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Bryan71

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Looking on the Haier website I noticed they offer a 22 pound top loading washer and matching dryer. Anyone ever see these and or used them? Good machines? Rebadged? I know Lowes sells Haier and could probably order them through them.
 
I think it's pronounced Higher, because once I saw them use a slogan "Haier and Higher" on a web page. Clever of them, plus or minus the obvious potential for marijuana jokes.

They also make a line of portable TLs, from 3.3 lbs. capacity (that's a very compact unit, holds about one pair of jeans plus a shirt) up to 13.2 lbs. These are basically your standard Asian washers with pulsator disc at the bottom of the tub. Some of the middle of the range of these (6 - 8 lb.) have what appear to be mechanical sequence timers (so you can modify the cycle without having to learn to program a computer). (Danby makes an equivalent compact auto TL with mechanical controls, and with an American-style agitator.)

A couple of years ago there were some complaints going around on THS about Haier portable TL washers being too splashy ("washes your floor while you do the laundry":-) and having a couple of other QC problems, but since that time they've probably improved.

I would guess that the 22# rating on the TL you found, realistically means 16 - 18#, which is still pretty good. Generally for these machines, particularly the compact units, assume 60% to 80% of rated capacity and they'll work fine.
 
Several years ago, when you looked in one of the Haier agitator washers, it looked exactly like a Whirlpool without the newer agitator.

I have one of the 4 or 5 lb. machines that I thought my mom would use in her apartment, but she did not, although I used it a few times there for her. Anyway, I have it at home in the first floor bathroom which means that every room on the first floor has at least one apliance in it; so I have arrived at a new level of depravity, big deal. I hook it up to the bathroom sink faucet and am quite impressed at its washing, spinning and rinsing and spinning between wash and rinse. Instead of the long periods of swirling and tangling like the GE portables, this gives short bursts of impeller movement that are so effective that when it starts in the reverse direction, items on top in the center are immediately pulled under. John and I were talking about it and decided that if you were stuck with only a GE combo, having something like this or a twin tub or one of those suicidal spinners to give you good water extraction would make laundry a pretty manageable, albeit manual, situation.

I remember from THS that the Haier front load washers had an unfortunate way of dying after a short period of use as did some of the countertop dishwashers.
 
I saw the 22LBS TL at ABC Warehouse one time and it has a DA agitator, looks the exact same as a DD Whirlpool, but in a gray color. The drum is chrome and the suspension feels similar to that of a F&P.
 
Melee, Mee-lay, Mi-elle

Have heard all these pronunciations and then some, but the best comment I've heard so far was from a Miele sales rep; if you're unsure how to say it, just think of Aussie girls and it all becomes clear... Miele rhymes with Sheila.

Had to laugh when he told me that one, but sure enough, it's about right!

Kirk
 
Wow, I have been pronouncing Miele all wrong, lol, I always pronounced it mee-lay. But, if we are talking brand pronunciations, how about Huebsch? When I was younger I always pronounced it Huus-beck. THAT was obviously wrong, lol!
 
I've read somewhere that it's pronounced Hibsch... never really heard it out loud though so I'm not too sure!

jon
 
It was Mee-Lay

Up until recently whenever I heard the word Miele it was pronounced Mee-Lay.

It seems to have been in the last couple of years that the way I'm hearing it pronounced has changed, and now all you hear is Mea-luh.
 
That could be the aussie way of speaking though.

I like the way to remember pronounciation.

Miele is Sheila. :)

As an FYI a Sheila is actually a female Kangaroo :)

In slang terms its also a term to describe a woman. If it was used, it tends to be in a positive sense. IE Tracey is a top sheila :)
 
Tom, interesting that your unit uses a short intermittent impeller cycle. Danby does likewise, and if I recall correctly, Whirlpool and a couple of other compacts do also; all of these use American-style agitators on an intermittent cycle. This can be very mechanically simple: just a motor that can be reversed, and a pulley to the impeller or agitator.

The difference between "normal" and "gentle" is the number of revolutions before it pauses; on the Danby TT it's 1 left and 3/4 right for gentle, and 2 left and 1 right for normal. This doesn't seem like much of a difference but it really is; the "normal" cycle is really vigorous, with the same "pull the clothes under" action you saw on the Haier. This kind of action also saves electricity because the motor is only "on" for half the time (i.e. off during the pauses) and the system takes advantage of the motion of the water during the pauses.

Have you bothered to check the difference in rotation periods (how many revolutions each way) between the normal and gentle cycles on the Haier? And how does it do with blue jeans (which are a difficult load for compacts since the stiff fabric wants more space to move around in)?
 
Haier is higher

''Higher'' is the correct way to say Haier as I have just been commuicating with their Sydney office, funny I always thought Miele was pronounced ''Me-Lay''hhhmmmm that could be an interesting pick-up line as in ''me needs lay''sorry about that L.O.L. L.O.L. L.O.L.!!!!!
 
And if you said, "I just got Haier," your friends might ask for a few puffs.

And if you were gay and told your boyfriend "I like Kenmore," he might think you wanted to break up with him and go out with another guy.

That's about all for the PG-rated ones:-)
 
Designgeek: this small machine with only the impeller at the bottom of the tub does not have any sort of slower speed for delicates. I guess you would just set it for a shorter wash period, or interrupt the wash for a soak period to wash delicates. There is only one spin speed also. I don't believe this would wash more than one pair of jeans and it would no doubt have problems balancing one pair to spin.
 
washing delicates

Tom,
You are correct about only one spin speed on some compacts,my T.T. only spins at one speed and the only difference in the wash actions on ''Standard and ''Intensive'' are a 4 second pause on standard and no pause on intensive wash.
In regards to my delicates i.e. woollen pullovers and the like,I do all my normal loads first and when they are done,and the washtub is ready to be drained out, I put the plug in the laundry sink and simply put the drain hose in the sink and pump some of the last wash water in the sink and just handwash really delicates, I wring them out by hand put them in the spinner saturate with clean water for a minute or so and then just spin for 30-60 seconds only and lay them flat.
This method works okay on T.T.'s but I am not sure if you can do it on an automatic washer.
Cheers.
Steve.
P.S.,
Designgeek,
Have you heard the one about the 2 cannibals named Kelvin and Mary?, well mary went missing for a long time and the police came to the conclusion that Kelvinator.
Oh God I need help ,Nurse pleae bring me a blanket and a cup of tea.
 

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