL*
Have already experienced the joys of a "new" dishwasher in finding our glass bowls won't fit properly in the upper rack. They are too large and shallow. Placed them in the lower rack as one did with the Kenmore, however the MM owner's manual states to place them in corners against the tub. Am worried about damage to the tub caused by things being knocked about by all that powerful sprays of water. Still it is nice to finally be able to place large serving platters along with pots in a dw. Am loving also being able once again to get the kitchen cleared after dinner in two shakes of a lamb's tail.
Filling the rinse aid dispenser proved a pain. Jet Dry kept dribbling down into the tub. Had to take everything out so could wipe the spillage away. Nice time will use a funnel to make things easier and less messy.
Found a NOS faucet adapter to replace the corroded and rusting one that came with the unit. It like the previous does not have a screen and or aerator to help keep the one on the water valve clean. Know GE has made several versions of these adapters over the years and some incarnations include what one wants. Am going to see if anything is in our collection of orphaned faucet adapters.
On another note these Mobile Maids do seal rather well, too well in fact. Dishes have only been gathering for about a day and already there is a slight whiff when you raise the lid. It is also very "moist" in there as well.
Will be a few days. This thing holds *a lot* of dishes! Could be awhile before one has a full load. *LOL*
Have already experienced the joys of a "new" dishwasher in finding our glass bowls won't fit properly in the upper rack. They are too large and shallow. Placed them in the lower rack as one did with the Kenmore, however the MM owner's manual states to place them in corners against the tub. Am worried about damage to the tub caused by things being knocked about by all that powerful sprays of water. Still it is nice to finally be able to place large serving platters along with pots in a dw. Am loving also being able once again to get the kitchen cleared after dinner in two shakes of a lamb's tail.
Filling the rinse aid dispenser proved a pain. Jet Dry kept dribbling down into the tub. Had to take everything out so could wipe the spillage away. Nice time will use a funnel to make things easier and less messy.
Found a NOS faucet adapter to replace the corroded and rusting one that came with the unit. It like the previous does not have a screen and or aerator to help keep the one on the water valve clean. Know GE has made several versions of these adapters over the years and some incarnations include what one wants. Am going to see if anything is in our collection of orphaned faucet adapters.
On another note these Mobile Maids do seal rather well, too well in fact. Dishes have only been gathering for about a day and already there is a slight whiff when you raise the lid. It is also very "moist" in there as well.
beekeyknee
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Launderess,
If you're have trouble with the uncoupled leaking while it's attached to the faucet, try soaking it in distilled vinegar over night, making sure it's completely submerged inside and out with the vinegar. I don't know if it will help you or not but I was having the same problem with my KitchenAid I recently bought. It wasn't damaged or didn't seem to be worn. Just dirty with hard water deposits.
After soaking, I scrubbed with a toothbrush and the leak stopped. It seemed the hard water deposits were preventing a good seal with the adapter. I hope this is some help.
Brian
If you're have trouble with the uncoupled leaking while it's attached to the faucet, try soaking it in distilled vinegar over night, making sure it's completely submerged inside and out with the vinegar. I don't know if it will help you or not but I was having the same problem with my KitchenAid I recently bought. It wasn't damaged or didn't seem to be worn. Just dirty with hard water deposits.
After soaking, I scrubbed with a toothbrush and the leak stopped. It seemed the hard water deposits were preventing a good seal with the adapter. I hope this is some help.
Brian
What an enjoyable thread !
Launderess got down and dirty ! HOLLA !
Yes now you do have bragging rights ! Can't wait for the virgin load and maybe perhaps a ----- wait for it--------------VIDEO from Launderess ??
Launderess got down and dirty ! HOLLA !
Yes now you do have bragging rights ! Can't wait for the virgin load and maybe perhaps a ----- wait for it--------------VIDEO from Launderess ??
Can't wait to hear the results of the first load. It will be fun to see how you like it compared to the compact 18".
Good work on all the repairs, like Paul said, you're ready for your own vintage Kenmore rebuild now!
Good work on all the repairs, like Paul said, you're ready for your own vintage Kenmore rebuild now!
whirlcool
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Maybe after this is all over our Laundress will learn how to overhaul a 1-18 transmission and offer overhaul services on those too.
