pierreandreply4
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could it be that for canada this model is special order then because i see they added the instruction in french?
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sudsmaster
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Perhaps if you call the GE Canada office they can help you? I'm sure they will speak French as well.
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I believe I saw these at home depot. Now, i'd love to see a full cycle video of these in action. I'd like to see what they can do.
I believe I saw these at home depot. Now, i'd love to see a full cycle video of these in action. I'd like to see what they can do.
mitchleitman
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I think that GE Canada is separate from USA. GE Canada was acquired by MABE (from Mexico a number of years ago). I don't know how that interconnects with the Haier-owned US company. I believe that GE were a minority shareholder in GE Canada.
jaums
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US Engineered, China Made
On their website, GE interestingly answers the question "where is it made" by pointing out these washers are engineered in the US and made in China. The matching dryers made in the US.
Have seen posts complaining that the whites of the washer vs dryer do not match. Hmmmm.
On their website, GE interestingly answers the question "where is it made" by pointing out these washers are engineered in the US and made in China. The matching dryers made in the US.
Have seen posts complaining that the whites of the washer vs dryer do not match. Hmmmm.
jaums
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GE Ultrafresh Reverse Door Swing Vid
GE's video on how to reverse the washer door swing.
GE's video on how to reverse the washer door swing.
Whirlpool had similar color mismatch issues
Duet/Kenmore He T front loaders were made in Germany until the direct drive models produced in Clyde Ohio were released in late 2010/early 2011. Over the years saw complaints the colors of the dryers and the washers didn't match between the product produced in Germany vs. dryers produced in the U.S.
Duet/Kenmore He T front loaders were made in Germany until the direct drive models produced in Clyde Ohio were released in late 2010/early 2011. Over the years saw complaints the colors of the dryers and the washers didn't match between the product produced in Germany vs. dryers produced in the U.S.
sudsmaster
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Jaums,
Thanks so much for that video. I was trying to figure out how it was done before I buy one of these units. The video also answered the question of whether the "lock bar" comes with the washer. Very nice.
Thanks so much for that video. I was trying to figure out how it was done before I buy one of these units. The video also answered the question of whether the "lock bar" comes with the washer. Very nice.
guidelines
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Is this spin noise normal?
We just had a GE UltraFresh installed. It's the mid-level model, GFW650SSNWW. Please have a look/listen at a short ramp from early in the spins cycle... is the grumble from the motor normal? To my ears, it's shockingly loud.
We just had a GE UltraFresh installed. It's the mid-level model, GFW650SSNWW. Please have a look/listen at a short ramp from early in the spins cycle... is the grumble from the motor normal? To my ears, it's shockingly loud.
Are you referring to the whirring sound of the drum motor ramping up? Or the noises of the pump cycling on/off?
guidelines
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I’m referring to the drum motor. The pump sounds normal to me, like any washer pump. The drum motor sounds like it’s in pain to me.
Apparently the motor noise is normal for this GE design. Here's an appliance dealer's recent (empty) test run of a different model from that line.
Skip to 45 mins for the final spin.
That groaning noise reminds me
of the maytag neptunes when they first came out.
of the maytag neptunes when they first came out.
guidelines
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I'm planning to call for service. I'm not happy that a $1000 washer in 2020 sounds like this. Of course, I do have a concern they'll tell me it's normal -- in which case, I may be testing their customer service commitment, because I would've gone for the Electrolux, which also has reversible doors. I do love the dispenser and everything else about the unit.
Interestingly, I am finding the noise is evident when you simply spin the drum by hand. You can hear the groaning pretty clearly.
The UltraFresh Vent cycle, the washer's marquee feature, spins the drum off and on at a moderate clip for a few hours -- and then this groaning noise is louder due to the increased speed and gets really annoying.
Agree on the Maytag Neptune comparison -- we had an MAH7500 that came with the original motor/control board (I swapped it later with warranty parts) and it sounded very similar during start-stop, but I don't recall it getting so bad during spin. However, that was a long time ago!
Interestingly, I am finding the noise is evident when you simply spin the drum by hand. You can hear the groaning pretty clearly.
The UltraFresh Vent cycle, the washer's marquee feature, spins the drum off and on at a moderate clip for a few hours -- and then this groaning noise is louder due to the increased speed and gets really annoying.
Agree on the Maytag Neptune comparison -- we had an MAH7500 that came with the original motor/control board (I swapped it later with warranty parts) and it sounded very similar during start-stop, but I don't recall it getting so bad during spin. However, that was a long time ago!
Electrolux washers are just as loud, if not louder than your GE because they are also belt-driven and have loud pump motors. If you want a true quiet washer, get a direct drive washer like a LG. LG has very quiet pumps too since they are DC vs. AC in the GE and Electrolux.
guidelines
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I appreciate the feedback. We'll see what the tech says and try to keep an open mind. Everything else about the machine is spot on.
I have to say, if the sound truly is normal -- I'm finding less and less credibility to CR's ratings -- which rates LG, Electrolux, Whirlpool, and these GEs all "Noise: 4 out of 5, Very Good" I guess it's all relative!
I have to say, if the sound truly is normal -- I'm finding less and less credibility to CR's ratings -- which rates LG, Electrolux, Whirlpool, and these GEs all "Noise: 4 out of 5, Very Good" I guess it's all relative!
