Has anyone ever made a fully automatic impellar tub washer? One that fills, washes, drains and rinses? All functions except the spin of course.
Fully Automatic Impellar Tub Washer
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Here is an example of an automatic impellar washers, except this one spins:
I know of twin tubs, and stand alone impellar washers, but all of them are manual fill and drain, and those with an electric drain pump require the user to manually set the washer to drain.
I'm thinking of one that is fully automatic.
I know of twin tubs, and stand alone impellar washers, but all of them are manual fill and drain, and those with an electric drain pump require the user to manually set the washer to drain.
I'm thinking of one that is fully automatic.
eemac
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I love those controls
I love the simplicity of the controls on that Hotpoint!
I love the simplicity of the controls on that Hotpoint!
Thats an interesting little machine. And I agree with EEMac about the simplicity of the controls. However, I think that the user needed to use at least twice the amount of that cheap detergent or a better detergent, then I think this machine would probably do a fine job of washing.
Eddie
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cfz2882
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Haier
I think the little Haier apartment size impeller top load is fully automatic (single inlet valve sink hookup)I have one in the collection,but the control PCB is bad and i havn't ran it.Some on here have this machine and really liked it-split capacitor motor reverses back and forth for decently agressive wash action.
I think the little Haier apartment size impeller top load is fully automatic (single inlet valve sink hookup)I have one in the collection,but the control PCB is bad and i havn't ran it.Some on here have this machine and really liked it-split capacitor motor reverses back and forth for decently agressive wash action.
I have a later GE version of that Hotpoint with three water levels, three cycles Regular, Delicate (shorter), and Perm Press (faux cool down with a cold spray before the agitated rinse). They don't spin after the wash, only the final spin at the end.
Simplicity
I could not agree more EEMac! I love, love the washer in this video. I wish there were full size versions of this machine. From very BOLs, to TOL programmed cycle washer. 80s Hotpoint font would have made everything all the more better.
Manufacturers could easily build a machine like this today at minimal cost. They already have the wash plates, motors and drive mechanisms in place to do so. The solenoid and a brake band used on Whirlpool portables could would rid of the lid locks, and a slightly smaller impeller could remove the gears from inside the VMW mechanism. If anything reliability would go up.
@cfz2882: Can you post pics of the Haier in your collection?
You make a perfect real world example of why electronics should not be in these simple washers, or really any washer for that matter. A good Midwest timer is all you need and will last for years without trouble or none sense.
And you hit the nail on the head- people fall in love with PSC motors when they try them. They are simple, durable, economical, efficient, cool running, can be reversed/cycled many times, accelerate slowly without a clutch when putting a basket into spin, and no centrifugal switch to fail- among a laundry list of other advantages.
I could not agree more EEMac! I love, love the washer in this video. I wish there were full size versions of this machine. From very BOLs, to TOL programmed cycle washer. 80s Hotpoint font would have made everything all the more better.
Manufacturers could easily build a machine like this today at minimal cost. They already have the wash plates, motors and drive mechanisms in place to do so. The solenoid and a brake band used on Whirlpool portables could would rid of the lid locks, and a slightly smaller impeller could remove the gears from inside the VMW mechanism. If anything reliability would go up.
@cfz2882: Can you post pics of the Haier in your collection?
You make a perfect real world example of why electronics should not be in these simple washers, or really any washer for that matter. A good Midwest timer is all you need and will last for years without trouble or none sense.
And you hit the nail on the head- people fall in love with PSC motors when they try them. They are simple, durable, economical, efficient, cool running, can be reversed/cycled many times, accelerate slowly without a clutch when putting a basket into spin, and no centrifugal switch to fail- among a laundry list of other advantages.
cfz2882
Well-known member
HLP 21N
Is the model of the haier washer described.Mine is in machines in need of repair storage.The PC board of the washer is like most asian washers potted in epoxy-making repairs all but impossible. several years ago,the HLP 21n sold for ~200$
Is the model of the haier washer described.Mine is in machines in need of repair storage.The PC board of the washer is like most asian washers potted in epoxy-making repairs all but impossible. several years ago,the HLP 21n sold for ~200$
Wait- I think the HLP21N spins, no?
Without the spinner I think the cost could be brought down.
Without the spinner I think the cost could be brought down.
cfz2882
Well-known member
yes
spins quite well-basicly it is a full feature washer shrank down to (i think) 18"
spins quite well-basicly it is a full feature washer shrank down to (i think) 18"
Avanti has been selling fully automatic impeller washing machines in USA for ages.
https://www.avantiproducts.com/products/compact-washing-machines-2
Black and Decker branded machine...
Magic Chef branded...