I find fixing things myself pretty rewarding and you do end up with a great sense of satisfaction when done.
I find fixing things myself pretty rewarding and you do end up with a great sense of satisfaction when done.
launderess
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Thanks Lads!
@beekeyknee - No leak from the unicouple at the faucet yet, just wanted to replaced the badly rotted adapter. Though it still does the job well interior wise is rusted something terrible.
So far still working on filling up the machine to run a wash cycle. It wouldn't be exactly "maiden" as one has run the dw before (see above regarding leaks) to clean things out. Also wanted to see if cycles ran as they should before doing more work.
Coming from the 18" Kenmore am still gobsmacked at the capacity of these Mobile Maid dishwashers. Figure even if they aren't the most energy frugal appliances out there may still save in the long run. This would be mainly due to having to run the unit less frequently because it hold more. Of course we shall see what there is in terms of how the machine copes with day or days old dishes that have been sat sitting.
So far have only rinsed out cups or glasses that contained substances which if dripped onto the tub could stain. Coffee, tea, cranberry juice, that sort of thing. Am really hoping can use the Cascade powder detergent from my stash. Really, really hate chlorine based dishwasher detergents, and am sure they do a number on tub interiors after awhile.
@beekeyknee - No leak from the unicouple at the faucet yet, just wanted to replaced the badly rotted adapter. Though it still does the job well interior wise is rusted something terrible.
So far still working on filling up the machine to run a wash cycle. It wouldn't be exactly "maiden" as one has run the dw before (see above regarding leaks) to clean things out. Also wanted to see if cycles ran as they should before doing more work.
Coming from the 18" Kenmore am still gobsmacked at the capacity of these Mobile Maid dishwashers. Figure even if they aren't the most energy frugal appliances out there may still save in the long run. This would be mainly due to having to run the unit less frequently because it hold more. Of course we shall see what there is in terms of how the machine copes with day or days old dishes that have been sat sitting.
So far have only rinsed out cups or glasses that contained substances which if dripped onto the tub could stain. Coffee, tea, cranberry juice, that sort of thing. Am really hoping can use the Cascade powder detergent from my stash. Really, really hate chlorine based dishwasher detergents, and am sure they do a number on tub interiors after awhile.
launderess
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>1850 Views?
Clearly one has underestimated the interest in vintage General Electric dishwashers. *LOL* Just think if one had a dollar for each view would have enough for air fare to Paris, France, first class! *LOL*
No maiden wash with dishes yet, but have already done so without last week which is how one discovered the leak in the first place.
Cannot get over the capacity of these dishwashers! Provided one does not "waste" space by loading pots and pans you can fit a vast amount of dish, silver and glass ware into these Mobile Maid dishwashers. Am thinking these top loading dishwashers would be perfect to have in say a butler's pantry or perhaps anywhere near the dining room. This way after a dinner party of some such start loading and in <one hour dishes are done and ready to be put away. Mind you the guest would have had to be gone or moved well out of the area for the noise. *LOL*
Of course there is no way such units could be built today as it seems they need too much water to be efficient. You cannot do "drizzle" automatic dishwashing with these babies.
Clearly one has underestimated the interest in vintage General Electric dishwashers. *LOL* Just think if one had a dollar for each view would have enough for air fare to Paris, France, first class! *LOL*
No maiden wash with dishes yet, but have already done so without last week which is how one discovered the leak in the first place.
Cannot get over the capacity of these dishwashers! Provided one does not "waste" space by loading pots and pans you can fit a vast amount of dish, silver and glass ware into these Mobile Maid dishwashers. Am thinking these top loading dishwashers would be perfect to have in say a butler's pantry or perhaps anywhere near the dining room. This way after a dinner party of some such start loading and in <one hour dishes are done and ready to be put away. Mind you the guest would have had to be gone or moved well out of the area for the noise. *LOL*
Of course there is no way such units could be built today as it seems they need too much water to be efficient. You cannot do "drizzle" automatic dishwashing with these babies.
launderess
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@whirlcool
Have learned if one is going to collect/purchase vintage appliances either learn to do some things oneself or seek out a qualified repair person but prepare to pay dear.
