I can't figure out the Hot Start Option on my Nautilus. Manual claims that it "heats the wash water". But it drains just prior to the main wash. And since the first fill/drain is so short the detergent can't do much in that wash. So how does the Hot Start function?
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mrb627
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I would assume that it would heat the water to warm up the interior of the machine. You may want to pull the kick plate and see if the technical instructions are there. They should explain the operation of your model.
Malcolm
I would assume that it would heat the water to warm up the interior of the machine. You may want to pull the kick plate and see if the technical instructions are there. They should explain the operation of your model.
Malcolm
Malcolm, Interesting idea. With the tank hot and dishes hot there would be less mass to heat up to temp.
My experience...HOT start
While we couldn't stand the noise our Nautilus really took anything you could load into it. Our example would heat up the calrod for about 7 minutes before introducing hot water into the chamber, it really made for an incredibly HOT pre-wash! We swapped it out several years ago for a Whirlpool TT
While we couldn't stand the noise our Nautilus really took anything you could load into it. Our example would heat up the calrod for about 7 minutes before introducing hot water into the chamber, it really made for an incredibly HOT pre-wash! We swapped it out several years ago for a Whirlpool TT
Mixfinder, mine doesn't seem to do that. The first fill is a wash with no purge and is very short so the whole batch of detergent is lost, the rest of the "hot start" cycle is rinses until the regular "start" which begins the main wash.
Stainfighter, mine has the annoying pause between inital motor start and water inlet but the calrod doesn't heat and yes, it is god awful noisy.
Stainfighter, mine has the annoying pause between inital motor start and water inlet but the calrod doesn't heat and yes, it is god awful noisy.
pierreandreply4
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maybe your dishwasher is ment to be use with cascade detergent tablets i have a kenmore dishwasher and me thats what i use as the first wash is more like a rinse or the dishwasher is sensing the load before the main wash?
Pierre, the Nautilus is pretty much low to mid end. Mine is the 2200 with the pots/pan cycle which is interesting because the next one up has exactly the same wash times and water use but has "heavy wash" instead of pots/pans. The manual says p/p will clean baked on crud, but h/w won't. Anyway these little gems don't have sensors.
mrb627
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Hot Purge
I wonder why manufactures want the operator to purge the hot water line before starting the machine. Why not just build that into the beginning of the cycle?
Malcolm
I wonder why manufactures want the operator to purge the hot water line before starting the machine. Why not just build that into the beginning of the cycle?
Malcolm
Agree about line purging. Almost all DW manuals and detergent instructions say to "let the water at the tap run hot before starting the machine".
I could see doing that in the day when cycle times were much shorter and many machines did not have heaters. On modern machines the cycle times are so long, even if one purges the line before starting, the water in the lines gets cool before the next fill.
If they built a purge into the beginning of the cycle, it would affect their EnergyStar rating...God forbid they let that happen.
I could see doing that in the day when cycle times were much shorter and many machines did not have heaters. On modern machines the cycle times are so long, even if one purges the line before starting, the water in the lines gets cool before the next fill.
If they built a purge into the beginning of the cycle, it would affect their EnergyStar rating...God forbid they let that happen.
pierreandreply4
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not with my dishwasher and my dishwasher is a kenmore elite
well with my dishwasher and me using the smart wash cycle it is not needed as it heats the water as it sense the load of dirty dishes inside and i also have the high temp option always active as well.
well with my dishwasher and me using the smart wash cycle it is not needed as it heats the water as it sense the load of dirty dishes inside and i also have the high temp option always active as well.
arbilab
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I have been 'hot starting' dishwashers since 1981. When I figured out that it took half a fill for the hot water to actually reach the DW. So I run the faucet until hot THEN start DW.
Doing that for every fill, even at my laid-back tank temp of 115F, the DW works great. If your heater temp is the DW-recommended 140F and half of it is slab temp (70F, summer), that's only 105F tub temp.
Truly functional 'hot start' should run fill water down the drain until it reached at least 105F. I mean, what else is all this Star Trek sensor/computer nonsense good for?
Doing that for every fill, even at my laid-back tank temp of 115F, the DW works great. If your heater temp is the DW-recommended 140F and half of it is slab temp (70F, summer), that's only 105F tub temp.
