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Has anyone here had it? Just talked to my cousin who is recovering. She said ti was two weeks of hell. Came close to being hospitalized. She said her temp was at least 103, perhaps higher and the Dr. said her congestion was causing her to reinfect herself. She has no insurance and had out of pocket clinic bills of over $200, plus being out of work for 2 weeks really hurts.

Dr. told her to still get the flu shot, she may not be immune to the current strain. He said his office staff has had 3 sets of flu shots this year alone.

I'll be getting mine soon!
 
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Yes it is all over our area here in NW Arkansas. Last Friday my younget son wife that teachs 2nd grade had half her class out. On Sunday all 3 of their children had the 103 fever and they went to emergency room with them all were swabed and tested and had the H1N1. The kids are getting over it but Wednesday son and daughter-in-law came down and they are really hurting with fever and like Matt said lots of congestion.
 
I asked my doctor about it too and he said that regardless of vaccination and health status that influenza is not worse than the "standard" winter flu that we get every year. We have a free nationwide vaccination campaign started on October 15th but he advised me (as he said he does to all healthy people) not to do any kind of vaccination as it superfluous. In case one should get infected he should just behave like in a normal flu. No more no less.
 
I had it.....was off work for nearly 2 weeks.....not as bad as normal flu but really exhausting. I wasn't offered tamiflu as I have no underlying health problems
 
out of 5 children that got the shot, I have one that got sick within 2 hours, and has been out of school for 3 days, fever, diarrhea, vomiting, coughing, and just tired....I feel bad for her and wish I never had her get the shot, you have to wonder are they better off without it, she was healthy and fine before the shot, this shot was supposed to prevent this, but I guess not for everyone.....go figure
 
My brother is 40, rough and tumble. He said he does not remember ever being this sick. He complained of horrible pain in his legs, high fever. I know the MD gave him Tamiflu. Wallyworld wanted to delay him while they called the insurance re: his rx. He told me," I was so sick i just gave them the money, to get out of there". Knowing him i would say, it's AWFUL, if you come down with H1N1. alr2903
 
memo

Except for two telltale signs the symptoms are the same for regular flu. Should you develop a pink skin tone and start oinking uncontrollably, see your doctor immediatley :)
 
My sister near Toledo called this afternoon and said my 14 yr. old nephew has had it since Wed., and that my 28 yr. old nephew and his 2 yr. old daughter here in Cincinnati also came down with it this past week. All are quite ill.
 
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My 16 year old nephew just got over having this. He was tested and he definitely had H1N1. He was in bed for 5 days straight with vomiting, diarrehea, and a fever that ran anywhere from 101 to 103. he is better now but the MD told my sister-in-law that she should watch out for signs of pneumonia for the next week or so after the fever breaks.
Here in Festus they closed the entire R-7 school district because they had so many teachers and students out with it. It is pretty rampant around here, just hope I don't get it.
Mark
 
Very Sad

My prayers go out to all afflicted.

Maybe the US should reconsider the lack of sick leave for those in industries most at risk?
 
I think we have managed to get off lightly with it then.

I really feel for all those that have been sick, H1N1 or not, but I know of no-one that I know having been sick with it...and now that we are coming into summer, people catching it is less likely too

k
 
Dystonia

1) The disease is real, what she presents on the video is not a-typical.
2) The incidence in the general population is higher than one in a million, independent of flu shots.
3) There is no firm evidence that the flue shot caused this to occur
4) Even if the shot did cause this poor young woman's distress, we have an obligation to ourselves and those around us to stop this pandemic, I'm getting my shot this coming week and urge everyone here to do so, too.

Two things are noteworthy about this whole mess. One, the Egyptians, having killed off all their pigs, are now literally dying under their mountains of garbage. We have two allies in our fight against rodents
- pigs who compete with them for food (three major species on this planet eat sawdust: humans, pigs, rats)
- cats, who kill the mice and, within limits, the rats

Well, the idiots Islamists killed all the pigs and now they have all those delightful diseases being carried by the exploding rat and mouse population. Cats can't reproduce fast enough to keep up and the infrastructure in Egyptian cities was based on neighborhood pigs eating the trash.

