Another machine with the "SPIN-SPLODE" action!show your freinds!Tell your neighbors-have them watch your washers SPIN-SPLODE action-pretend its a GE jet engine on the test stand!At least the GE jet engines haven't spin- sploded --YET.
GE Recalls 62,000 Front-load Washers Citing Injury Hazard
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whirlcool
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I wounder what the fix will be as it would be very expensive to replace the wash tub with a stronger one.
They'll probably take the machine back and give the owner a certificate for $100 off on any new GE machine.
They'll probably take the machine back and give the owner a certificate for $100 off on any new GE machine.
Iowegian love that term
"when they grenade"!! Gonna use that one!
"when they grenade"!! Gonna use that one!
The new Frigidaire (made by Electrolux) machines seem to be holding together. Haven't read of any catastrophic failures during the spin cycle. Mine spins at 1300 rpm, and I can certainly see the potential for injury if that baby would try to escape its moorings.
tecnopolis
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How do we know what those cheap and dishonest Chinese manufacturers are putting in your toothpaste? Thank goodness you don't ingest it.
With their prior record, it seems to span across various industries, so nothing is immune, Baby formula, drywall, lead-laced painted toys and now inferior build quality on major appliances. Did Jack Welch move to CHINA?
Outsourcing has stained the history of once great companies in the name of saving a buck. Sounds good at the board meeting, but in execution, it has been a disaster.
They build beautiful cities in CHINA with our money, and we can't even get a rusty bridge that thousands of commuters rely on, fixed without it collapsing first.
With their prior record, it seems to span across various industries, so nothing is immune, Baby formula, drywall, lead-laced painted toys and now inferior build quality on major appliances. Did Jack Welch move to CHINA?
Outsourcing has stained the history of once great companies in the name of saving a buck. Sounds good at the board meeting, but in execution, it has been a disaster.
They build beautiful cities in CHINA with our money, and we can't even get a rusty bridge that thousands of commuters rely on, fixed without it collapsing first.
tecnopolis
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I suspect GE is more concerned with building high tech jet engines and aerospace components to be bothered by Aunt Milly's washer troubles.
Funny, you don't see them building those in CHINA.
I have already decided I'd rather buy old, than new made in CHINA.
Funny, you don't see them building those in CHINA.
I have already decided I'd rather buy old, than new made in CHINA.
@tolivac:
While GE jet engines are good, they do fail, sometimes with really bad results. Most notable is United Flight 232 that crashed at Sioux City, IA in 1989. They had an unconfined failure (a spin-splode) of one of their GE engines. Shrapnel from the engine took out the main and backup flight control hydraulics.
See link for another example of one that failed on the ground...
http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/belfast/AA763EngineFire-3.htm
While GE jet engines are good, they do fail, sometimes with really bad results. Most notable is United Flight 232 that crashed at Sioux City, IA in 1989. They had an unconfined failure (a spin-splode) of one of their GE engines. Shrapnel from the engine took out the main and backup flight control hydraulics.
See link for another example of one that failed on the ground...
http://www.iasa-intl.com/folders/belfast/AA763EngineFire-3.htm
pierreandreply4
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lucky so far whirlpool or maytag brands fl washers have not been hit yet...
whirlcool
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GE has moved their jet engine manufacturing to Brazil from the United States.
They have had a history with the GE-90 engine coming apart in the air. For awhile Air France had a large part of their 777 fleet grounded due to this. Then when they were able to fly again they couldn't go direct over the Atlantic, but had to take a circuitous route along the coasts of Newfoundland, Greenlan, Iceland before making it to Europe. This added about 2.5 hours flying time to their routes.
Now the authorithies say that where an engine is made doesn't have any bearing on how it will perform, but you can make your own conclusions.
And some airlines are outsourcing their aircraft maintenance to places like Costa Rica where they can get it done cheaper than by their own mechanics.
And let's not harp on all the pet dogs that China killed with their contaminated wheat our dog food companies bought just so some guy on a board of directors can bring a few bucks home more than he did last week.
They have had a history with the GE-90 engine coming apart in the air. For awhile Air France had a large part of their 777 fleet grounded due to this. Then when they were able to fly again they couldn't go direct over the Atlantic, but had to take a circuitous route along the coasts of Newfoundland, Greenlan, Iceland before making it to Europe. This added about 2.5 hours flying time to their routes.
Now the authorithies say that where an engine is made doesn't have any bearing on how it will perform, but you can make your own conclusions.
And some airlines are outsourcing their aircraft maintenance to places like Costa Rica where they can get it done cheaper than by their own mechanics.
