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bobofhollywood

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Has anybody here seen an 18" turntable before? I swear I never have...but I just acquired one.

It's a Gates transcription turntable, from 1955, and it originally had a Gray Research viscous damped tone arm on it...now missing..

I'll post photos later.
 
There was 16" records back then. They spun at 78rpm and the big discs were used to record or playback radio shows. Were there 18" records too?
 
I have 16" records that go with the Frigidaire sales training filmstrips. **BEEP**

I've never seen any records larger than 16" but I would imagine they too come in all sizes.

I have a Magnavox Illustravox combination filmstrip projector and 16" record player to use with the training kit. Anyone up for popcorn and "How The Unimatic Washer Is Made"?
 
Whirly Pop

I HAD one until Hurricane Katrina. It's floating around there with my Bodum Santos vacuum pot. That thing isn't automatic but makes GREAT popcorn.
 
Yes,I have seen and worked on 16" transcription TT's.these were common in radio stations at that time.This was in the era before tape "cart" mnachines.Spots,announcements,etc were recorded on the discs.Have also seen the disc recorders-often called "recording lathes"At the place I work at they used to use them in the Wash DC studio plant.I have some transcriptions-found them during renovations.also have a few blank discs somewhere.--"Audiodiscs"Usually came in a box of ten-in various grades and two main sizes-16" and 12".They were aluminum discs with a black laquer coating that you recorded on.Neunman and Scully made the recording machines.It took some skill to use the recorder-there was a tonearm on the machine for test playbacks and a microscope so you could examine the groove you just cut for imperfections.The lathe was also connected to a vacuum system to remove the "chip" as the disc was cut.Sadly I came in to work when they just stopped using the disc machines and got rid of them.I wanted to use them.would have been fun.Its still being done today but on a smaller scale.endless loop cart machines replaced the Discs,and now--Digital recording playback and programming management programs for PC's have replaced the cart machines.You can still get parts for Gates TT's from Harris --They are the largest supplier of broadcast equipment.usually the idler wheels on these need cleaning or replacement.On your unit-leave its speed selector lever in a "neutral" position-in between the speeds-to avoid flats on the idler tires-had to remind DJ's about that all of the time-If you do have flat spots on the idler-set the TT to 78RPM speed and let it run for severla minutes-most of the time this will correct the flat spots.Also there are speed adjust screws for each speed-use a small screwdriver and a strobe dics and light for setting TT speed.A flourescent lamp makes a good strobe.Adjusted many of these in a studio using the flourescent lights as TT strobe lights. Good luck with your Gates TT.
 
GATES PHOTO

It looks bigger in person.

This photo also shows my Thorens TD124, which is a regular sized turntable with a 12 inch platter - not small by any means.

On the gates, with a 16 inch record on the table, there'an inch of table sticking out all around, that's why I say I think it's an 18 inch platter.

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WOW, looks like WKRP in Cincinatti. AWESOME!!!

Pete, unfortunately I don't have either, but we have a real popcorn machine at work that makes movie theater popcorn.
 
WBOB IN HOLLYWOOD

The turntable once belonged to WHFS here in Maryland and was used as one of their remote tables (it rode around on a truck most of it's life).

The guy I got it from 'converted' it to Stereo and created that wooden arm you see in the photo, but it is my goal to restore this as a true MONO Hi-Fi turntable, and use the GE Variable reductance pickup that it would have been mated with when new. I do have one of those pickups, and may well mount it onto that wooden arm until such a time as a viscous damped Gray Research tonearm makes it's way into my life at some point.

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Wow, Bob, that's one spectacular TT! Congrats on getting it; I know it'll be appreciated.

Have you listened to that record from the Treasury Department? Is it as boring as I think it is? ;)

veg

Oh, P.S. I couldn't just leave this alone and unloved:
QUOTE: "It looks bigger in person."
Hey! That's MY line!
 
WOW!. I have seen these records at flea markets and shops before, but I've never seen a turntable. Really cool!.... Thanks for sharing the pics.
 
In the 70's

I had a Gray Research transcription turntable with a viscous damped arm and an external rim drive for the 20# cork covered platter. To change speeds, you would have to change a sleeve on the capstan.
 
Another use for 16" transcription records was for "VitaPhone"soundtracks for Vitaphone movies-usually were early jazz programmed.These would be VERY valueable-esp if you had the film that goes with them.The projector had a TT that was synced to the projector picture head.The projector and its TT were turned by the same motor.One record played for one reel of film.If it got out of sync or miscued-the projectionist would "nudge" the arm to the right position.vitaphone projectionists got good at that-Vitaphone was the first movie soundtracks.They were before "sound on film" tracks we know today.Yes I have dealt with the Gates TT shown in the picture-And on occasion thorens TT similar to the picture with the Gates.some small radio stations used the Thorens-as well as audiophiles-an excellent TT even by todays standards.Thorens still makes TT's today-marketed to the "high end" hi-fi industry.
 
View the Constellations

Toggles,
You are right, there is a fallen constellation next to the record player. I didn't hear about it on the news.
Kelly
 
I just realized that a common shop lathe could be used as a cylindrical recording phonograph... but I don't think my employer would be interested ;-)

I saw a recording phonograph way back in 1969. Some gents that were renting a room in their house had one, and demonstrated it to me. Turned out they were Moonies so I didn't move in, tho. But it was a nice machine.

Here's a little gem I picked up at a garage sale in Berkeley about 20 years ago. It's a Japanese made tube-type 5" reel-reel tape recorder. The recording sound level meter is a "green eye" type of tube. Very entertaining to watch. It still works just fine - I was able to use it to transfer some old tapes I made in the 60's to cassette.

Photos of Hosho tape recorder to follow in another message...
 
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