No, my parent's isn't a heat pump (they have these in their apartment). It's an a/c but it's just a resistance heater.
Heat Pump Frosting - Defrosting
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I've seen variations of these Zoneline units with a heat pump, however. Most I've seen in hotels though have electric heat like Bob said.
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It works much better than the ones at the econo lodge we where at last week..That was a GE Zone Line that was about 15 years old...This one is about 8 years old and is made by Amana LoL...
I just know they don't work very weel and have odd temp. fluctuations... This one is better than most though.. Its an amanna...
Oh well.. Adam and I are staying in an Extended stay america until he gets to move back into his apartment Febuary 1st (long story),scince i am cpmmuting back and forth.. so i am getting used to the dumb thing...
I just know they don't work very weel and have odd temp. fluctuations... This one is better than most though.. Its an amanna...
Oh well.. Adam and I are staying in an Extended stay america until he gets to move back into his apartment Febuary 1st (long story),scince i am cpmmuting back and forth.. so i am getting used to the dumb thing...
~and I don't think heat pumps could keep up with that load (or could they?).
Long Island (lower New York State) was at one time the northernmost ridge that was sensible heat-pump territory. Now ads say they go up to Maine.
~Typically found in a motel... Is it a heat pump or not?
If it souns like an A/C when heating (due to compressor running), it is a heat-pump. As was alluded to above, cheaper units and warmer climates genearlly have strip resistance heaters, only.
Long Island (lower New York State) was at one time the northernmost ridge that was sensible heat-pump territory. Now ads say they go up to Maine.
~Typically found in a motel... Is it a heat pump or not?
If it souns like an A/C when heating (due to compressor running), it is a heat-pump. As was alluded to above, cheaper units and warmer climates genearlly have strip resistance heaters, only.
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Ok its def. not a heat pump.. I doubt any one has turned on the heat in months... PHEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Burning smell like all get out.. I just shut if off..
I have heard mention of air-source heat pumps designed for very low temps. Ground-source might also could handle it.
From my experience, heat pumps are not a good choice in Pittsburgh. We had a Trane heat pump installed in 1988, when Duquesne Light offered discounts (turns out they just started the second Beaver Valley nuclear plant and had a glut of electricity). Duquesne light required that in order to get the electricity discounts the unit had to be adjusted to only switch to the gas furnace (in this part of the country many people have gas, even oil, furnaces with heat pumps rather than the electric elements) when it was about 40 degrees F. Our heat pump could not keep up when it was that cold and ran constantly and noisily, with almost a screaming sound of "help me, help me!". If it was a cold sunny day, it also had a hard time "making up it's mind" between the head pump and gas furnace so we heard all the mechanical switching around. When we had the furnace replaced 5 years ago the technician removed the "fossil fuel kit" and made the heat pump into a regular air conditioner with a gas furnace.
When weather was mildly cold the heat pump worked well. They don't heat as intensely as gas furnaces, which is less warm but I think this can be a benefit for seniors, as they do not dry out skin. This helped when my father was with us, as he was disabled and skin care was an issue. I would think that in a senior center or nursing home, heat pumps would be safer than radiators.
Oh, yes, the Trane did create quite a scene when it defrosted itself, the cloud it made looked like someone you would see in an 80s music video. Made some "alien spaceship" noises too.
Since I talked my mother into buying the heat pump I heard all about it when we started hearing all the noise it made - It's all my fault!
Regarding those Zone Line units in motels, I think Andy Rooney needs to do a segment about them. Even in very expensive hotels, those unit aim the conditioned air right up into the curtains and such units are not quiet. It would not surprise me at all if Donald Trump's hotels had Zone Line units.
When weather was mildly cold the heat pump worked well. They don't heat as intensely as gas furnaces, which is less warm but I think this can be a benefit for seniors, as they do not dry out skin. This helped when my father was with us, as he was disabled and skin care was an issue. I would think that in a senior center or nursing home, heat pumps would be safer than radiators.
Oh, yes, the Trane did create quite a scene when it defrosted itself, the cloud it made looked like someone you would see in an 80s music video. Made some "alien spaceship" noises too.
Since I talked my mother into buying the heat pump I heard all about it when we started hearing all the noise it made - It's all my fault!
Regarding those Zone Line units in motels, I think Andy Rooney needs to do a segment about them. Even in very expensive hotels, those unit aim the conditioned air right up into the curtains and such units are not quiet. It would not surprise me at all if Donald Trump's hotels had Zone Line units.
Ok its def. not a heat pump.. I doubt any one has turned on the heat in months...
If the thing is set to "MAX" and there is a large difference between the room temp and the deisred/set temp the electric elements will kick in to get the job done quick. As the temperature approaches within two or three degrees of the desired, THEN the Heat-pump will rumble to life....if it indeed has/is one.