And let's not harp on all the pet dogs that China killed with their contaminated wheat our dog food companies bought just so some guy on a board of directors can bring a few bucks home more than he did last week.
Besides the new GE washers-now guess you have to be concerned with the Spin-Splode action if the plane you are riding on is powered by GE engines.What happened to Pratt&whitney?The engines and part building in Brazil and Costa Rica is of concern-and----GE moved their medical X-Ray division to China!!Guess now you have to worry if you are X-Rayed at the dentist or doctors office--and WAIT---Many diagnostic X-Ray machines have----ROTATING X-Ray tube anodes.Hope the X-Ray tube doesn't spin splode above you while your X-Rays are taken!
whirlcool
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Fortunately the 777 (which used the GE engine) is capable of even taking off with a full load on one engine. So shutting down an exploded engine in flight is not that big a deal anymore.
What was a big deal was about two years ago a Qantas A380 with Rolls Royce engines had an engine explode on it's way from Australia to London. When it exploded it punctured a few holes in the wings, damaged the flaps and punctured the fuselage causing a cabin decompression. It took about 18 months to repair the aircraft and return it to the air. The Qantas crew did some fancy flying to keep it in the air for two more hours after the engine had what's known as an "uncontained" engine failure.
About 10 years ago Delta had a MD80 engine explode on takeoff from Pensacola, FL and parts from the engine punctured the fuselage and debris from the engine killed a few passengers. But I don't know if they were GE engines.
Pratt & Whitney is still around. When you order an aircraft you choose what brand engines you want. But a few aircraft only come with one brand of engines.
What was a big deal was about two years ago a Qantas A380 with Rolls Royce engines had an engine explode on it's way from Australia to London. When it exploded it punctured a few holes in the wings, damaged the flaps and punctured the fuselage causing a cabin decompression. It took about 18 months to repair the aircraft and return it to the air. The Qantas crew did some fancy flying to keep it in the air for two more hours after the engine had what's known as an "uncontained" engine failure.
About 10 years ago Delta had a MD80 engine explode on takeoff from Pensacola, FL and parts from the engine punctured the fuselage and debris from the engine killed a few passengers. But I don't know if they were GE engines.
Pratt & Whitney is still around. When you order an aircraft you choose what brand engines you want. But a few aircraft only come with one brand of engines.
The MD-80s (& DC-9 & MD-81) have Pratt & Whitney JT8D-xx series engines. They are/were used in Boeing 727s, early 737s and some DC-8s.
No manufacturer is immune to problems...it's pretty amazing more of them don't fail, given the RPM, temperatures and pressures present in those engines - some really good engineering going on.
No manufacturer is immune to problems...it's pretty amazing more of them don't fail, given the RPM, temperatures and pressures present in those engines - some really good engineering going on.
SWAN song
Had GE not moved a lot of washer production to Kentucky, the spin-splode variety of washers could have been GE's "SWAN SONG" ?
Had GE not moved a lot of washer production to Kentucky, the spin-splode variety of washers could have been GE's "SWAN SONG" ?
"GE has moved their jet engine manufacturing to Brazil f
I don't think that is true. This article says they have 9000 employees in Ohio at six facilities and are hiring more.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/ge-aviation-to-grow-local-workforce/nSWPG/
I don't think that is true. This article says they have 9000 employees in Ohio at six facilities and are hiring more.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/ge-aviation-to-grow-local-workforce/nSWPG/
Rising Shipping & Local Labour Costs
Are rapidly negating the benefits of transfering manufacturing of many items overseas.
The local populations of China, Mexico, South America etc are waking up and demanding better wages and or working conditions. Political unstability as in newly elected leaders coming to power and nationalising various industries in whole or part also presents a risk.
OTHO conditions on the ground not only in "Right To Work" states, but former strong union places such as the "Rust Belt"/Mid-West have shifted to bring labour costs down. Indeed for the most part labour unions attempts to force issues by going on strike have gone no where. Some Caterpillar workers recently had to throw in the towel and return to work from a strike out of the very real fear the company would simply pack up their plant and move house.
As Obamacare takes hold and businesses either see a reduction in their employee healthcare costs, or simply shift them all together to the public (via paying employees a lump sum to go out and find their own insurance), that will bring the cost of production down, this should in theory help manufacturing.
Are rapidly negating the benefits of transfering manufacturing of many items overseas.
The local populations of China, Mexico, South America etc are waking up and demanding better wages and or working conditions. Political unstability as in newly elected leaders coming to power and nationalising various industries in whole or part also presents a risk.
OTHO conditions on the ground not only in "Right To Work" states, but former strong union places such as the "Rust Belt"/Mid-West have shifted to bring labour costs down. Indeed for the most part labour unions attempts to force issues by going on strike have gone no where. Some Caterpillar workers recently had to throw in the towel and return to work from a strike out of the very real fear the company would simply pack up their plant and move house.
