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I too have heard very poor comments about GE's HE machine. From what videos I've seen, it does use the recirculating spray for most of the cycle while agitating, but the clothes really just sort of jive left and right without seeming to disappear to the bottom.

I have been pleasantly surprised at how well the Bravos XL has performed in the two weeks I've had it. So long as you make sure nothing is covering the center hub of the agitator, and you select a cycle that matches what you're washing, everything comes out perfectly clean with no tangles. It seems to do fine with a normal rinse (NOT a spray rinse. I will never trust spray rinsing to completely flush my clothes clean), but to ensure my sanity I've been using the extra rinse and Fabric Softener options for every load even if I don't use a softener. It's interesting that it always flushes the softener dispenser with hot water, which I find to be a nice feature.

I agree with the above statement about not using the Normal cycle. Despite the 54 minute count on the display at the start of the load, it seems like there just isn't enough wash time, even with increasing the soil level. Thankfully there are also the PowerWash and Heavy Duty cycles, both of which use the recirculating spray often and include a few soak periods. The rinses for these cycles seem to use a little more water as well.

I've also learned that the rollover and performance is much much better when the machine has a FULL load. The clothes bloom like they are supposed to, but still, nothing tangles.

I think my mind is still trying to find faults with it, but I do think honestly that Whirlpool has a good machine when it comes to their Fisher&Paykel designed washers.
 
GE washer cycle guide

The description for the dark colors on GE model GTWS8650dws says "for non-colorfast cottons and blends and items labeled cold wash". Provides normal wash and medium speed spin. I don't understand how the medium speed spin will jettison water out of sturdy cottons if the dark colors cycle is considered a sturdy cottons cycle. I have very heavy darks and I don't understand why the normal/light colors jeans and especially dark color cycles have it set to normal wash action and medium spin speed. I could understand if they set the spin speed to high like the whites cycle. I understand they change the temperature.
Also, what is the difference between the dark colors cycle and the delicates cycle. I understand they both use cold water. Anybody know the spin speed for the dark colors cycle. All I know is that it is set to medium speed spin. That's it. I can understand the normal wash part. The cycle descriptions are vague. What drive system does it have. I also want to know about the suspension system. The use and care manual for the GTWS8650dws is vague when describing cycles. Also, does the matching dryer do that thumping noise when you first start it like the lg and whirlpools do? I can't stand how manufacturers make their manuals so vague.
 
test run of GE HE top loader

I remember one time, I was at Appliance Associates one day and saw the new GE HE top load washer. One of the co-workers, Kirk Rivas hooked one up for me. He was actually interested in how it works as I was. I set the washer on the Dark Colors cycle and compared the normal soil level to the extra heavy soil level. I was expecting extra heavy to be very aggressive. I didn't expect it to be very weak. Is the dark colors cycle a sturdy cottons cycle or do I have to change the temperature for the normal cycle? How many sturdy cottons cycles are there? How tough are these washers built?
 
My thoughts....

All this makes me laugh....these machines makes me laugh...
These HE toploaders are not even washers....LOL
If you're concerned with water etc, then get a front loader, the only kind of lower water machine that can potentially make possible that something MAY get clean.

User's fault?
Please....did you see them?

Today the only good traditional agitator toploader is the Speed Queen, they really cleans laundry like traditional washers do and like a washer is supposed to, but they also use the water agitator washers are meant-to. to do their job "as it should be.....
That's it..

I'll never understand how some people decide to go top-load for a low water/ energy/eco whatever (I don't like the use of the US "HE" selling stratagem word ) machine...i mean top load with weird settings such as wash plates whatever.
I don't make this question to manufacturers as for them every new BS is a new thing to claim fantastic but total made up things about and so to sell you something.....

If its a matter if loading on the top, H axis toploader are around since ages, yet they now have to vomit these obscene machines with obscene nonsense ways to do on the US market....ahhh the money they make...not an H axis toploader yet, just the staber with that nonsense exagonal tub....
They came in all sizes and shapes....why can't they just make something like these for "low water toploaders" and thats it?


But that's my opinion.
[this post was last edited: 12/6/2014-12:02]
 
GE smart dispense top loader cycle settings

I was told through email from GE that the dark colors cycle is designed to clean sturdy cottons. I don't know why they have the normal/light colors, jeans and dark colors cycles set to medium speed spin. How fast does medium speed spin on GE washer model GTWS8650dws go?
 
Jerome, Sorry but I really dont think all the members here can really help you with technical things you would like to know, as it seems nobody here has one or knows alot about them. Going direct to GE is your best bet to try to pry the info you want from them it seems from your posts. Good luck. I gave away to a tenant a basic Filter Flo and it is still going strong after more than 35 years with just 1 pump replacement.
 
The tub is suspended by four suspension rods held by metal brackets - like most of the other HE models out there. This is a DirectDrive washer. The one and only thing the service manual says about the cycles is that Colors and Whites have the greatest wash intensity.

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Whirlpool

You might be better off looking at the new whirlpool cabrio. Their what & how logic would make more sense with what you are trying to accomplish.

Malcolm
 
I agree with Wayupnorth...

Honestly, I think you are trying to find sense and logic in a situation that simply doesn't make any sense and is illogical.

I inherited one of these GE machines. It used almost no water and all clothes had to be washed twice. Also, I noticed little difference among the cycles; some just swished a bit longer than others. There was almost no turnover

I also noticed contradictions: The machine supposedly sensed each load and added the appropriate amount of water. Yet the manual for repairmen clearly stated that fill was on a timer and that low water pressure and clogged filter screens in the inlet hoses could cause an insufficient amount of water to be used.

I gave up and got myself a mid-90's Maytag. I really think you should stop making yourself nuts trying to get answers that don't exist. If you want a top-loader, get a Speed Queen, a Cabrio, or go vintage. Otherwise, get a front loader.

Jim
 
I agree as well. I wouldn't take a GE appliance if it were brought in wrapped in gold free of charge, unless of course it was a pre-'94 FilterFlo in mint condition. GE has been hanging by strings for years in regards to the quality and design of their products, and who's to say what they'll become once Electrolux begins making changes of their own.

The Cabrio/Bravos/Oasis machine, along with its Fisher&Paykel cousin, are the best TL low-water use washers in my opinion, and either a Speed Queen, an older TL, or the new generation Whirlpool agitator machines are all great traditional washers.
 
Something tells me...

So you were saying that the darks and normal/lightcolors as well as the jeans and whites cycles have about the same actions on GTWS8650dws. If so, how powerful is it. I have read consumer reviews saying that it cleaned the dickens out of their clothes. What exactly are you saying?
 
"What exactly are you saying..."  Don't forget you are reading posts from the internet.  :-)

 

 When I bought a PFWS4600LWW (A GE front load machine that is out of production) I went online and got the service manual.  In there I found more detailed explanation of what to expect.  Perhaps the service manual for the 8650 is the same?  Call GE and ask where you can obtain that manual or do an online search.

 

 
 
The line you are looking at seems pretty decent. I don't think I would buy a top load HE washer that didn't have some sort of recirculating pump to spray the clothes with cleaning solution.
 

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