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in what way do you mean the motor is "on it's way out?"

If anything most motor problems seem to be brush failure, you wouldn't need a new motor, just a nice cheap set of brushes. I cringe at the thought of the number of machines which are trashed becasue "the drum stops going round properly", or "sparks are coming out of the motor" or "it started making a crackling noise" when I daresay 9 times out of 10 a new set of brushes would have had it up and running again no problem.

So if you can describe the symptoms of the problem, that may help find an explanation which would not require a whole new motor.

Matt
 
hi ariston4life

I normally always advise repair but this is a Haier!, the most rubbish machine on the market. Get a new one, pay more and get a decent machine.
 
ok ok bash haier all you like but i have to be honest and say it is a good machine i mean i paid 279 for it and it does 6-7 washes a day everyday and its 15 months old and is still working with no repairs all it is is the motor is starting to sound a bit horse, so i was thinking of just ordering new brushes for it...anyone know which ones are suitable for it?
 
Hi Ariston4life,
you may not want to hear this but you are barking up the wrong tree on this one.
I have never replaced brushes to cure just a noisy motor fault, (and I have replaced thousands).

When you notice brushes are noisy it means they are very low and the drum will not agitate.

good luck anyway.
 
"15 months old and is still working with no repairs all it is is the motor is starting to sound a bit horse"

..and you think 15 months is a respectable life span for a washing machine motor? Washing machines are NOT cheap. Spending so much money on a domestic item, and I would at least expect 5 years out of it. My Grandparents have had their matching Hotpoint set since 1981 with only the brushes replaced a few times on the washer and no repairs to the dryer and my aunt and 2 young cousins live with my gran. My aunt and uncles 1990 Logic is still in regular use in a house with 3 kids. We had a Zanussi Jetsystem for 11 years with no repairs until the bearings went. 15 months, IMO, is not on. A machine should not need a new motor after 15 months. Brushes, at a push, but not a whole new motor.
 
AquaCycle

sorry but your talking about older machines that were built to last such as old hotpoints and logics, however were in 2009 now machines are not built to last except the much loved on here Mieles no new hotpoint will never last as long as the old ones and same gos for new hoovers aswell, however im talking about my BOL HAIER( that is always being singled out as rubbish) all im saying is its not that bad considering it does 6-7 washes a day every week its out lived our beko anyway( now that was a piece of crap).
 
Miele, Bocsh, Zanussi, LG, Beko - all brands I'd sooner own than a Haier. A brand new Hotpoint SHOULD still last longer than 15 months. Even an Indesit will go 2 years without a repair.
 
but thats the thing the machine is still working perfect the motor just sounds a little off and if i had to choose between haier and beko id go for haier cause beko are crap!
 
Actually, I've found Beko to be rather reliable. I had one when I first moved into my flat and that's now been donated to my friend who has 2 children and who's partner works on a building site. It's ALWAYS on and it's doing just fine. It washes efficiently, good water levels, rinses well, spins well and is not particulaly noisey. My only issue with it, is it takes bleedin' ages but this can be resolved using the quick wash button. Also, my work colleague has had a Beko for going on 3 years and it's fine, my friends parents have one and theirs is fine - thats about 2 or 3 years old now. I've heard nothing but good things about them and having lived with one, can safely say, it's the best machine to buy on a budget.
 
well my beko was complete rubbish 4 breakdowns in 6 months thats not very reliable is it and ours was on the same amount of times the haier is on and the haier is still going perfect where as the beko clapped out after 6 months... and it wasnt just bad luck with my one as my auntie had a similar model 1 month old and needed a new PCB thats not very reliable is it.
all in all id sooner go for HAIER/BUSH machines than any beko on the market.
 
now dont get me wrong i do like beko, my first tv was a beko and is still working seven years on with no repairs and my current tv is a beko thats coming up on 6 years now and that working perfect aswell and we have a beko fridge aswell and that to works great so im not dissing beko as a whole just the washing machines thats the only product by beko that ive had trouble with.
 
Just a thought

The armature in my Mum's Whirlpool is worn, it now sounds like a chainsaw every time it starts to tumble. it's been like this for a good 18 months now, it may sound horrible but at the end of the day it still washes the clothes.

Since you're getting that Hotpoint soon I seriously wouldn't bother getting a new motor, especially when the machine is still operational and just "sounds a bit rough".

It's the electronics in Haier's which are disgraceful, and make them the most unreliable machines on the market, mechanically they could be worse.

Matt
 
exactly my point the machine does still work but when i do get the hotpoint ill be giving the haier to my nana so i want to sort the motor out so its not as loud.
 