As Obamacare takes hold and businesses either see a reduction in their employee healthcare costs, or simply shift them all together to the public (via paying employees a lump sum to go out and find their own insurance), that will bring the cost of production down, this should in theory help manufacturing.
arbilab
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Yes m'lady
Raise expectations in third-world countries and costs go up just like they did in Detroit over time. Shippers came to want their cut of what US corps were making off 12yo slave girls in China. Corps are also discovering the potential costs of passing off shoddy goods, as in the subject of this thread.
I think most knew the 00's model was not sustainable, even those who fabricated it. They just wanted to grab and go. Many (like me) saw it coming before we had to live through it and find out the hard way. But "the vision thing" isn't a big seller in the halls of power. See "grab and go" above.
Raise expectations in third-world countries and costs go up just like they did in Detroit over time. Shippers came to want their cut of what US corps were making off 12yo slave girls in China. Corps are also discovering the potential costs of passing off shoddy goods, as in the subject of this thread.
I think most knew the 00's model was not sustainable, even those who fabricated it. They just wanted to grab and go. Many (like me) saw it coming before we had to live through it and find out the hard way. But "the vision thing" isn't a big seller in the halls of power. See "grab and go" above.
whirlcool
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When Jeff Immelt was interviewed by 60 Minutes this spring they asked him about moving jobs to Brazil from the US in the GE Jet Engine division. I researched this a little more and what they are doing is servicing those engines in Brasil rather then building them there. And it's only for one engine, the one us on the 787 which is problematic on it's own.
60% of GE's income comes from areas other than the USA. And GE only has 133,000 employees in the US, kind of low considering how large a company it is.
As we know GE is trying to bring jobs back to Appliance Park, but what kind of jobs are those? The ones that pay $11.00 per hour with no benefits?
60% of GE's income comes from areas other than the USA. And GE only has 133,000 employees in the US, kind of low considering how large a company it is.
As we know GE is trying to bring jobs back to Appliance Park, but what kind of jobs are those? The ones that pay $11.00 per hour with no benefits?
777-have ridden on these-typically flights from Wash DC Dulles to Denver or Chicago to catch a flight from Dencer or Chicago to Rapid City,S Dak.The 777 is a very nice plane-did talk to some pilots as I was getting off-had time that day.They preferred "driving" the 777 as opposed to the 747.They felt the 777 had better takeoff ability.And they mentioned that it could operate on one engine.didn't know who built the engines. And one of the 777 I flew on was brand new-had that "new" smell like a new car.So,GE must build the motors for these-or if you were an aircraft purchaser-could you choose another brand engine.Guess with buying planes you can have your choice of engine builder-kinda like with trucks and some tractors.Yes,with turbine engines of all sorts failures do happen-becuase of the high speeds and temps-power plants aren't immune,either-their turbines made be GE or Westinghouse.These are larger than jet engine turbines-run from steam flowing thru them-high pressure and low pressure sections-reheat-med pressure section in fossil fuel steam turbines(this is what makes them so efficient--why power companines want to stay with fossil fuels) Nuclear fuels-the steam system doesn't use reheat.so the efficiency will be slightly less.and these turbines spin generators that have rotors weighing 100-200 tons! and they are spun at 1800,3600 RPM.Both rotors and turbines have "spin sploded" in power plants-can happen when the generator suddenly experiences a "no load" situation-becuase of OL-and overspeeds before the steam throttle closes.When a gen rotor spin splodes-takes out the stator section,too.So both have to be repaired-rewound.
remember there was a large Westinghouse generator production plant in Pensecola Fla,closed a long time ago.Don't know where its operations were transferred to.Now for central power plants-many companies specialize in rebuilding the turbines and generators-GE and Westinghouse made the majority of them.
remember there was a large Westinghouse generator production plant in Pensecola Fla,closed a long time ago.Don't know where its operations were transferred to.Now for central power plants-many companies specialize in rebuilding the turbines and generators-GE and Westinghouse made the majority of them.
Westinghouse Pensacola
It was consolidated with their operations in Charlotte, N.C. in 1997. Now owned by Siemens.
http://www.energy.siemens.com/us/en/charlotte/about-charlotte.htm
It was consolidated with their operations in Charlotte, N.C. in 1997. Now owned by Siemens.
http://www.energy.siemens.com/us/en/charlotte/about-charlotte.htm
Oh yes,Many of Westinghouses former operations now taken over by Seimens.Makes sense.there is a "Seimens" circuit breaker factory outside of Raleigh NC.