Quite honestly it is all one can do to find someone to repair the Miele, and that washer is only from the 1990's. As old techs die off and or otherwise leave the active profession new and younger repair persons are only cutting their teeth on "modern" appliances. Miele USA no longer trains in house or "certified" second party techs on models from the 1990's or before.
Have learned if one is going to collect/purchase vintage appliances either learn to do some things oneself or seek out a qualified repair person but prepare to pay dear.
Quite honestly it is all one can do to find someone to repair the Miele, and that washer is only from the 1990's. As old techs die off and or otherwise leave the active profession new and younger repair persons are only cutting their teeth on "modern" appliances. Miele USA no longer trains in house or "certified" second party techs on models from the 1990's or before.
whirlcool
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You are so right about fixing things yourself. Hell, most places will tell you to just buy a new one when repairing newer appliances. This is what has kept me from landing a Frigidaire 1-18 washer. While I may be mechanically adept, the pullers you need and the unobtainium of parts keep me away. I know I'd be lost on one of those units.
launderess
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First "Maiden" Wash With Dishes
Finally managed to fill up the MM and thus was able to put it through it's paces this evening. Will post "before" and "after" photos later once one has taken the latter. This probably won't be until the kitchen cools down from all the steam and heat this DW gives off. *LOL*
A few off the bat observations:
Noise? Not much worse or different than the 18" Kenmore (Frigidaire) unit, so nothing new a Moi.
Following directions in owners manual used a full detergent cup of detergent(Cascade Complete powder, the old stuff full of STPP) and about two tablespoons sprinkled into the tub/sump for the first "pre-wash" cycle. Everything was going well except several minutes into the main wash after the detergent was dumped could hear what one knows are the telltale sounds of a pump struggling with too much froth. Can only assume today's automatic dishwashing detergents especially those with built in rinse aids pack more of a froth punch than that of old. Also am assuming between the pre-wash then rinse that proceeded the main wash one does not need so much detergent. After two water changes one with detergent there probably was precious little for the stuff to work on to contain froth. Will make a mental note to use less next time and see what there is.
Otherwise the cycle was pretty uneventful. Rinse aid pump button slowly rose during the final rinse indicating it was working and thus far no leaks.
*Just Peeked*
Inside DW and am that well chuffed! Overall would give the Mobile Maid an "A" grade. At least from what one saw everything is clean without a yibble in sight. Will know the real nitty-gritty when things are unloaded later tonight. Will qualify this grade by saying two baking pans were less then clean. One Pyrex had tiny stuck on bit of brunt food, the other is one of those microwave "browning" dishes by Corning used to prepare chicken. It was barely touched it seemed still much covered with residue. Now to be fair the latter dish had been sat sitting for nearly one week or longer as it was one of the first things to go into the MM as we waited for it to fill up. It was pre-rinsed but not really washed. Also in terms of being fair the Kenmore 18" "Normal" cycle never got the thing totally clean either. In both instances a quick trip to the sink with some hot water, dish soap and a scrubbie sorted things out.
If one had reset the MM to another main wash the results on the two aforementioned pieces might have been better, but what would have been the good of that? Since the bulk of the load was already clean seems a plentiful waste of energy to essentially rewash a load just for two items. Especially since the heater would continue to be engaged regardless of how hot the water was already.
Oh yes, another thing. Water out of our hot water tap has been around 135F lately and one made sure to prime the line before each fill of the MM. Things came out clean and are drying nicely using no heat. Simply switched to "China and Crystal" after the last rinse was over, then moved the timer dial until one heard a sound indicating the heater was switched off. Then just let the timer run itself out. Will switch the unit back to "Normal/Daily" when unloading later.
What one did notice is one must take care in starting the "Normal/Daily" cycle. That first fill is timed and if the dial is moved too far over the machine will start without proper amount of water. Subsequent fills should be fine. Know now that the "*" means "start".
Finally managed to fill up the MM and thus was able to put it through it's paces this evening. Will post "before" and "after" photos later once one has taken the latter. This probably won't be until the kitchen cools down from all the steam and heat this DW gives off. *LOL*
A few off the bat observations:
Noise? Not much worse or different than the 18" Kenmore (Frigidaire) unit, so nothing new a Moi.