The second thing I see, and this scares me, is all this pseudo-libertarian nonsense about not getting vaccinated, teh guberment pepeol ain't gonna tell me wha' to do. Yeah, right. Well, you and all your runny-nosed kids get sick, you overload the already compromised health system and now, people who through no fault of their own (like your poor kids, unlike you) did get sick (too young, too old, weakened immune system) are not getting the care they need because resources are diverted to you and your brood. And, of course, your kids promptly gave it to all the other kids in school. Hallo, exponential progressions, anyone?

I used to get upset about folks who don't wear helmets then expect emergency rooms to put them back together and welfare to support them after a motorcycle crash leaves them impaired for life. A friend of mine who is a trauma surgeon in New Zealand set me right: Wrong way of looking at them: These people are the 21st century equivalent of rolling human parts lockers. We can't clone yet, so their body parts are the next best thing...and, she adds wickedly (red-head), after all, we aren't using their brains...

Did I get out of bed in the wrong century or something?

Oh, here's a nice bit of news on the side. I had the swine flu in 1976. Turns out people who had my version are conferred less protection against this mutation than those who had it in the mid-1950's. Vintage is good...

http://www.dystonia.org.uk/about-dystonia-page7541.html
 
We have....

....a saying in our family every time we hear or see...

- cars doing burnouts
- skids done on purpose on wet roads
- bikers without protective gear on
- people without seatbelts on...

'Here come the organ doners'

...and I agree with your friend in NZ - thankfully, we don't use their brains.....
 
Hey, Ron,

Do you folks also have the 'Darwin Awards' concept down under? They're very big here in Europe, getting airplay every year on national TV.

Of course, Germans frequently win them, so I am not sure but what that is simple necessity.

I am troubled by all of this pre-modern thinking. You wouldn't believe the fight in my red-nex family over this. Except for my parents and me, nobody is getting either flu shot, it all being a government plan to interfere in their lives.

When I mentioned that the flu shot is not 100%, especially not in people in our parents' poor health, and maybe eliminating a vector of transmission like not vaccinating the great-grandkids would be a good idea, things exploded.

I know there are also idiots here in Europe and I just don't travel in their circles, but gosh - everytime I fly into Fort Collins (yes, Balloon Boy lives right down the street from my parents) I feel like I've left the 21st century far, far behind...along with the 20th and maybe the 19th...
 
Here, they are not suggesting that everyone gets vaccinated...though they are not saying not to either...

They are, however, suggesting that the young, elderly and expectant women should consider it along with healthcare workers...

As I mentioned before, we are lucky that we are pretty much out of flu season here...not that people don't get ill in summer, but it is less likely...

k
 
It's especially a problem

in the US because most Americans in public contact professions do not have sick leave. Their employers don't have to pay them when they stay home ill, they can also be fired for even calling in ill or going to the doctor.

This means we have lots of people who are in contact with food coming in sick and spreading the virus around.

They have no choice, America has no safety net for them. Same with kids who really are ill, not just the rash of teenagers and college kids who are 'down with the flu' out having fun - the parents of the truly ill kids often have neither the money for treatment (in many places like Fort Collins, no doctor accepts medicaid) and so their kids either end up going to school anyway or becoming even more ill because their folks can't get treatment.

Nothing has been learned from 1918, nothing.
 
I may have gotten the H1N1 back in April. Or it could have been a late season flu that wasn't covered by the seasonal flu shot I get every year. I missed two days' work, Thursday and Friday, and used the weekend to recuperate.

Like many I don't get much in the way of sick leave: one day a year - so I ate the income loss on that one. One thing Keven didn't mention, however, is that in California at least we have short term disability benefits. If one is ill for more than a week (I think) then one gets about 50% to 70% of one's regular pay - up to a limit - as disability pay.
 
Like many I don't get much in the way of sick leave: one

One day a year? It's time for me to stop complaining about 8 days, then. I know people who get more than 20 sick days a year and use every damn one of them year after year. Must be nice.......
 
Last time I had flu, or something flu-like, was 1984 or 1985 and I've rarely been ill with anything since then. I've never taken a flu shot. I'm somewhat considering it this time 'round, but local supplies have run out until further notice. If I start taking it now, do I have to continue every year to avoid susceptibility? Is the H1N1 immunization separate from a "regular" flu shot?
 
