For Maytag Dishwasher Fans

[washer111]

<a name="start_52012.757983">"OTOH before all this nonsense started the sweet spots from say the 1970's to recent memory seemed find. That is given proper amounts of water dishwashers could complete a normal cycle in < one hour." </a>

 

And to start bragging (yet again) - they still can

Mine can, and will still deliver acceptable results. But I prefer "Delicates," which gives the same washing time (less pressure) as Normal (Which is supposed to be longer, but ISN'T) and a third rinse.

*Hint* *Hint* Launderess, find a Dish-Drawer and convert it to portable

 

The other thing is, I seem to recall you stating your Apartment's boilers keep the water at pretty reasonable temperatures - given this is the case, why even bother with "Automatic Water Heating" when you can purge the tap and get steaming hot water on tap?

That saves the old KitchenAid mantra of heating Pre-Wash water for at least 10 minutes, before draining it all out straight away, non-held heating in the (short) Main-Wash, and another hold for, what would be, a short final rinse!

 

[washer111]

Water Usage

I can't recall, from previous discussions, how many water changes these Maytag machines actually. have.

 

The good thing is, you shouldn't have trouble getting clean dishes from such a machine, given the amount of water used - and I suspect this water usage would also assist keeping the filters clean and really flushing trash off the dishes.

 

[jkbff]

I dunno, I have the previous model, 8595, and when you tell it to heat the water that water gets freaking hot... Like I've melted my rainbow pan that I've always been able to wash on the bottom rack in my other washers with heat boost and have had no issues. The water gets hot in these machines.. Thats with the heated dry turned off.

My KDS58 would boost to 140 and I've not melted anything, this thing must just hate plastic in the bottom rack because I've been melting stuff left and right.. Which, in its own way, is fine because its low quality plastic stuff that is stained that I'm trying as a last resort to clean but throw away anyways... I've slowly been switching my plastic stuff to glass or stoneware.

I've put pans with burned noodles, cheese, meats and what not and I haven't had a spot on them when they have come out. The only no scrub way that gets my stainless that clean is to put water in them and let them boil for a bit on the stove... I am impressed on how hot the machine gets.

I guess keep in mind that the heated wash is going to be different than the power blast plus steam option. You have the wash temp boosted to the 129 but at the end of the wash cycle, before the rinse process starts, the machine heats the soapy water to the NSF 180 steam temperatures. Thats where this machine kicks butt. After that, you'd have your rinse cycle and if you chose sanitize, it would steam again. (Heh this solves why the rainbow pan melted )

As far as water fills, I can't exactly tell you how many times it does a complete dump and fill, I'm thinking its 4 times, but I do know that with the soil sensor, this machine will gradually dump dirty gunky water out and fill as its dumping it. Its like the dirt is collected in a reservoir and emptied every so often. When I first got my machine it drained into a mop sink. I'd watch as it drained and all it really spit out was very dirty oily water. Its impressive.

Sorry for the late night ramblings.

 

[murando531]

I have the 4709 and it's the same way. I haven't had anything melt, but usually the cheap throwaway containers that I keep, just in case someone takes food home, go on the top rack, mostly because the bottom arm is strong and flips them over. Mine does a main wash and two rinses on Normal, and usually does a couple of Auto Filter Purges during the wash, and if you watch down the drain at what comes out, it's literally nothing but a soup of food junk. I usually don't add any options though, just Normal cycle, and steam usually starts coming out of the vent 15 minutes in. I've yet to take anything out that wasn't squeaky clean and spotless. I hope the new models will have the same Filter Purge process.

 

[murando531]

Here's the tech ed. packet for the Point Voyager machines. Page 9 has a really cool description on what all is happening when you hear the machine drain a little of the water out mid-wash.

http://https//secured.whirlpool.com...bdbd0ef763c85256cbc00520548/$FILE/8178022.pdf