Following directions in owners manual used a full detergent cup of detergent(Cascade Complete powder, the old stuff full of STPP) and about two tablespoons sprinkled into the tub/sump for the first "pre-wash" cycle. Everything was going well except several minutes into the main wash after the detergent was dumped could hear what one knows are the telltale sounds of a pump struggling with too much froth. Can only assume today's automatic dishwashing detergents especially those with built in rinse aids pack more of a froth punch than that of old. Also am assuming between the pre-wash then rinse that proceeded the main wash one does not need so much detergent. After two water changes one with detergent there probably was precious little for the stuff to work on to contain froth. Will make a mental note to use less next time and see what there is.
Otherwise the cycle was pretty uneventful. Rinse aid pump button slowly rose during the final rinse indicating it was working and thus far no leaks.
*Just Peeked*
Inside DW and am that well chuffed! Overall would give the Mobile Maid an "A" grade. At least from what one saw everything is clean without a yibble in sight. Will know the real nitty-gritty when things are unloaded later tonight. Will qualify this grade by saying two baking pans were less then clean. One Pyrex had tiny stuck on bit of brunt food, the other is one of those microwave "browning" dishes by Corning used to prepare chicken. It was barely touched it seemed still much covered with residue. Now to be fair the latter dish had been sat sitting for nearly one week or longer as it was one of the first things to go into the MM as we waited for it to fill up. It was pre-rinsed but not really washed. Also in terms of being fair the Kenmore 18" "Normal" cycle never got the thing totally clean either. In both instances a quick trip to the sink with some hot water, dish soap and a scrubbie sorted things out.
If one had reset the MM to another main wash the results on the two aforementioned pieces might have been better, but what would have been the good of that? Since the bulk of the load was already clean seems a plentiful waste of energy to essentially rewash a load just for two items. Especially since the heater would continue to be engaged regardless of how hot the water was already.
Oh yes, another thing. Water out of our hot water tap has been around 135F lately and one made sure to prime the line before each fill of the MM. Things came out clean and are drying nicely using no heat. Simply switched to "China and Crystal" after the last rinse was over, then moved the timer dial until one heard a sound indicating the heater was switched off. Then just let the timer run itself out. Will switch the unit back to "Normal/Daily" when unloading later.
What one did notice is one must take care in starting the "Normal/Daily" cycle. That first fill is timed and if the dial is moved too far over the machine will start without proper amount of water. Subsequent fills should be fine. Know now that the "*" means "start".
whirlcool
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Great! Sounds like that was a lot of fun. I imagine when you peeked copious amounts of steam came out of that MM. Did you get the Plastisol odor when the machine was done?
Can't wait to see the pics!
Can't wait to see the pics!
Congratulations
on your successful work and great results. Now and then ANY dishwasher will come up against one or two baked/dried/extreme pots or pans. But it sounds like you are finding GE's Mobile Maid with Power Shower to be a great machine! Mine is filled to the brim once a week with anyting/everything, then it loudly and hotly and steamily does a fantastic job.
We'd love some before/after pics----
Thanks for all the posting and details--
Mark
on your successful work and great results. Now and then ANY dishwasher will come up against one or two baked/dried/extreme pots or pans. But it sounds like you are finding GE's Mobile Maid with Power Shower to be a great machine! Mine is filled to the brim once a week with anyting/everything, then it loudly and hotly and steamily does a fantastic job.
We'd love some before/after pics----
Thanks for all the posting and details--
Mark
launderess
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Good night nurse! *LOL!
Came back from an late night walk (to burn off dinner) and unloaded the MM before heading off to bed. Overall again am that well pleased with the results. Certainly am happy for once that the insides of my cups and glasses are not coated with yibbles, something the DM designed Kenmore/Frigidaire was famous. When you consider how much this Mobile Maid can hold it truly is a wonder.
Indeed am really amazed how a dw without a modern filter system managed to dispose of food. Mind you made sure all dishes were well scraped and there was the odd bit of food on the inside tub wall. Can also see a few grains of rice in the sump, but all this is small beer.
Th-th-th-tha-tha-tha-that's all, folks!
Came back from an late night walk (to burn off dinner) and unloaded the MM before heading off to bed. Overall again am that well pleased with the results. Certainly am happy for once that the insides of my cups and glasses are not coated with yibbles, something the DM designed Kenmore/Frigidaire was famous. When you consider how much this Mobile Maid can hold it truly is a wonder.