For various reasons fully automatic top loading washing machines using impeller instead of central beater have long been popular in Asian countries. As with the GE ,Hotpoint and other sort of machines of old that landed in North American markets, most of modern offerings either come from Asia, and or are based on their designs/technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgQ2Q_EULQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkT9hodHNhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhyt1RZ65Og
Impeller washing machines long have been considered easier on laundry than using central beater. Hence reason you see such designs going back to semi-automatic washing machines. There is also by removing central beater allows greater tub capacity.
This being said at least in many parts of Asia these machines aren't without issues.
Japan and many other Asian countries laundry is done in cold water, and these washers lack heaters. Even hooking a washing machine up to tap hot water can be an issue because many laundry areas lack dual taps. Some resort to installing washer close to bathroom where hot water can (hopefully) be found.
Consequence of doing washing in cold water, and leaving lid of washer down is tendency of machines to get a whiff after awhile from being fouled by mould growing inside. Hence there is a vast and bewildering array of antibacterial/disinfecting products sold in Japan and elsewhere. These washing machine "cleaners" are meant to cope with said issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aWKZidd7HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50CWKTJVLA
https://www.avantiproducts.com/products/compact-washing-machines-2
Black and Decker branded machine...
Magic Chef branded...
For various reasons fully automatic top loading washing machines using impeller instead of central beater have long been popular in Asian countries. As with the GE ,Hotpoint and other sort of machines of old that landed in North American markets, most of modern offerings either come from Asia, and or are based on their designs/technology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTgQ2Q_EULQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkT9hodHNhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhyt1RZ65Og
Impeller washing machines long have been considered easier on laundry than using central beater. Hence reason you see such designs going back to semi-automatic washing machines. There is also by removing central beater allows greater tub capacity.
This being said at least in many parts of Asia these machines aren't without issues.
Japan and many other Asian countries laundry is done in cold water, and these washers lack heaters. Even hooking a washing machine up to tap hot water can be an issue because many laundry areas lack dual taps. Some resort to installing washer close to bathroom where hot water can (hopefully) be found.
Consequence of doing washing in cold water, and leaving lid of washer down is tendency of machines to get a whiff after awhile from being fouled by mould growing inside. Hence there is a vast and bewildering array of antibacterial/disinfecting products sold in Japan and elsewhere. These washing machine "cleaners" are meant to cope with said issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aWKZidd7HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O50CWKTJVLA
Thank you for the vids! 
Never knew about the foam system, I'm glad to know it exists and gives me inspiration for a new filter flo system.
I think all those models spin as well.
Never knew about the foam system, I'm glad to know it exists and gives me inspiration for a new filter flo system. I think all those models spin as well.
I so wish they would do that. I have a old but bullet proof 2003 G.E. Harmony washer that is still going never a problem with it
but the stupid options are madding .. If I use mixed clothes setting there is never enough water . I know this is a eco washer but how can clothes get clean if half of them are dry and don't get wet , I have found clothes at the end of the wash that has tide still on them. There is no low ,med , high water button .
I have gave up and wash everything in blankets that make the machine fill all they way up . Damn that washer is almost 20 years old it just hit me.
but the stupid options are madding .. If I use mixed clothes setting there is never enough water . I know this is a eco washer but how can clothes get clean if half of them are dry and don't get wet , I have found clothes at the end of the wash that has tide still on them. There is no low ,med , high water button .
I have gave up and wash everything in blankets that make the machine fill all they way up . Damn that washer is almost 20 years old it just hit me.
Can you make a video of the GE Harmony washing on bulky?
I hear you, the touch controls ruin it. Another washer that could /should have gone with a timer dial. And a water level selector. Impellar washers are promising, but sadly to few no nonsense ones have been sold in the US.
I hear you, the touch controls ruin it. Another washer that could /should have gone with a timer dial. And a water level selector. Impellar washers are promising, but sadly to few no nonsense ones have been sold in the US.
I FOUND A VIDEO OF AN AUTOMATIC!
Ok, so after months of searching I finally found a video featuring a fully automatic twin tub washer. I'm befuddled why more of these were not made, they are so cool!
Ok, so after months of searching I finally found a video featuring a fully automatic twin tub washer. I'm befuddled why more of these were not made, they are so cool!
Suds galore in the last rinse and the water is far from clear. Clearly evidence that such machines are useless when they don't spin between rinses. How much more evidence do you want?
You can keep this fully automatic twin tub
I will stick to my manually operated one that has a superb spinner which you pretty much remove most of the detergent with the first spin, 2 rinses and a 1 deep rinse and everything is clean and it will heat the water too.
I will stick to my manually operated one that has a superb spinner which you pretty much remove most of the detergent with the first spin, 2 rinses and a 1 deep rinse and everything is clean and it will heat the water too.
No mould when dried out and given a wipe.
Those look nice, but take extra work. I like having the ability to either walk away or watch the action on the side lines.
I will admit the rinsing isn't so great in the above vid.
I will admit the rinsing isn't so great in the above vid.
