Got a Maytag wringer today
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Wringer Rolls Will Not Operate - Motor Runs
There are several causes listed in my copy of service manual; am too knackered to type the thing out.
But as have said the service manual for Maytag wringer washer can be found in the library and is worth having in any case.
There are several causes listed in my copy of service manual; am too knackered to type the thing out.
But as have said the service manual for Maytag wringer washer can be found in the library and is worth having in any case.
tarantulae
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Ken,
I just got a maytag wringer washer yesterday off craigslist and had similar issues.
At first the motor only hummed, and was stalled. I eventually lifted the wringer head and it was able to turn, and the agitator worked, so i realized the wringers were stuck. I released the tension on them, and put it back in the post. With the wringer rotation unlocked, the motor could turn, i let it turn like that and provided slight resistance to it until the wringer started turning. Then I was able to lock it in a position and it still turned. I discovered that my wringer is stuck turning in one direction, changing the lever on top doesn't change the wringer rotation or stop it.
I am in the process of tearing down the wringer gearbox, the gears were covered in gritty old grease and most of the grease was sitting in a nearly solid pancake at the bottom of the gearbox. I've emailed bruce for his information and pictures, and plan to take my own as well to offer for help.
Its too bad there isn't a free copy of owners manuals or service manuals anywhere.
I just got a maytag wringer washer yesterday off craigslist and had similar issues.
At first the motor only hummed, and was stalled. I eventually lifted the wringer head and it was able to turn, and the agitator worked, so i realized the wringers were stuck. I released the tension on them, and put it back in the post. With the wringer rotation unlocked, the motor could turn, i let it turn like that and provided slight resistance to it until the wringer started turning. Then I was able to lock it in a position and it still turned. I discovered that my wringer is stuck turning in one direction, changing the lever on top doesn't change the wringer rotation or stop it.
I am in the process of tearing down the wringer gearbox, the gears were covered in gritty old grease and most of the grease was sitting in a nearly solid pancake at the bottom of the gearbox. I've emailed bruce for his information and pictures, and plan to take my own as well to offer for help.
Its too bad there isn't a free copy of owners manuals or service manuals anywhere.
Free? No, but our generous webmaster provides a copy of Maytag winger service manual at a very reasonable rate. Sometimes you just have to loosen the mousetrap and pay for something.
Have only the one Maytag conventional washer, but have opened my purse for at least three service/parts manual and one owner's guide.
Maytag Electric and Gas Wringer Washer Service Manual
Maytag Electric and Gas Wringer Washer Service Manual
www.automatice.org
tarantulae
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Its a digital copy. The only cost is the data to send. It could even be uploaded to a file sharing site if the bandwidth costs are too much. What benefit is gained by witholding the information?
Ok, am offically out.
The dealer passes.
The dealer passes.
Duncan
Thanks for the info. When you placed the wringer control lever in the unlocked position with the motor running did the whole wringer assembly want to spin? I took the wringer assembly off yesterday and planned to open it today but didn't get around to it. Please post your pics and info here and also those from Bruce if you get them from him.
Robert (our webmaster) charges for the manuals and other documents available here to offset his time and expense to scan every page of a document, which can be substantial, provided to him from other members and add to the library. The money also goes to offset the expense to operate this site. Just as the fee to become an upgraded member does.
Thanks for the info. When you placed the wringer control lever in the unlocked position with the motor running did the whole wringer assembly want to spin? I took the wringer assembly off yesterday and planned to open it today but didn't get around to it. Please post your pics and info here and also those from Bruce if you get them from him.
Robert (our webmaster) charges for the manuals and other documents available here to offset his time and expense to scan every page of a document, which can be substantial, provided to him from other members and add to the library. The money also goes to offset the expense to operate this site. Just as the fee to become an upgraded member does.
Duncan:
I don't know for *sure* what the reasons to charge for the digital copy are, so I will answer as if someone asked me for my reasons.
Like everyone else, I only have 24 hours a day. My time is valuable, not free.
And if you have a collector's item, which I'm sure this owner's manual is, one has to take a lot of car in order to preserve the value of the item when digitizing it.
If you have *any* experience with scanning documents at all, you will probably agree that scanning the documents takes time and is work. Then you need to correct/photoshop the digital copy to make sure everything is clear as it's supposed to be. If I'm not mistaken, Robert then runs the documents thru OCR to make the digital copies more useful, and the items easier to search for locate.
Maybe there's someone out there that is completely bored to tears and would welcome doing all that work for free.
Me, I find myself feeling super grateful that for less than 20 bucks I can get my hands on the items immediately, most of them cost less than 10. I waste more money than that on coffee.
Have fun,
-- Paulo.
I don't know for *sure* what the reasons to charge for the digital copy are, so I will answer as if someone asked me for my reasons.
Like everyone else, I only have 24 hours a day. My time is valuable, not free.
And if you have a collector's item, which I'm sure this owner's manual is, one has to take a lot of car in order to preserve the value of the item when digitizing it.
If you have *any* experience with scanning documents at all, you will probably agree that scanning the documents takes time and is work. Then you need to correct/photoshop the digital copy to make sure everything is clear as it's supposed to be. If I'm not mistaken, Robert then runs the documents thru OCR to make the digital copies more useful, and the items easier to search for locate.
Maybe there's someone out there that is completely bored to tears and would welcome doing all that work for free.
Me, I find myself feeling super grateful that for less than 20 bucks I can get my hands on the items immediately, most of them cost less than 10. I waste more money than that on coffee.