Indeed am really amazed how a dw without a modern filter system managed to dispose of food. Mind you made sure all dishes were well scraped and there was the odd bit of food on the inside tub wall. Can also see a few grains of rice in the sump, but all this is small beer.
Th-th-th-tha-tha-tha-that's all, folks!
Congratulations, Launderess! Glad to hear the patient survived and is doing well.
ovrphil
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Congratulations to the finish line
I'm smiling at your success and the thread was entertaining to read. Your MM sounds like a well-worthwhile effort, especially since it holds a good load of dishes and silverware(something our new, upgraded dishwasher here provided by C. Partners, didn't provide, compared to the replacement). Oh well. Wash on.
I'm smiling at your success and the thread was entertaining to read. Your MM sounds like a well-worthwhile effort, especially since it holds a good load of dishes and silverware(something our new, upgraded dishwasher here provided by C. Partners, didn't provide, compared to the replacement). Oh well. Wash on.
I feel swindled..
I'm reading along with this nail-biter of a drama and there isn't a single pic of the maiden load!!!!!
Only so many things can be left up to ones own imagination -- This doesn't follow in that category!
At least you got the machine up and running and got the leak solved... Stupid stuck screw...
I'm reading along with this nail-biter of a drama and there isn't a single pic of the maiden load!!!!!
Only so many things can be left up to ones own imagination -- This doesn't follow in that category!
At least you got the machine up and running and got the leak solved... Stupid stuck screw...
launderess
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Tough Crowd
Am sorry, but one does need to keep one's butter stuck to one's bread. Cannot spend all day messing about with a vintage dishwasher. *LOL*
Here goes:
*Before*
Am sorry, but one does need to keep one's butter stuck to one's bread. Cannot spend all day messing about with a vintage dishwasher. *LOL*
Here goes:
*Before*
launderess
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vintagekitchen
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epoxy repair
Your repair job should hold up for a long time, about 6 months ago I found a 1970s frigidaire dishwasher in lovely Avacado Green, to complement my stove. There were holes rusted out in that thing that I could put my finger through all the way to the other side. 2 days spent mending the holes with marine epoxy, and it has been in use ever since with nary a leak, and I tend to run it at least once a day, lol. As little as you run yours, the repair should last years.
Congrats on a job well done.
Your repair job should hold up for a long time, about 6 months ago I found a 1970s frigidaire dishwasher in lovely Avacado Green, to complement my stove. There were holes rusted out in that thing that I could put my finger through all the way to the other side. 2 days spent mending the holes with marine epoxy, and it has been in use ever since with nary a leak, and I tend to run it at least once a day, lol. As little as you run yours, the repair should last years.
Congrats on a job well done.
launderess
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Thank You Vintage Kitchen
This thread is now >2K posts. Must be come kind of record? *LOL*
So far things seem to be going well enough with this dishwasher. Since it holds so much only have to run the thing about once a week or so. While it can hold pots and pans prefer to do them in the sink to free up space for dishes, patters, etc. It isn't like they are going to come out totally clean (usually) anyway. However if am going to run the unit anyway later on will bung one or two in if there is room.
Contrary to what one has read about these units here in the group am sure there is some sort of timer or whatever control of heating during main wash. About mid or so way through that cycle there is some sort of "clang". This is well after the detergent cup has emptied so that cannot be the cause. Will take a good look at the schematic next time am under the bonnet.
Ran an acidic "cleaning" wash last week to deal with rust and other stain issues including the racks. This cleaned things up quite a bit including rust around the metal/pump area. Wanted to see what one was dealing with in terms of the racks and felt better to just clean up the whole thing that way rather than spot treat each bit on rack. Am going to purchase some of that "ReRack" paint and spend an afternoon sanding down and recoating areas that require attention.
This thread is now >2K posts. Must be come kind of record? *LOL*
So far things seem to be going well enough with this dishwasher. Since it holds so much only have to run the thing about once a week or so. While it can hold pots and pans prefer to do them in the sink to free up space for dishes, patters, etc. It isn't like they are going to come out totally clean (usually) anyway. However if am going to run the unit anyway later on will bung one or two in if there is room.