Do'nt mind the smell, it's only dust, hair and air-borne skin cells carbonizing (burning).
If the thing is set to "MAX" and there is a large difference between the room temp and the deisred/set temp the electric elements will kick in to get the job done quick. As the temperature approaches within two or three degrees of the desired, THEN the Heat-pump will rumble to life....if it indeed has/is one.
Do'nt mind the smell, it's only dust, hair and air-borne skin cells carbonizing (burning).
I don't use the present heat pump-AC that I now have-big reason is the aux heat isn't connected.The former homeowner used a woodstove to heat with I don't use the wood heater-use a couple of electric ones instead.When its below freezing-my heat pump is ineffective.Not enough heat energy out there to make it worthwhile.The heat pump I have needs the aux heat as part of the defrost cycle-if it doesn't have that-the defrost action won't work-and your home becomes COLDER instead of warmer-remember in the defrost mode the unit is acting as an airconditioner.I would like to get at Trane unit in the future-the townhome in the DC area I lived in had a Trane system-was the best I ever used.Its heatpump was still heating even in below freezing weather and 2ft snow around the unit-I shoveled the snow away from it for more airflow.And could watch it defrost-when it did would kick on the aux heat(electric heat coils) for the defrost cycle.and if the temp outside got too cold for the heatpump-would automatically switch on the aux heat elements.That unit never got "frosted" like the one in the picture.The one I have now would get so frosted I had to shut it down.mine works as a great airconditioner in the summer.
Heat pumps have been around a long time, of course, but have never been too popular here because of the colder temps and utility costs. Now that natural gas and electric have come more in line with one another, heat pumps are getting more commonly seen in the part of the country too.
Love the pics - I didn't know they needed to defrost!
Love the pics - I didn't know they needed to defrost!
The house we moved into 9/61, the street had been built and was Houston's Parade of Home spring of 1961. So, many of the houses offered state of the art things. The house across the street (ya know, the one with the sea foam westy kitchen; the frog-eyed dryer and the Westy slant-front that matched the recent pink one bought [L100?} (later replaced with the 1964 Monkey Wards washer), well, that house was a gold medallion house and it came with a heat pump,. something very new back then. It lasted for years and the owners swore by it. I think it was replaced with another heat pump too.
There is no such thing as *cold" . *Cold* is the absenc
~I didn't know they needed to defrost!
Heat flows from more to less. In order to get the heat in the oudoor air into the coil, it must be cooler than the ambient air! Aparently it is below freezing point!
Heat is transfered, water-vapor is not, just like in a home fridge!
Ditto summer cooling, if the ambient outdoor air, which is used to remove the heat from the outdoor coil, is not cooler than the outddor coil, the A/C stops working.
~I didn't know they needed to defrost!
Heat flows from more to less. In order to get the heat in the oudoor air into the coil, it must be cooler than the ambient air! Aparently it is below freezing point!
Heat is transfered, water-vapor is not, just like in a home fridge!
Ditto summer cooling, if the ambient outdoor air, which is used to remove the heat from the outdoor coil, is not cooler than the outddor coil, the A/C stops working.
Frosty in CT
A few images of frosted heat pumps in the neighborhood...
First heat pump it a Payne.
A few images of frosted heat pumps in the neighborhood...
First heat pump it a Payne.
Second heat pump
A Trane
A Trane
The third one is a
Carrier
Carrier
Protection
These heat pumps are all protected from the elements via an overhead deck. I guess they would be a bit more frosty if they were exposed to the elements directly.
Woke up to about 1" of snow here in Ct....our first 'significant' snowfall(Ha Ha) of the season.
My Carrier is hardly frosted and just chugging away keeping the house at a warm 68 degrees.
These heat pumps are all protected from the elements via an overhead deck. I guess they would be a bit more frosty if they were exposed to the elements directly.
Woke up to about 1" of snow here in Ct....our first 'significant' snowfall(Ha Ha) of the season.
My Carrier is hardly frosted and just chugging away keeping the house at a warm 68 degrees.
Your unit looks bigger. Just a better close-up?
Your unit looks bigger. Just a better close-up?
Uh no...actually it is bigger!
Uh no...actually it is bigger!
oh right, you mentioned that you have a heat-pump heated/cooled finished basement your neightbors don't.
The fools are on straight resistance!
The fools are on straight resistance!
Does Heat Pump Frosting go with Heat Pump Cake?
I think there is way too much frosting on this Unit.
Perhaps the defrost cycle is not working.
I think there is way too much frosting on this Unit.
Perhaps the defrost cycle is not working.