Does the GE have a belt with ridges? The Maytag Neptune has IIRC, perhaps that is the reason for the specific noise.
mark_wpduet
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that microban for the rubber seal and the detergent tray is fantastic! I can't believe the other manufacturers haven't done that. I LOVE the way the drum looks on this......I hate that it doesn't have recirculation though. I still say that either LG or Elux will be my next FL washer unless WP comes out with something new B4 it's time for me to buy a new one.
How long will that microban last though ? Mark if I may. There is nothing wrong with the current Whirlpool front load washers unless there is some recall but I know that would have been posted here.
Some people get lemons and that happens in all makes. Just how life is. My first front loader was the WFW6620 and I tell you if I would have known a few months ago what I know now I would have taken it with me.
It washed and rinsed very well. It got excellent for cleaning in Consumer reports if I recall correctly.
Hopefully the people who work for Whirlpool on this site see these posts and take peoples concerns seriously.
For all of Whirlpool's missteps I would hate, and I know many others would hate to see another US iconic name go under.
Some people get lemons and that happens in all makes. Just how life is. My first front loader was the WFW6620 and I tell you if I would have known a few months ago what I know now I would have taken it with me.
It washed and rinsed very well. It got excellent for cleaning in Consumer reports if I recall correctly.
Hopefully the people who work for Whirlpool on this site see these posts and take peoples concerns seriously.
For all of Whirlpool's missteps I would hate, and I know many others would hate to see another US iconic name go under.
pierreandreply4
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i would consider a brand like lg if you have to change
if you have to change i would maybe consider the lg brand the model in the pic is lg wm4500HBA
if you have to change i would maybe consider the lg brand the model in the pic is lg wm4500HBA
sudsmaster
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I've had a Neptune MAH7500 for about 20 years now, and never noticed undue motor spin noise. It also got a control board swap after a couple of years (the spider cracked under extended warranty). And the washer sits in an open alcove in the middle of the home's living area, so I think I'd notice. Or, maybe, motor noises don't bother me.
guidelines
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Agree, with the updated motor/control the Neptunes are very quiet in operation. In my experience the first version was more of a crapshoot with respect to noise.
Yes, the 3000 had a very typical sound to it, especially when it started spinning. I have no experience with other Neptunes.
Maytag neptune vs GE freshvent
When I compare the sounds of the early neptunes and these GE's, they sound very similar, nearly the same especially during wash/rinse.
When I compare the sounds of the early neptunes and these GE's, they sound very similar, nearly the same especially during wash/rinse.
jerrod_six
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More water option on GE
This option allows more water to be used in the wash and rinse. I read the owners manuals and I only see the option on the 2 lower models. The TOL model appears not to have it.
This option allows more water to be used in the wash and rinse. I read the owners manuals and I only see the option on the 2 lower models. The TOL model appears not to have it.
mark_wpduet
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I wonder what they were thinking leaving that off the TOL model? Is the TOL the only model with a heater or does MOL have one too? I'm sure BOL is heaterless
It may be left off the
TOL models because the heavy duty cycle uses extra water for that cycle on TOL models (at least my GE front loaders do that). Just a guess.
TOL models because the heavy duty cycle uses extra water for that cycle on TOL models (at least my GE front loaders do that). Just a guess.
guidelines
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MOL (650) has a heater and the associated steam and sanitize cycles.
Regarding my original post, here is a video of the noise I hear during the UltraFresh venting cycle. As I understand it, a damper is opened and it spins the drum every so often to dry everything out. It works well, but runs for a few to several hours.
Regarding my original post, here is a video of the noise I hear during the UltraFresh venting cycle. As I understand it, a damper is opened and it spins the drum every so often to dry everything out. It works well, but runs for a few to several hours.
jaums
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The fresh vent
I understand consists of a fan, maybe something like the one in the link below but inside the cabinet, and drum rotation, 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off until a sensor or sensor find things have dried.
I suppose they tested, but it seems like all that drum rotation would be excessive, but the fan seems like a good, simple idea.
https://washerfan.com/
I understand consists of a fan, maybe something like the one in the link below but inside the cabinet, and drum rotation, 15 minutes on, 15 minutes off until a sensor or sensor find things have dried.
I suppose they tested, but it seems like all that drum rotation would be excessive, but the fan seems like a good, simple idea.
https://washerfan.com/
guidelines
Member
I actually inquired with GE about this feature. Here is their reply. Note the use of the word “quiet.” I’m convinced my machine is faulty.
The Ultra Fresh Vent System is identical across all Ultra Fresh models. While keeping the door closed and when the basket spins, it creates air flow that pulls fresh air into the washer through the vent in the door while the tub quietly spins in 15-minute increments on and off until the gasket and washer tub are dry (up to 8 hours). If you would like to read more about how this system works, I recommend you check out this article: https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-support-search-content?contentId=39770
The Ultra Fresh Vent System is identical across all Ultra Fresh models. While keeping the door closed and when the basket spins, it creates air flow that pulls fresh air into the washer through the vent in the door while the tub quietly spins in 15-minute increments on and off until the gasket and washer tub are dry (up to 8 hours). If you would like to read more about how this system works, I recommend you check out this article: https://products.geappliances.com/appliance/gea-support-search-content?contentId=39770
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