Contrary to what one has read about these units here in the group am sure there is some sort of timer or whatever control of heating during main wash. About mid or so way through that cycle there is some sort of "clang". This is well after the detergent cup has emptied so that cannot be the cause. Will take a good look at the schematic next time am under the bonnet.
Ran an acidic "cleaning" wash last week to deal with rust and other stain issues including the racks. This cleaned things up quite a bit including rust around the metal/pump area. Wanted to see what one was dealing with in terms of the racks and felt better to just clean up the whole thing that way rather than spot treat each bit on rack. Am going to purchase some of that "ReRack" paint and spend an afternoon sanding down and recoating areas that require attention.
Clang
What you're hearing is the spring for the soap cup resetting itself, so that once the load is done you can turn it right side up again.
After you hear the soap release, if you try to turn it up it won't stay. After that clang, about 2 increments on the timer, it's all reset to stay up when turned.
The various literature from our era of Mobile Maids occasionally reeferences the highest end models with self-resetting detergent cups, all other need you to turn it up yourself.
My MM was pushed aside for 2 months while I worked on a 70's model for a friend. Just last night I ran a load in the MM for the first time in a while, what a sound and what great results!
What you're hearing is the spring for the soap cup resetting itself, so that once the load is done you can turn it right side up again.
After you hear the soap release, if you try to turn it up it won't stay. After that clang, about 2 increments on the timer, it's all reset to stay up when turned.
The various literature from our era of Mobile Maids occasionally reeferences the highest end models with self-resetting detergent cups, all other need you to turn it up yourself.
My MM was pushed aside for 2 months while I worked on a 70's model for a friend. Just last night I ran a load in the MM for the first time in a while, what a sound and what great results!
Clang
You are exactly correct Mark about the sound that Laundress is hearing.
You are exactly correct Mark about the sound that Laundress is hearing.
John
I had that timer so far apart to prove it never heated the water, and then wire in relays to get heat, I'll never forget all the workings of that timer, both electro and mechanical-----That's why I asked Landeress about amperage. At 11 or 10 amps as opposed to mine listed at 6, I know she has a model that heats for at least the main wash.
And your advice on that motor helped---I now use this machine only once weekly. Oil in the bearings is a big must for that nearly non-serviceable motor.
But I tell you, folks----I have a built in KUDS23 series, and I have this 1966 Mobile Maid. There are major differences in these machine's design and size and racks and durability and noise and heat and steam for sure, but as far as how horridly dirty/burnt/crusty a pot or pan or dish you can put in and get clean results, they are equal.
I had that timer so far apart to prove it never heated the water, and then wire in relays to get heat, I'll never forget all the workings of that timer, both electro and mechanical-----That's why I asked Landeress about amperage. At 11 or 10 amps as opposed to mine listed at 6, I know she has a model that heats for at least the main wash.
And your advice on that motor helped---I now use this machine only once weekly. Oil in the bearings is a big must for that nearly non-serviceable motor.
But I tell you, folks----I have a built in KUDS23 series, and I have this 1966 Mobile Maid. There are major differences in these machine's design and size and racks and durability and noise and heat and steam for sure, but as far as how horridly dirty/burnt/crusty a pot or pan or dish you can put in and get clean results, they are equal.
launderess
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So That Is What Causes Said Sound
Once again the AW gang sorts me out, thanks!
Don't know about oiling this motor, haven't the nerve to get at it so will leave that on the side for awhile. Only need to run the MM as said previously about once a week or so, hopefully that is not going to be "over use" of a vintage machine.
Yes, this unit cleans up with best of modern dishwasher offerings. Does so in less time as well. Cost of course is at more water and electricity usage. IMHO it is wasteful to heat the water for the pre-wash/rinses as well as the main wash today. Modern enzyme detergents work well enough to loosen and dissolve muck and soils at temps of just 120F. Given that all this water is only kept around for about four minutes than drained is even more wasteful.
Being as that may the results are staggering. This Mobile Maid certainly out cleans the Frigidaire built Kenmore 18" that it replaced. Totally yibble free dishes including inside cups and glasses.
Personally like that the detergent cup remains down until one resets. It helps drain away water inside and drying.
Once again the AW gang sorts me out, thanks!