Have fun,
-- Paulo.
tarantulae
Active member
Ken,
Yes, when unlocked the arm wanted to spin around the entire assembly. The wringers were stuck and instead it would spin the arm. I provided small amounts of resistance to the arm (not enough to stall the motor, but enough to make it try to turn the gears) the wringer eventually started to turn and I was able to lock the index and have them turn. They are stuck turning one way and I am in the process of cleaning the gearbox out and trying to get them fully functional again. Still no word from Bruce. Photos 4 and 5 in my post here are of the wringer gear and the wringer gearbox. http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?71246_4
Everyone else, thanks for the explanations of the manuals. My day job is in IT, so I work with a lot of wiki-style sites. I had an old motorcycle site which had a wiki for repairs and fixes, which was free to access, people freely contributed to it and such, just not sure why we don't have something like that here. I'll think about it if I get stuck on something I can't figure out how to take apart. Thankfully these are relatively simple machines.
Yes, when unlocked the arm wanted to spin around the entire assembly. The wringers were stuck and instead it would spin the arm. I provided small amounts of resistance to the arm (not enough to stall the motor, but enough to make it try to turn the gears) the wringer eventually started to turn and I was able to lock the index and have them turn. They are stuck turning one way and I am in the process of cleaning the gearbox out and trying to get them fully functional again. Still no word from Bruce. Photos 4 and 5 in my post here are of the wringer gear and the wringer gearbox. http://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?71246_4
Everyone else, thanks for the explanations of the manuals. My day job is in IT, so I work with a lot of wiki-style sites. I had an old motorcycle site which had a wiki for repairs and fixes, which was free to access, people freely contributed to it and such, just not sure why we don't have something like that here. I'll think about it if I get stuck on something I can't figure out how to take apart. Thankfully these are relatively simple machines.
I bought my service manual from eBay and it wasn't expensive and very valuable hard paper copy to have on hand. It's cost was about the same as a trip to McDonalds and has saved me time in money to keep my old wringer going.
Trigger ring
May or may not be the problem but here a pic. Sorry for it being sideways
May or may not be the problem but here a pic. Sorry for it being sideways
tarantulae
Active member
That looks great Stan!
That looks like it is on the wringer side. I admitedly haven't looked at that side very much, as I assumed the clutch would be in the wringer head at the top of the post underneath the selection handle. Once I get some parts cleaner and have cleaned up the gears I'll check there.
That looks like it is on the wringer side. I admitedly haven't looked at that side very much, as I assumed the clutch would be in the wringer head at the top of the post underneath the selection handle. Once I get some parts cleaner and have cleaned up the gears I'll check there.
Ken
Here's some troubleshooting from the service manual. Hope this helps.
As you can see You need a manual dude. (Sorry it's sideways)
Let's us know how you make out.
Here's some troubleshooting from the service manual. Hope this helps.
As you can see You need a manual dude. (Sorry it's sideways)
Let's us know how you make out.
Ken
Any luck with your wringer/ wringer head?
Any luck with your wringer/ wringer head?
Manual
Mentions a slide key with regards to the selector, pinion ect
Im thinking your problem could be here.
You'd have to get the pin out of the selector, remove it, remove the head have a look inside. If it's there fix it and repack.
Just a guess.
Mentions a slide key with regards to the selector, pinion ect
Im thinking your problem could be here.
You'd have to get the pin out of the selector, remove it, remove the head have a look inside. If it's there fix it and repack.
Just a guess.
Got it open today
Didn't find any bad surprises. I was able to turn the horizontal gear/shaft that turns the lower roller by hand. It was a little stiff at first. After spraying it with some PB Blaster it turned much easier. The vertical shaft and gears looked okay. Was able to turn the gears by hand but were stiff. When I turned the gears the shaft didn't turn. Used a handle from a floor jack as it has notches in it which fit the lower end of the vertical shaft where it fits with the upper end of the vertical power shaft. The shaft and gears then turned. After turning the shaft with the handle I expected it would then turn when I turned the gears by hand but it didn't. I wonder if that's correct operation? You can see the old grease in the bottom of the housing. Need to clean it out and repack with new grease. Remember seeing in an old thread the spec for the amount of grease to use. Will have to find that again as I don't remember how much is needed.
Didn't find any bad surprises. I was able to turn the horizontal gear/shaft that turns the lower roller by hand. It was a little stiff at first. After spraying it with some PB Blaster it turned much easier. The vertical shaft and gears looked okay. Was able to turn the gears by hand but were stiff. When I turned the gears the shaft didn't turn. Used a handle from a floor jack as it has notches in it which fit the lower end of the vertical shaft where it fits with the upper end of the vertical power shaft. The shaft and gears then turned. After turning the shaft with the handle I expected it would then turn when I turned the gears by hand but it didn't. I wonder if that's correct operation? You can see the old grease in the bottom of the housing. Need to clean it out and repack with new grease. Remember seeing in an old thread the spec for the amount of grease to use. Will have to find that again as I don't remember how much is needed.
tarantulae
Active member
That looks pretty similar to my wringer gears. Mine was stuck turning in one direction no matter where the lever was set. Looks like yours is stuck in neutral.
The lever has a shaft that goes vertically the length of the wringer, and I think has cams that are supposed to engage the gears depending on which way you turn it. That part seems to get stuck once all the grease pools at the bottom. I haven't yet figured out how to get back there to clean it out, but if you stick your hand in you can feel the shaft as you turn the selector.
The lever has a shaft that goes vertically the length of the wringer, and I think has cams that are supposed to engage the gears depending on which way you turn it. That part seems to get stuck once all the grease pools at the bottom. I haven't yet figured out how to get back there to clean it out, but if you stick your hand in you can feel the shaft as you turn the selector.
