I have come to the conclusion that nothing today meets 100% of what we are all looking for in a washer. Their are so many likes and things that one has and the other doesn't have.
One of the biggest issues with all these new front loaders is the time issue. They all run so long. I have also read some instruction booklets and certain things turn me off.
So I will give all the pros and cons as I see them. Please submit comments both positive and negative.
1st LG you all know how I feel but to make a long story short on this one - the service SUX. And parts are not available, many services do not want to touch LG The machine seems to be built more solidly than most giving a positive. Also water circulation is a positive But the cycles are excessively long due to spin balancing.
2nd Whirlpool Duet seems to be constructed well. But lack of full size baffels for rotating clothes. But are rated well for cleaning so they are doing something right. With this design in my opinion a negative is the lack of water circulation system. From what I hear they do balance clothes better and faster than LG. The negative for the Kenmore is the smoked glass windows.
I have read some instruction booklets online.
I viewed data on the DUET SPORT. First let me say the door design seems to be the strongest than most as a positive. They do have full size baffles compared to the Duet a positive. But less control over the cycle time. Like their is no Heavy Medium Light soil options. According to the book the heavy duty cycle runs about 85 minutes at full speed. The normal causal runs for 50 minutes at medium speed. What if I want to wash a Normal load with full speed? So that would rule this one for me. Also the better model offers a pre wash option, but their is no dispenser for pre wash and manual gives little information about it. It is my opinion that it is just a extended wash.
Speed Queen - I saw the newest model last week with the larger opening door. Impressive but lack of control and very stripped down. On the previous model they offered a 9 minute wash maximum and now this one offers only a 24 minute wash. Why don't they have adjustment to go in between? Also no provision for pre wash or soak.
Frigidaire - The best bang for the buck. Negative doesn't seem to be constructed as well as some others. The old frig more model stripped down to very basic. The next series the 2 models with the square door. Nice has many cycles but some very unnecessary. Normal and Heavy cycle should be combined basically the same except wash time settings. A positive with extra rinse setting you get a 4th rinse, and not any of the others to my knowledge can you get 4 rinses. Negative bleach goes in first rinse. That is easy to remedy by adding to main compartment after wash is running for your own pre determined time. As for the Affinity it is a stepped up version of the square door models but have fewer cycles and options. Does not have a pre wash like square door models do. Seems a little more solidly constructed. TOL model has heater on Sanitary cycle only.
GE – Not talking about Frig more model but newer larger China made machine. I still say it has some LG in it. Nice size drum and controls seem the simplest and most straight forward to use. But rumor has it balancing issues are a big problem with this machine and very long cycle times. I would also like to see that loose that tinted glass door.
Miele - Observed the 2 larger 4.0 models. Well constructed at least better than most. Lower model lacks rinse / spin and spin only feature. Upper model has a master control feature with these options that gives additional cycles like for curtains and denims. I don’t know what value that brings. I did like these machines but the lack of control with setting cycle time bothered me. For instance I was able to turn on the TOL unit without water of course it was in the show room. The extended option adds about 30 minutes to the normal cycle. No in between that’s what bothered me. The pre wash adds about another 25 minutes. Sensitive adds about 12 minutes, I assume that gives a extra rinse. It was strange seeing a bleach dispenser on a Miele. It was a attached compartment just above the detergent dispenser. I would be careful loading it seems like bleach can spill easily.
I would like to take this one out for a spin.
I spent a lot of time giving my opinions and my own ratings please give comments and feed back.
So what is the best to buy - we should design our own.
Peter
One of the biggest issues with all these new front loaders is the time issue. They all run so long. I have also read some instruction booklets and certain things turn me off.
So I will give all the pros and cons as I see them. Please submit comments both positive and negative.
1st LG you all know how I feel but to make a long story short on this one - the service SUX. And parts are not available, many services do not want to touch LG The machine seems to be built more solidly than most giving a positive. Also water circulation is a positive But the cycles are excessively long due to spin balancing.
2nd Whirlpool Duet seems to be constructed well. But lack of full size baffels for rotating clothes. But are rated well for cleaning so they are doing something right. With this design in my opinion a negative is the lack of water circulation system. From what I hear they do balance clothes better and faster than LG. The negative for the Kenmore is the smoked glass windows.
I have read some instruction booklets online.
I viewed data on the DUET SPORT. First let me say the door design seems to be the strongest than most as a positive. They do have full size baffles compared to the Duet a positive. But less control over the cycle time. Like their is no Heavy Medium Light soil options. According to the book the heavy duty cycle runs about 85 minutes at full speed. The normal causal runs for 50 minutes at medium speed. What if I want to wash a Normal load with full speed? So that would rule this one for me. Also the better model offers a pre wash option, but their is no dispenser for pre wash and manual gives little information about it. It is my opinion that it is just a extended wash.
Speed Queen - I saw the newest model last week with the larger opening door. Impressive but lack of control and very stripped down. On the previous model they offered a 9 minute wash maximum and now this one offers only a 24 minute wash. Why don't they have adjustment to go in between? Also no provision for pre wash or soak.
Frigidaire - The best bang for the buck. Negative doesn't seem to be constructed as well as some others. The old frig more model stripped down to very basic. The next series the 2 models with the square door. Nice has many cycles but some very unnecessary. Normal and Heavy cycle should be combined basically the same except wash time settings. A positive with extra rinse setting you get a 4th rinse, and not any of the others to my knowledge can you get 4 rinses. Negative bleach goes in first rinse. That is easy to remedy by adding to main compartment after wash is running for your own pre determined time. As for the Affinity it is a stepped up version of the square door models but have fewer cycles and options. Does not have a pre wash like square door models do. Seems a little more solidly constructed. TOL model has heater on Sanitary cycle only.
GE – Not talking about Frig more model but newer larger China made machine. I still say it has some LG in it. Nice size drum and controls seem the simplest and most straight forward to use. But rumor has it balancing issues are a big problem with this machine and very long cycle times. I would also like to see that loose that tinted glass door.
Miele - Observed the 2 larger 4.0 models. Well constructed at least better than most. Lower model lacks rinse / spin and spin only feature. Upper model has a master control feature with these options that gives additional cycles like for curtains and denims. I don’t know what value that brings. I did like these machines but the lack of control with setting cycle time bothered me. For instance I was able to turn on the TOL unit without water of course it was in the show room. The extended option adds about 30 minutes to the normal cycle. No in between that’s what bothered me. The pre wash adds about another 25 minutes. Sensitive adds about 12 minutes, I assume that gives a extra rinse. It was strange seeing a bleach dispenser on a Miele. It was a attached compartment just above the detergent dispenser. I would be careful loading it seems like bleach can spill easily.
I would like to take this one out for a spin.
I spent a lot of time giving my opinions and my own ratings please give comments and feed back.
So what is the best to buy - we should design our own.
Peter