Yes, 2 separate immunizations this year. I am getting one next week when/if it becomes available. Panthera, you are so right presenteeism (sp). Is a very real problem, and probably exacerbated by today's economy. If you are sick you need to stay home. I posted my brothers story above and he is MUCH better. From what i understand this H1N1 is dx. by a nasal swab. It's kind of a kicker that you have to go IN to the drug store, and expose more people. would be well thought out if the docs could just dispense tamiflu, I dont know call it a epidemic kit or something. alr2903
 
alr2903,

I'm glad to hear he is much better.

1) No or minimal sick leave.
2) Fire at will
3) Social and medical infrastructure less well equipped for influenza complications than in 1918
4) Higher illiteracy than in 1918
5) Inadequate stockpiles of Tamiflu, inadequate support of manufacturers' reasonable requests for reasonably profitable vaccine production facilities

Guess what folks - every single one of these problems is a direct result of our choices since 1968. Every single one. We have nobody to blame but ourselves, directly.

We did it to ourselves, we have learned nothing. Thank goodness, this mutation is mild compared to what it could have been. Mother Nature, red of tooth and claw obviously does believe in science.
 
No, if you get a flu shot one year, it doesn't mean that you'll be more susceptible to the flu the next year if you don't get a shot the next year. In fact, you might be less susceptible because the flu shot composition is an educated guess about which strains will be prevalent each season. I believe three strains are usually included in the seasonal shot. There's always a chance that one of those strains was a miss for the current season but protects against the flu the next season. Arguing against this is the usually stated fact that the immunity only lasts one season. Not sure if that is because the immune response fades or because the educated guessing says that the strains in one season's shot are not expected to come back the following year.

On a related note, the meds are saying that if your were born in 1950 or earlier, chances are that you already have immunity to the H1N1 virus. People born later than that are less likely to have been exposed to it already.
 
Rich,

I've been hearing that too, those who had it in 1955 had a very similar form and should still be immune.
I wouldn't push my luck, tho'.
So much of what we 'know' about immunology and aging has been thrown completely out of the window the last few years.

Here in Europe, we have the three most likely strains and everything from the previous year, too in the shot. Historically, we guess better than the Americans do because our researchers are funded continuously and the knowledge transfer is more complete than in the US where, everytime the Republicans run things, funding for long-term teams is cut to the bone.

Our best (public) guess is that we are looking at tens of thousands of avoidable deaths due to the high level of herd immunization. That sounds good to me.

It has been fascinating to see the tenor of the 'ain't no-bahdy gonna tell me wha' to do and all the other mercury and aluminium and formaldehyde and coolant nonsense fade out of the blogs since last Thursday. When you actually see someone you love needlessly suffering because you were too damn stupid to have them immunized, 'cause it's all a guberment plot, then I guess you learn something. Too little, too late, but heh - no pain, no gain, right?
 
In case we run out of masks

during the N1H1 flue season here is a "homemade" masK you make yoursef.

It is even compatible with the wearing of glasses.
One thing though ----

MAKE SURE YOUR MASK IS CLEAN!!!!!!!!

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Not sure if Ihave had it or just a regular flu...

I am in my third week of flu.
At first I had a sore throat, went to pharmacist and asked for something for irritated sore throat. She said I was coming down with flu, " real flu not just a cold" as it was happening a lot in our area and started out that way.
I am generally pretty healthy and can usually shake off a cold in a day or two, or not get it at all.
The first week it really knocked me for six - I could hardly get out of bed for four days. To walk downstairs, have a shower exhausted me and I had to go back to bed.
After a week I phoned the doctor - was told no need to come in, the advice he was giving to every second person all day was bed rest, paracetamol (acetaminophen is US name?). After a week I was feeling much better, back to relatively normal activities but I can't seem to shake the dry sore throat, with nasty cough like a 2 pack a day smoker, and I have never smoked. Still fairly snotty too. If I'm not better in a few days I will go to the doc, but I doubt there is much they can do.
I have no idea if it is H1N1 but it is a nasty flu for sure.

News on the radio today is Australia is sending extra stock of the H1N1 vaccine to the USA as the US is desperately short of stock.

Chris
 

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