The only real problem is that even if the motor is available (parts seem non-existant on the net, can't imagine them having a huge service department) it will probably cost almost as much as the machine did new, rendering repair pointless.

If it's anything like an Indesit company machine the motor will be about 75% of what the machine cost new, on top of labour, it just isn't worthwhile. I would suspect Haier would charge very steeply for a new motor.
 
hi hoover1100

With regard to noisy motors, I used to see some of the old AEG washing machines with worn bearings on the motor but I have never seen a motor running with a noisy armature.
Only when the brushes are worn down to the armature do they get noisy, or if the armature is burnt out (it wont spin then anyway).

Have you taken the belt off and run the motor on your mums whirlpool? You may be supprised where the noise is coming from!

good luck
 
if it is a motor used on indesits as well ive seen then on ebay priced as little as £30 so its not to bad. mabey tomorrow ill take the motor out and get the model number and then search for it on google and see what i get.
 
Hi Bertrum

The noise seems to definately be coming from the motor, the obvious culprit would be the bearings, but those don't seem too bad, brushes would be another option, but there is no sparking from the motor and it dosen't struggle to turn the drum at all, I can't really imagine it going 18+ months on bad brushes either.

I came to the conclusion it must be the armature, just because I couldn't really think of anything else it could be, it quietens down once the machine has heated and when it's only doing a light load with a low water level. I guess motor bearings are definately a possibility, but I thought that was a very uncommon fault.

Matt
 
6-7 a day

Forgive me for pointing something out but why are you using a domestic washing machine to do 6-7 washes a day everyday of the week?
That level requires a heavy duty machine with higher weekly cycles factored into its motor bearings etc. Even 6 washes a day 7 days a week is 42 cycles a week or 2184 a year. An enourmous strain on a budget washer. A Whirlpool heavy duty light commercial machine is only guaranteed for 25 cycles a week. You need a second hand Miele little giant or something similar to do the job your asking of it.

Steve
 
Bertrum.....

My Zanussi FL1012 was doing the same thing that Hoover1100's Whirlpool seems to be doing, and whilst i can't 100% guarantee its cured it (as ive not used it much since repair), i just put a new belt on it.

I believe my FL couldve used one of three makes of motor, but it looks like its got an AEG motor in it, which makes Bertrums point about worn bearings on the motor particularly interesting.

Do you know if my machine couldve been fitted with one of the AEG motors susceptible to this, Bertrum?

Many thanks :)
 
Even in a house with 2 adults and 4 kids, we never did 6 - 7 washes a day. How many times a day do people in your house change clothes? Surely, in an average family home, at the end of the day you'd have a few school uniforms, some office wear, maybe a work uniform or 2? Surely thats 2/3 loads, tops? I know when I was younger, the washer was on pretty much daily but only with 1 or 2 loads, max.
 
well in our house theres 6 of use plus a dog a rabbit and a buggie the two girls are constantly changing cloths and we have a lot of washing to do its that simple and if the mother decideds to go on a cleaning rampage, like all the curtains and badcloths etc. the machine could be on nearly 10 times in one day.
 
...yes but surely even if you're doing a mad cleaup, you're not going to do it everyday. Think about it, if you spend a day doing all your washing - clothes, bedding, curtains, cusion overs, seat covers, dog bedding, towels...the same load of washing is not going to be their needing to be done again the next day. Surely, the next day, you're only going to have a 1 or 2 loads to do unless you have serious OCD and insist on washing everything daily. So if you do 6 washing loads in a day, you'd have empty baskets the next day. I also find it very hard to believe that you are able to create 6 loads of washing a day based on what time you would have to start doing the washing in order to have it complete by the time you go to bed. I mean, it's actually not possible unless you stay up all night doing washing. School uniforms and work clothes won't be ready to wash until dinner time - say 6pm by the time the whole family gets home. 6 washing loads at an hour each will take you through to midnight. I doubt that anyone, after a day at work/school/college would want to spend 6 hours doing washing.
 
and another thing...you said there's 6 of you. There was 6 of us when I was younger - Mum, Dad, Me, 2 brothers and my sister. You do realise that, based on how much washing you claim to do daily, you're saying you create a load EACH. Personally, I get up, I have my work clothes to wear and then I change when I get home. I wear a different shirt everyday and a different pair of work pants every 2 days. Jeans will last a few days because I only wear them for a few hours after work. I can probably make a pair of jeans last Monday - Friday providing I don't spill anything on them. So how many differnt sets of clothes do you wear in order to create a whole washing load EACH!? Surely, if you wear 1 t-shirt for 3 hours, it doesn't class as dirty and can probably be worn the next day for another few hours before it needs washing. How un-economical are you?
 
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