Truly functional 'hot start' should run fill water down the drain until it reached at least 105F. I mean, what else is all this Star Trek sensor/computer nonsense good for?
appliguy
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The hot start feature has nothing to do with purging the wat
According to the owners manual for my 2009 GE Dishwasher, the hot start option is used when you have heavily soiled or dried on/baked on soils. It says it adds 20 minutes to the wash cycle when selected. I have used this feature many times and from what I have observed all it does is turn on the heating element during the pre rinses of the cycle you have chossen and heats the water to enhance the pre rinsing ability of the dishwasher. When I have used the hot start feature in conjunction with putting extra detergent in the second detergent compartment of the dishwasher and using the hot wash option as well it has given me great results even with baked on/ dried on food....PAT COFFEY
According to the owners manual for my 2009 GE Dishwasher, the hot start option is used when you have heavily soiled or dried on/baked on soils. It says it adds 20 minutes to the wash cycle when selected. I have used this feature many times and from what I have observed all it does is turn on the heating element during the pre rinses of the cycle you have chossen and heats the water to enhance the pre rinsing ability of the dishwasher. When I have used the hot start feature in conjunction with putting extra detergent in the second detergent compartment of the dishwasher and using the hot wash option as well it has given me great results even with baked on/ dried on food....PAT COFFEY
pierreandreply4
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maybe but it also depends on the dishwasher some may need to have the water running from the faucet first but not the dishwasher i have as soon as the cycle start as my dishwasher fills its starts heating the water as it sense the load while filling and in the end i get clean dishes.
Pat, I think you cracked the code! Found this on the Appliance Web as well:
Posted by sparky823 (My Page) on Wed, Jan 16, 08 at 0:44
The Hot Start is where the heating element comes on in the first fill to heat the water to get the dishes "warmed" before the main wash--at least this is what GE told me back when I was looking and I asked about this feature. I am not sure but I think it is designed to heat to 95degrees for Hot Start because you know that most first fills are cold water if you don't run the sink first. Even then you have the cold tub,dishes,and leftover water in sump from previous run.
About the wattage: My water heating watts are 840. When I was talking to GE before I also asked then about wattage and the model I asked about listed the "Calrod" as they call it, as being 1200 watts. When I asked the lady about this she said "I can't believe this is correct". "It is an Energy Star machine and I don't believe that this is right", but then she never found anything else on that model that said different. Although on another model I checked the wattage was 825 for water heating and 665 for dry because it too had a "multi-watt" element. My old GE just had a straight 500 watt element.
Posted by sparky823 (My Page) on Wed, Jan 16, 08 at 0:44
The Hot Start is where the heating element comes on in the first fill to heat the water to get the dishes "warmed" before the main wash--at least this is what GE told me back when I was looking and I asked about this feature. I am not sure but I think it is designed to heat to 95degrees for Hot Start because you know that most first fills are cold water if you don't run the sink first. Even then you have the cold tub,dishes,and leftover water in sump from previous run.
About the wattage: My water heating watts are 840. When I was talking to GE before I also asked then about wattage and the model I asked about listed the "Calrod" as they call it, as being 1200 watts. When I asked the lady about this she said "I can't believe this is correct". "It is an Energy Star machine and I don't believe that this is right", but then she never found anything else on that model that said different. Although on another model I checked the wattage was 825 for water heating and 665 for dry because it too had a "multi-watt" element. My old GE just had a straight 500 watt element.
whirlcool
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I thought you got your fuel/RPM mixture wrong and when you started your jet engine, a wall of flames about 25 feet long came out the back of the engine. Now THAT'S a Hot Start!
mark_wpduet
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Hot Start
I saw this on a friend's GE dishwasher just the other day and I wondered what it meant. That sounds like a GREAT idea! Get it hot at the beginning and it stays hot throughout. They should all do this, especially if you set your delay start since there will be no one to purge the cold water.
I saw this on a friend's GE dishwasher just the other day and I wondered what it meant. That sounds like a GREAT idea! Get it hot at the beginning and it stays hot throughout. They should all do this, especially if you set your delay start since there will be no one to purge the cold water.
pierreandreply4
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me it is not needed since at the end of the cycle i can just press the cancel button and the machine purges the excess water.
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