Don't know about oiling this motor, haven't the nerve to get at it so will leave that on the side for awhile. Only need to run the MM as said previously about once a week or so, hopefully that is not going to be "over use" of a vintage machine.
Yes, this unit cleans up with best of modern dishwasher offerings. Does so in less time as well. Cost of course is at more water and electricity usage. IMHO it is wasteful to heat the water for the pre-wash/rinses as well as the main wash today. Modern enzyme detergents work well enough to loosen and dissolve muck and soils at temps of just 120F. Given that all this water is only kept around for about four minutes than drained is even more wasteful.
Being as that may the results are staggering. This Mobile Maid certainly out cleans the Frigidaire built Kenmore 18" that it replaced. Totally yibble free dishes including inside cups and glasses.
Personally like that the detergent cup remains down until one resets. It helps drain away water inside and drying.
120ºF Washing
Is all well and good until you start loading stuff thats somewhat greasy into the dishwasher.
I can always tell by the look of the water in the sump after a cycle - since the grease is quite hard to remove, without a hot cycle.
I don't doubt Enzyme Ability, since I test it almost every day with dirty dishes. But I think these dishwashers had both short washes, uninsulated tanks and not "the best" cleaning ability - so getting as much oomph as possibly was one way of ensuring good results.
Is all well and good until you start loading stuff thats somewhat greasy into the dishwasher.
I can always tell by the look of the water in the sump after a cycle - since the grease is quite hard to remove, without a hot cycle.
I don't doubt Enzyme Ability, since I test it almost every day with dirty dishes. But I think these dishwashers had both short washes, uninsulated tanks and not "the best" cleaning ability - so getting as much oomph as possibly was one way of ensuring good results.
launderess
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Ok,
Was only speaking to the pre-wash or rinse, not the main wash cycle which of course should be heated IMHO.
Understand and appreciate why General Electric and other makers of dishwashers at the time designed things as they did, however today things could be a bit different.
In the grand scheme of things the 600watt heater on the MM is not going to raise water temps that much given the four minute pre-wash or rinse cycle. Even if incoming water was 140F it would likely only reach 143F by the end. This takes into account my model does not flush the sump before filling, so there is already cold water sitting inside the hoses and sump. Then the insulated tub and cold dishes are going to cool the water even further. At best the heater is helping the machine to maintain water temp by taking some of the chill off.
Was only speaking to the pre-wash or rinse, not the main wash cycle which of course should be heated IMHO.
Understand and appreciate why General Electric and other makers of dishwashers at the time designed things as they did, however today things could be a bit different.
In the grand scheme of things the 600watt heater on the MM is not going to raise water temps that much given the four minute pre-wash or rinse cycle. Even if incoming water was 140F it would likely only reach 143F by the end. This takes into account my model does not flush the sump before filling, so there is already cold water sitting inside the hoses and sump. Then the insulated tub and cold dishes are going to cool the water even further. At best the heater is helping the machine to maintain water temp by taking some of the chill off.
launderess
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Well It Was Fun While It Lasted
While running a load tonight after the machine emptied the main wash water and then filled for the first rinse, nothing. One can hear a humming sound but the pump and motor will not engage. Tried turning the timer dial to various cycles and the same. Machine will fill to a point, but stops once the overfill sensors (?) kick in.
Noticed a small green pool of liquid on the floor when moved the machine to the sink from it's cubby. Thought it was leaking rinse agent, but now will have to investigate further. Oh well at least the dishes are clean, now to take everything out, rinse, dry and put away. Once the machine cools will have no choice but to turn the thing over to dump out the water. Then can get underneath to see what the problem could be.
Oh well it was nice while it lasted.
While running a load tonight after the machine emptied the main wash water and then filled for the first rinse, nothing. One can hear a humming sound but the pump and motor will not engage. Tried turning the timer dial to various cycles and the same. Machine will fill to a point, but stops once the overfill sensors (?) kick in.
Noticed a small green pool of liquid on the floor when moved the machine to the sink from it's cubby. Thought it was leaking rinse agent, but now will have to investigate further. Oh well at least the dishes are clean, now to take everything out, rinse, dry and put away. Once the machine cools will have no choice but to turn the thing over to dump out the water. Then can get underneath to see what the problem could be.
Oh well it was nice while it lasted.
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